Weird marriage - guy 21, girl 15

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t speak to the legality of it but I am from Eastern Europe and remember a lot of marriages in the 1990s where a 6 year difference is nothing. It wasn’t legal to marry before 18 but I knew couples who started dating when she was 14-16 and then got married when she was 18 and he would be like 25 or so by then. It was seen as a good thing, the girl is mature and successful blah blah.
FWIW the country had like 99% literacy rate so not exactly a shitehole.
I am not surprised if it’s acceptable in Hispanic culture as well. Just more traditional societies.
It’s probably not a great setup but also doesn’t make my blood boil you know? Some people aren’t going to develop much educationally anyway. Maybe it’s something that suits them.

I know that historically marrying girls off in their early teens was often done. But it doesn't mean it's right. It was convenient for patriarchies to have girls stay submissive and beholden to men, whether their father or their husband. So if society makes it look cool, what it means is that they're encouraging women to stay in that cycle.

I met my older husband at 19 and married him at 23, so I'm not against marrying young! But at least I knew what I was doing

It’s their community and their traditions so whatever imho
There will always be people on government benefits anyway
And many of these girls who tend to marry young and become mothers are not academically inclined so what else would they do with their lives?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No church, mosque, synagogue or temple would participate in an illegal marriage.

They actually do it all the time. Marriage is a religious ceremony before it’s a legal ceremony. You don’t have to actually file a marriage certificate. There are some that are religiously married but not legally. I’ve seen this with various demographics: Muslim and Hispanic immigrants, Hasidic Jews, Mormons and Amish.

[Anonymous]

I used to work as a case worker for multiple states on the east coast. Many of these girls/women pop out a bunch of kids and actually collect single mother benefits for all the kids despite being religiously married. Many of the women are trapped and find it difficult to escape their religious community because they have no education or money and the women in their circle discourage it and keep tabs on all the younger wives and their whereabouts. The youngest I saw was 13. Married to her rabbi. She escaped and divorced and ended up working as a social worker at our company. She was a lovely lady

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t speak to the legality of it but I am from Eastern Europe and remember a lot of marriages in the 1990s where a 6 year difference is nothing. It wasn’t legal to marry before 18 but I knew couples who started dating when she was 14-16 and then got married when she was 18 and he would be like 25 or so by then. It was seen as a good thing, the girl is mature and successful blah blah.
FWIW the country had like 99% literacy rate so not exactly a shitehole.
I am not surprised if it’s acceptable in Hispanic culture as well. Just more traditional societies.
It’s probably not a great setup but also doesn’t make my blood boil you know? Some people aren’t going to develop much educationally anyway. Maybe it’s something that suits them.

I know that historically marrying girls off in their early teens was often done. But it doesn't mean it's right. It was convenient for patriarchies to have girls stay submissive and beholden to men, whether their father or their husband. So if society makes it look cool, what it means is that they're encouraging women to stay in that cycle.

I met my older husband at 19 and married him at 23, so I'm not against marrying young! But at least I knew what I was doing

It’s their community and their traditions so whatever imho
There will always be people on government benefits anyway
And many of these girls who tend to marry young and become mothers are not academically inclined so what else would they do with their lives?

How would you know if they’re academically inclined or not? Most of them are taught to become wives and mothers and nothing else. They’re discouraged from continuing school past 8th or 9th grade. In New York State, this was a particular problem with Hasidics and Yemeni immigrants. In Pennsylvania, it was an issue with Latinos and Amish. I’m sure not much has changed. Child marriage is legal in all 50 states if it’s due to religious reasons and not formalized in writing/certificate.

[Anonymous]

She was a full blown woman.

High five to the lucky groom

I bet they were illegals too

They can make a bunch of new Democrat voters.

The new master plan by you Progressives for a permanent political majority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t speak to the legality of it but I am from Eastern Europe and remember a lot of marriages in the 1990s where a 6 year difference is nothing. It wasn’t legal to marry before 18 but I knew couples who started dating when she was 14-16 and then got married when she was 18 and he would be like 25 or so by then. It was seen as a good thing, the girl is mature and successful blah blah.
FWIW the country had like 99% literacy rate so not exactly a shitehole.
I am not surprised if it’s acceptable in Hispanic culture as well. Just more traditional societies.
It’s probably not a great setup but also doesn’t make my blood boil you know? Some people aren’t going to develop much educationally anyway. Maybe it’s something that suits them.

I know that historically marrying girls off in their early teens was often done. But it doesn't mean it's right. It was convenient for patriarchies to have girls stay submissive and beholden to men, whether their father or their husband. So if society makes it look cool, what it means is that they're encouraging women to stay in that cycle.

I met my older husband at 19 and married him at 23, so I'm not against marrying young! But at least I knew what I was doing

It’s their community and their traditions so whatever imho
There will always be people on government benefits anyway
And many of these girls who tend to marry young and become mothers are not academically inclined so what else would they do with their lives?

You are disgustingly racist.

THIS attitude is why many of those "people" are "on government benefits": child abuse and low/no expectations due to a child's race allows that child to be funneled down a one-way path to failure before the child is able to fully understand the situation and her options.

No one is looking out for this poor girl. Please call CPS, OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t speak to the legality of it but I am from Eastern Europe and remember a lot of marriages in the 1990s where a 6 year difference is nothing. It wasn’t legal to marry before 18 but I knew couples who started dating when she was 14-16 and then got married when she was 18 and he would be like 25 or so by then. It was seen as a good thing, the girl is mature and successful blah blah.
FWIW the country had like 99% literacy rate so not exactly a shitehole.
I am not surprised if it’s acceptable in Hispanic culture as well. Just more traditional societies.
It’s probably not a great setup but also doesn’t make my blood boil you know? Some people aren’t going to develop much educationally anyway. Maybe it’s something that suits them.

I know that historically marrying girls off in their early teens was often done. But it doesn't mean it's right. It was convenient for patriarchies to have girls stay submissive and beholden to men, whether their father or their husband. So if society makes it look cool, what it means is that they're encouraging women to stay in that cycle.

I met my older husband at 19 and married him at 23, so I'm not against marrying young! But at least I knew what I was doing

It’s their community and their traditions so whatever imho
There will always be people on government benefits anyway
And many of these girls who tend to marry young and become mothers are not academically inclined so what else would they do with their lives?

Islam allows the marriage of girls as young as age 9.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t speak to the legality of it but I am from Eastern Europe and remember a lot of marriages in the 1990s where a 6 year difference is nothing. It wasn’t legal to marry before 18 but I knew couples who started dating when she was 14-16 and then got married when she was 18 and he would be like 25 or so by then. It was seen as a good thing, the girl is mature and successful blah blah.
FWIW the country had like 99% literacy rate so not exactly a shitehole.
I am not surprised if it’s acceptable in Hispanic culture as well. Just more traditional societies.
It’s probably not a great setup but also doesn’t make my blood boil you know? Some people aren’t going to develop much educationally anyway. Maybe it’s something that suits them.

I know that historically marrying girls off in their early teens was often done. But it doesn't mean it's right. It was convenient for patriarchies to have girls stay submissive and beholden to men, whether their father or their husband. So if society makes it look cool, what it means is that they're encouraging women to stay in that cycle.

I met my older husband at 19 and married him at 23, so I'm not against marrying young! But at least I knew what I was doing

It’s their community and their traditions so whatever imho
There will always be people on government benefits anyway
And many of these girls who tend to marry young and become mothers are not academically inclined so what else would they do with their lives?

How would you know if they’re academically inclined or not? Most of them are taught to become wives and mothers and nothing else. They’re discouraged from continuing school past 8th or 9th grade. In New York State, this was a particular problem with Hasidics and Yemeni immigrants. In Pennsylvania, it was an issue with Latinos and Amish. I’m sure not much has changed. Child marriage is legal in all 50 states if it’s due to religious reasons and not formalized in writing/certificate.

I was talking about Latino girls who usually go to public schools. It’s pretty clear who is and isn’t into academics

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t speak to the legality of it but I am from Eastern Europe and remember a lot of marriages in the 1990s where a 6 year difference is nothing. It wasn’t legal to marry before 18 but I knew couples who started dating when she was 14-16 and then got married when she was 18 and he would be like 25 or so by then. It was seen as a good thing, the girl is mature and successful blah blah.
FWIW the country had like 99% literacy rate so not exactly a shitehole.
I am not surprised if it’s acceptable in Hispanic culture as well. Just more traditional societies.
It’s probably not a great setup but also doesn’t make my blood boil you know? Some people aren’t going to develop much educationally anyway. Maybe it’s something that suits them.

I know that historically marrying girls off in their early teens was often done. But it doesn't mean it's right. It was convenient for patriarchies to have girls stay submissive and beholden to men, whether their father or their husband. So if society makes it look cool, what it means is that they're encouraging women to stay in that cycle.

I met my older husband at 19 and married him at 23, so I'm not against marrying young! But at least I knew what I was doing

It’s their community and their traditions so whatever imho
There will always be people on government benefits anyway
And many of these girls who tend to marry young and become mothers are not academically inclined so what else would they do with their lives?

You are disgustingly racist.

THIS attitude is why many of those "people" are "on government benefits": child abuse and low/no expectations due to a child's race allows that child to be funneled down a one-way path to failure before the child is able to fully understand the situation and her options.

No one is looking out for this poor girl. Please call CPS, OP.

No it’s because their communities are backward

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t speak to the legality of it but I am from Eastern Europe and remember a lot of marriages in the 1990s where a 6 year difference is nothing. It wasn’t legal to marry before 18 but I knew couples who started dating when she was 14-16 and then got married when she was 18 and he would be like 25 or so by then. It was seen as a good thing, the girl is mature and successful blah blah.
FWIW the country had like 99% literacy rate so not exactly a shitehole.
I am not surprised if it’s acceptable in Hispanic culture as well. Just more traditional societies.
It’s probably not a great setup but also doesn’t make my blood boil you know? Some people aren’t going to develop much educationally anyway. Maybe it’s something that suits them.

I know that historically marrying girls off in their early teens was often done. But it doesn't mean it's right. It was convenient for patriarchies to have girls stay submissive and beholden to men, whether their father or their husband. So if society makes it look cool, what it means is that they're encouraging women to stay in that cycle.

I met my older husband at 19 and married him at 23, so I'm not against marrying young! But at least I knew what I was doing

It’s their community and their traditions so whatever imho
There will always be people on government benefits anyway
And many of these girls who tend to marry young and become mothers are not academically inclined so what else would they do with their lives?

Islam allows the marriage of girls as young as age 9.

We are talking about a 15 yo Latino girl. Islam, cults and such are a different topic

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t speak to the legality of it but I am from Eastern Europe and remember a lot of marriages in the 1990s where a 6 year difference is nothing. It wasn’t legal to marry before 18 but I knew couples who started dating when she was 14-16 and then got married when she was 18 and he would be like 25 or so by then. It was seen as a good thing, the girl is mature and successful blah blah.
FWIW the country had like 99% literacy rate so not exactly a shitehole.
I am not surprised if it’s acceptable in Hispanic culture as well. Just more traditional societies.
It’s probably not a great setup but also doesn’t make my blood boil you know? Some people aren’t going to develop much educationally anyway. Maybe it’s something that suits them.

I know that historically marrying girls off in their early teens was often done. But it doesn't mean it's right. It was convenient for patriarchies to have girls stay submissive and beholden to men, whether their father or their husband. So if society makes it look cool, what it means is that they're encouraging women to stay in that cycle.

I met my older husband at 19 and married him at 23, so I'm not against marrying young! But at least I knew what I was doing

Yes you’re Different!!!!! And Special!!!! Not like the others

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to call CPS.

This is illegal in PA. The 21 year old would/should be prosecuted for statutory rape and assault.

CPS will absolutely get involved if you report. And you should, before this girl ends up a young teen mom and her life ruined.

why her life would be ruined if she is a teen mom? May be that's all she always wanted. You would be surprised how common it is in hispanic community for girls to be close to 20 and have a baby.

Yea, no. I live in a predominantly Hispanic area with a lot of teen moms and their lives get pretty messed up. The men are usually abusive in some way, they get stuck in poverty and need government assistance for their entire lives.

Just because it’s common doesn’t mean it’s a good choice. Drinking and driving is common but it’s not a good choice.

How about some cultural sensitivity? /s

It's not important what the culture says if it is doing something to hard minors/kids. This is bad and should not happen regardless of what the culture says.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t speak to the legality of it but I am from Eastern Europe and remember a lot of marriages in the 1990s where a 6 year difference is nothing. It wasn’t legal to marry before 18 but I knew couples who started dating when she was 14-16 and then got married when she was 18 and he would be like 25 or so by then. It was seen as a good thing, the girl is mature and successful blah blah.
FWIW the country had like 99% literacy rate so not exactly a shitehole.
I am not surprised if it’s acceptable in Hispanic culture as well. Just more traditional societies.
It’s probably not a great setup but also doesn’t make my blood boil you know? Some people aren’t going to develop much educationally anyway. Maybe it’s something that suits them.

I know that historically marrying girls off in their early teens was often done. But it doesn't mean it's right. It was convenient for patriarchies to have girls stay submissive and beholden to men, whether their father or their husband. So if society makes it look cool, what it means is that they're encouraging women to stay in that cycle.

I met my older husband at 19 and married him at 23, so I'm not against marrying young! But at least I knew what I was doing

It’s their community and their traditions so whatever imho
There will always be people on government benefits anyway
And many of these girls who tend to marry young and become mothers are not academically inclined so what else would they do with their lives?

getting married so early should not be the way. They are getting pushed into this. WTH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t speak to the legality of it but I am from Eastern Europe and remember a lot of marriages in the 1990s where a 6 year difference is nothing. It wasn’t legal to marry before 18 but I knew couples who started dating when she was 14-16 and then got married when she was 18 and he would be like 25 or so by then. It was seen as a good thing, the girl is mature and successful blah blah.
FWIW the country had like 99% literacy rate so not exactly a shitehole.
I am not surprised if it’s acceptable in Hispanic culture as well. Just more traditional societies.
It’s probably not a great setup but also doesn’t make my blood boil you know? Some people aren’t going to develop much educationally anyway. Maybe it’s something that suits them.

I know that historically marrying girls off in their early teens was often done. But it doesn't mean it's right. It was convenient for patriarchies to have girls stay submissive and beholden to men, whether their father or their husband. So if society makes it look cool, what it means is that they're encouraging women to stay in that cycle.

I met my older husband at 19 and married him at 23, so I'm not against marrying young! But at least I knew what I was doing

It’s their community and their traditions so whatever imho
There will always be people on government benefits anyway
And many of these girls who tend to marry young and become mothers are not academically inclined so what else would they do with their lives?

You are disgustingly racist.

THIS attitude is why many of those "people" are "on government benefits": child abuse and low/no expectations due to a child's race allows that child to be funneled down a one-way path to failure before the child is able to fully understand the situation and her options.

No one is looking out for this poor girl. Please call CPS, OP.

I think religious marriages tend to lead to better outcomes than what you typically see with teen pregnancy. A teen mom being married to hopefully a decent guy is a very different situation than an unplanned pregnancy outside of marriage.

Also, I don’t think 15-year-olds are brain dead—at that age they generally know what’s going on and are basically young adults in a lot of ways. And, 21 doesn’t feel that much more mature than 15 in every case; maturity varies a lot by person.

[Anonymous]

They are not legally married if in Pennsylvania. “No marriage license may be issued if either of the applicants for a license is under 18 years of age.” https://www.palegis.us/statutes/consolidated/view-statute?txtType=HTM&ttl=23&div=0&chapter=13