Why aren’t the dads on GLPs?

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I know a lot of men that are on GLP-1s.

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Anonymous wrote:For older men (or women) who were not athletic younger or lifted weights consistently it is very difficult to build muscle in your 40s and beyond.

I am man who has never had serious weight issues but have gotten out of shape now and again. But as a father of teens I believe showing that eating healthy and exercising regularly sets a good example. Fat men should do whatever they need to be healthy just like fat women.

Getting ripped without the benefit of muscle memory may not be possible for most people, no matter what GLP or diet they pursue.

Which is why they are on testosterone. It's no secret that it's hard to put on muscle after 40, and it gets harder every year. It's fair to assume that if you see a ripped guy over 60, he's on T.

Getting prescribed testosterone takes an act of god from a US doctor. Even if you are point above the FDA chart no go. A point below? You get some microdose to get to the lowest level.

Testosterone is the most restricted prescription out there. Even more than opioids now.

No, a ripped guy in his 60s may have a testosterone prescription but not enough to get him jacked unless shady doctor willing to risk career.

This is where the whole peptide or anabolic steroids come in; or crazy discipline to look that - and I would say closer to 55 dudes have to be serious and not on pharmaceutical train to pull it off.

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See a ripped older dude then he worked out when younger and works his butt off in the gym. I am 60 and while not ripped am pretty muscular and not on anything. I work out in gym with trainer three times a week and run 5 times a week. Also worked out heavy most of my life. It is possible to gain muscle at any age -- it just takes work. I was on a glp1 and lost 60 pounds, 7 of which was muscle, which is a lot less than normal because of the workouts.

If you are a GLP and still working out hard during the medication how or why do you lose muscle?
Like you literally just get weaker? Go from benching 300 to 250 during the weight loss?

I get losing muscle if you are not using them but seems weird that your body would not be using the fat stores first for energy conversion than muscle; which is a lot more work for the body compared to fat conversion.

NP. Weight loss is always a result of a combination of muscle and fat loss. Even the most precise weight lifters lose some muscle when they cut. There is no perfect formula to make it’s 100 fat loss and 0 muscle loss. Losing 7 pounds of muscle out 60 total pounds lost is very impressive.

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Anonymous wrote:For older men (or women) who were not athletic younger or lifted weights consistently it is very difficult to build muscle in your 40s and beyond.

I am man who has never had serious weight issues but have gotten out of shape now and again. But as a father of teens I believe showing that eating healthy and exercising regularly sets a good example. Fat men should do whatever they need to be healthy just like fat women.

Getting ripped without the benefit of muscle memory may not be possible for most people, no matter what GLP or diet they pursue.

Which is why they are on testosterone. It's no secret that it's hard to put on muscle after 40, and it gets harder every year. It's fair to assume that if you see a ripped guy over 60, he's on T.

Getting prescribed testosterone takes an act of god from a US doctor. Even if you are point above the FDA chart no go. A point below? You get some microdose to get to the lowest level.

Testosterone is the most restricted prescription out there. Even more than opioids now.

No, a ripped guy in his 60s may have a testosterone prescription but not enough to get him jacked unless shady doctor willing to risk career.

This is where the whole peptide or anabolic steroids come in; or crazy discipline to look that - and I would say closer to 55 dudes have to be serious and not on pharmaceutical train to pull it off.

This.

See a ripped older dude then he worked out when younger and works his butt off in the gym. I am 60 and while not ripped am pretty muscular and not on anything. I work out in gym with trainer three times a week and run 5 times a week. Also worked out heavy most of my life. It is possible to gain muscle at any age -- it just takes work. I was on a glp1 and lost 60 pounds, 7 of which was muscle, which is a lot less than normal because of the workouts.

If you are a GLP and still working out hard during the medication how or why do you lose muscle?
Like you literally just get weaker? Go from benching 300 to 250 during the weight loss?

I get losing muscle if you are not using them but seems weird that your body would not be using the fat stores first for energy conversion than muscle; which is a lot more work for the body compared to fat conversion.

NP. Weight loss is always a result of a combination of muscle and fat loss. Even the most precise weight lifters lose some muscle when they cut. There is no perfect formula to make it’s 100 fat loss and 0 muscle loss. Losing 7 pounds of muscle out 60 total pounds lost is very impressive.

Sorry for my naïveté, but as collegiate wrestler I’ve dropped 15lbs in days to make weight. A lot of it water of course but no muscle or strength loss. Sucking weight impacts endurance more than strength in my experience.

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Anonymous wrote:For older men (or women) who were not athletic younger or lifted weights consistently it is very difficult to build muscle in your 40s and beyond.

I am man who has never had serious weight issues but have gotten out of shape now and again. But as a father of teens I believe showing that eating healthy and exercising regularly sets a good example. Fat men should do whatever they need to be healthy just like fat women.

Getting ripped without the benefit of muscle memory may not be possible for most people, no matter what GLP or diet they pursue.

Which is why they are on testosterone. It's no secret that it's hard to put on muscle after 40, and it gets harder every year. It's fair to assume that if you see a ripped guy over 60, he's on T.

Getting prescribed testosterone takes an act of god from a US doctor. Even if you are point above the FDA chart no go. A point below? You get some microdose to get to the lowest level.

Testosterone is the most restricted prescription out there. Even more than opioids now.

No, a ripped guy in his 60s may have a testosterone prescription but not enough to get him jacked unless shady doctor willing to risk career.

This is where the whole peptide or anabolic steroids come in; or crazy discipline to look that - and I would say closer to 55 dudes have to be serious and not on pharmaceutical train to pull it off.

This.

See a ripped older dude then he worked out when younger and works his butt off in the gym. I am 60 and while not ripped am pretty muscular and not on anything. I work out in gym with trainer three times a week and run 5 times a week. Also worked out heavy most of my life. It is possible to gain muscle at any age -- it just takes work. I was on a glp1 and lost 60 pounds, 7 of which was muscle, which is a lot less than normal because of the workouts.

If you are a GLP and still working out hard during the medication how or why do you lose muscle?
Like you literally just get weaker? Go from benching 300 to 250 during the weight loss?

I get losing muscle if you are not using them but seems weird that your body would not be using the fat stores first for energy conversion than muscle; which is a lot more work for the body compared to fat conversion.

NP. Weight loss is always a result of a combination of muscle and fat loss. Even the most precise weight lifters lose some muscle when they cut. There is no perfect formula to make it’s 100 fat loss and 0 muscle loss. Losing 7 pounds of muscle out 60 total pounds lost is very impressive.

Sorry for my naïveté, but as collegiate wrestler I’ve dropped 15lbs in days to make weight. A lot of it water of course but no muscle or strength loss. Sucking weight impacts endurance more than strength in my experience.

It would be unlikely that you actually measured what you lost to determine whether you lost muscle. You likely performed as expected at a wrestling match and called it a day. We are not talking about 20 year olds. We are talking about 40+.

[Anonymous]

I know several husbands who are on GLP‘s. Frankly, they look like they have cancer and skin is saggy. A couple go to the gym and it’s a little better but not by much.

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Anonymous wrote:I know several husbands who are on GLP‘s. Frankly, they look like they have cancer and skin is saggy. A couple go to the gym and it’s a little better but not by much.

Saying that thinner people look "sick" is a common cope used by the obese.

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Anonymous wrote:For older men (or women) who were not athletic younger or lifted weights consistently it is very difficult to build muscle in your 40s and beyond.

I am man who has never had serious weight issues but have gotten out of shape now and again. But as a father of teens I believe showing that eating healthy and exercising regularly sets a good example. Fat men should do whatever they need to be healthy just like fat women.

Getting ripped without the benefit of muscle memory may not be possible for most people, no matter what GLP or diet they pursue.

Which is why they are on testosterone. It's no secret that it's hard to put on muscle after 40, and it gets harder every year. It's fair to assume that if you see a ripped guy over 60, he's on T.

Getting prescribed testosterone takes an act of god from a US doctor. Even if you are point above the FDA chart no go. A point below? You get some microdose to get to the lowest level.

Testosterone is the most restricted prescription out there. Even more than opioids now.

No, a ripped guy in his 60s may have a testosterone prescription but not enough to get him jacked unless shady doctor willing to risk career.

This is where the whole peptide or anabolic steroids come in; or crazy discipline to look that - and I would say closer to 55 dudes have to be serious and not on pharmaceutical train to pull it off.

This.

See a ripped older dude then he worked out when younger and works his butt off in the gym. I am 60 and while not ripped am pretty muscular and not on anything. I work out in gym with trainer three times a week and run 5 times a week. Also worked out heavy most of my life. It is possible to gain muscle at any age -- it just takes work. I was on a glp1 and lost 60 pounds, 7 of which was muscle, which is a lot less than normal because of the workouts.

If you are a GLP and still working out hard during the medication how or why do you lose muscle?
Like you literally just get weaker? Go from benching 300 to 250 during the weight loss?

I get losing muscle if you are not using them but seems weird that your body would not be using the fat stores first for energy conversion than muscle; which is a lot more work for the body compared to fat conversion.

You cannot lose a lot of weight without losing some muscle. Not possible. And yes benching is impacted by your size and weight. A 300 pound dude can use that foce in a way a 220 pund dude cannot. also bigger guy less distance to do the bench.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am noticing more skinny fat dads as opposed to just regular fat at the pool so I’m guessing that’s the glp drugs.

Can you get muscular while taking them?

I've been on Zepbound (7.5 mg) for about 9 months as a mid-50s dad, and wanted to share my experience. I started around 230 lbs with a BMI of about 32. I'm now around 195 lbs with a BMI around 27.5.

One thing that surprised me is that weight loss on these medications does not have to mean losing a lot of muscle. During that time, I focused heavily on resistance training (mostly weights 5–6 days/week), averaging at least 8,000 steps/day, and prioritizing protein. According to body composition scans, I actually increased lean muscle by about 3 lbs (some of that may be related to starting creatine and increased muscle water retention).

My estimated body fat dropped from about 35% to about 23%, visceral fat went from 12 to 9, and my recent blood work is excellent. My wife also says I barely snore anymore, which has been one of the unexpected benefits.

It has definitely been a lifestyle change, not just taking a shot. The medication helped control hunger and made the calorie deficit sustainable, but the exercise, protein, and consistency have been a big part of the results.

Side effects have been minimal for me other than constipation, which I manage by paying close attention to hydration. I still enjoy things like a vodka seltzer in the evening, so it hasn't required a perfect diet or giving everything up. I am self-pay, which is about $450/month, so obviously that is a factor.

Overall, for me it has been very positive, but I think the strength training and nutrition piece have been critical.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am noticing more skinny fat dads as opposed to just regular fat at the pool so I’m guessing that’s the glp drugs.

Can you get muscular while taking them?

I've been on Zepbound (7.5 mg) for about 9 months as a mid-50s dad, and wanted to share my experience. I started around 230 lbs with a BMI of about 32. I'm now around 195 lbs with a BMI around 27.5.

One thing that surprised me is that weight loss on these medications does not have to mean losing a lot of muscle. During that time, I focused heavily on resistance training (mostly weights 5–6 days/week), averaging at least 8,000 steps/day, and prioritizing protein. According to body composition scans, I actually increased lean muscle by about 3 lbs (some of that may be related to starting creatine and increased muscle water retention).

My estimated body fat dropped from about 35% to about 23%, visceral fat went from 12 to 9, and my recent blood work is excellent. My wife also says I barely snore anymore, which has been one of the unexpected benefits.

It has definitely been a lifestyle change, not just taking a shot. The medication helped control hunger and made the calorie deficit sustainable, but the exercise, protein, and consistency have been a big part of the results.

Side effects have been minimal for me other than constipation, which I manage by paying close attention to hydration. I still enjoy things like a vodka seltzer in the evening, so it hasn't required a perfect diet or giving everything up. I am self-pay, which is about $450/month, so obviously that is a factor.

Overall, for me it has been very positive, but I think the strength training and nutrition piece have been critical.

great response - thanks!

[Anonymous]

Thanks, I appreciate it. I mainly shared because I think there is a lot of misunderstanding about these medications. Zepbound has been an incredibly helpful tool for controlling hunger and making better habits sustainable, but it is definitely not just taking a shot and doing nothing.
At first my goal was simply losing weight and improving my health markers. As I got closer to my goal, the focus changed more toward preserving muscle, strength, mobility, and being healthier long-term. Losing 35 pounds has been great, but improving my bloodwork, dropping visceral fat, almost eliminating snoring, and actually getting stronger have probably been the bigger wins.
I’m also realistic that I’m still taking the medication, and I do worry about what happens if/when I eventually stop. I know maintaining the loss is often the hardest part, which is one reason I’ve focused so much on building habits I can hopefully continue.
I lift weights 5–6 days a week now, walk regularly, and focus heavily on protein. I usually have a protein shake every day and most days do a version of intermittent fasting where I stop eating around 8 p.m. and don’t eat again until about 11 a.m. the next morning (not counting an evening drink).
It’s not perfection—I still enjoy some things like a vodka seltzer—but the medication has helped me make better choices consistently. My biggest takeaway is that Zepbound helped me lose weight, but strength training, protein, and changing daily routines are what I’m hoping will help me keep the benefits.

[Anonymous]

I know a lot of dads that are on GLP-1. DH doesn't need it, but several of our friends who are athletic but overweight are taking it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks, I appreciate it. I mainly shared because I think there is a lot of misunderstanding about these medications. Zepbound has been an incredibly helpful tool for controlling hunger and making better habits sustainable, but it is definitely not just taking a shot and doing nothing.
At first my goal was simply losing weight and improving my health markers. As I got closer to my goal, the focus changed more toward preserving muscle, strength, mobility, and being healthier long-term. Losing 35 pounds has been great, but improving my bloodwork, dropping visceral fat, almost eliminating snoring, and actually getting stronger have probably been the bigger wins.
I’m also realistic that I’m still taking the medication, and I do worry about what happens if/when I eventually stop. I know maintaining the loss is often the hardest part, which is one reason I’ve focused so much on building habits I can hopefully continue.
I lift weights 5–6 days a week now, walk regularly, and focus heavily on protein. I usually have a protein shake every day and most days do a version of intermittent fasting where I stop eating around 8 p.m. and don’t eat again until about 11 a.m. the next morning (not counting an evening drink).
It’s not perfection—I still enjoy some things like a vodka seltzer—but the medication has helped me make better choices consistently. My biggest takeaway is that Zepbound helped me lose weight, but strength training, protein, and changing daily routines are what I’m hoping will help me keep the benefits.

Thanks for sharing and really impressive to hear how much hard work you are putting in to build on zepbound jumpstart. 5-6 times a week of resistance training is crazy work.

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Anonymous wrote:I know men who take them. But i agree that being moderately overweight is not really a problem for men the way it is for women, both socially/romantically and in the workplace.

Yay men.

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Anonymous wrote:I know a lot of men that are on GLP-1s.

OP is too dumb to realize that her tiny social circle does not represent the universe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know several husbands who are on GLP‘s. Frankly, they look like they have cancer and skin is saggy. A couple go to the gym and it’s a little better but not by much.

They gained too much weight and lost too fast.
If you are just 20-30lb overweight and lose 1/2lb per week. It’s not noticeable.