Top 10 public "ranking"?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For those of you who put stock in standardized tests, there are only six public universities where the CDS shows over 50% of students submitted standardized test scores and where the 75th percentile of SAT was over 1500: Georgia Tech, Michigan, UIUC, UNC, UVA, William & Mary.


Aside from the test required universities (such as UNC), those applying into Engineering are advised to submit standardized scores especially math but the overall score is important as well, so they say. Don't 5 out of the 6 you mentioned above have competitive CS or Engineering programs?
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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who put stock in standardized tests, there are only six public universities where the CDS shows over 50% of students submitted standardized test scores and where the 75th percentile of SAT was over 1500: Georgia Tech, Michigan, UIUC, UNC, UVA, William & Mary.


Aside from the test required universities (such as UNC), those applying into Engineering are advised to submit standardized scores especially math but the overall score is important as well, so they say. Don't 5 out of the 6 you mentioned above have competitive CS or Engineering programs?


UNC does not require tests for anyone over 2.8
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Anonymous wrote:UC Merced is considered a top 20 public school by US News.



and yet we all know that it isn't


It’s 25 due to USNWR reliance on social mobility as a factor. 86-87% of Merced’s students are racial or ethnic minorities


UC Merced is ranked higher than UMass, UConn, Delaware, UVM, etc. In the next five years it will be a T15 public.


Please stop. It will not. US News will change the methodology. I am happy UC Merced exists and it fulfills a need. But it is not a top school.
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Anonymous wrote:UC Merced is considered a top 20 public school by US News.



and yet we all know that it isn't


It’s 25 due to USNWR reliance on social mobility as a factor. 86-87% of Merced’s students are racial or ethnic minorities


UC Merced is ranked higher than UMass, UConn, Delaware, UVM, etc. In the next five years it will be a T15 public.


Please stop. It will not. US News will change the methodology. I am happy UC Merced exists and it fulfills a need. But it is not a top school.


And it is not trying to be, at least not yet. However, Davis and Irvine are both in top something among public universities, so who knows Merced might climb especially if they can grow certain programs.
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Anonymous wrote:For those of you who put stock in standardized tests, there are only six public universities where the CDS shows over 50% of students submitted standardized test scores and where the 75th percentile of SAT was over 1500: Georgia Tech, Michigan, UIUC, UNC, UVA, William & Mary.


Source?

It's in each school's Common Data Set, under section C9.
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Anonymous wrote:No UMD? Why?


UMD is t10 for computer science and maybe engineering- it is not Michigan, uva or Georgia tech (and I am terp alum and a parent of terp alum)


Is GA Tech t10 aside computer science and engineering?



Georgia Institute of Technology 2026 USWR

#3 in Best Undergraduate Engineering Programs (tie)
#1 in Biomedical Engineering (tie)
#1 in Industrial / Manufacturing
#1 in Environmental / Environmental Health
#2 in Aerospace /Aeronautical / Astronautical
#2 in Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering
#2 in Civil Engineering
#3 in Electrical Engineering
#3 in Materials Engineering
#4 in Mechanical Engineering (tie)
#6 in Computer Engineering

#19 in Undergraduate Business Programs (tie)
#2 in Management Information Systems (tie)
#3 in Business Analytics
#5 in Quantitative Analysis
#6 in Production / Operation Management
#6 in Supply Chain Management / Logistics
[b]
#5 in Computer Science (tie)[/b
#1 in Mobile/Web Applications
#2 in Cybersecurity
#3 in Software Engineering (tie)
#5 in Artificial Intelligence
#5 in Data Analytics/Science
tie)

#3 in Co-ops/Internships
#3 in Most Innovative Schools
Anonymous
There’s some crazy UCLA hate in this thread, which is funny because the cross-enrollment data consistently blows that hate sky high.

UCLA vs. Berkeley: 61 / 39
UCLA vs. Michigan: 55 / 45
UCLA vs. UVA: 60 / 40
UCLA vs. UNC: 87 / 13
UCLA vs. Texas: 47 / 53
UCLA vs. Georgia Tech: 71 / 29
UCLA vs. Florida: 74 / 26
UCLA vs. UIUC: 73 / 27
UCLA vs. Georgia: 63 / 37
UCLA vs. Wisconsin: 71 / 29
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There’s some crazy UCLA hate in this thread, which is funny because the cross-enrollment data consistently blows that hate sky high.

UCLA vs. Berkeley: 61 / 39
UCLA vs. Michigan: 55 / 45
UCLA vs. UVA: 60 / 40
UCLA vs. UNC: 87 / 13
UCLA vs. Texas: 47 / 53
UCLA vs. Georgia Tech: 71 / 29
UCLA vs. Florida: 74 / 26
UCLA vs. UIUC: 73 / 27
UCLA vs. Georgia: 63 / 37
UCLA vs. Wisconsin: 71 / 29


lol First, you know how populated California is correct? You know how many in-staters apply to UCLA correct? You do know those thousands in-staters that get accepted to UCLA that applied to the other Publics listed above receive in-state tuition at UCLA, correct? These same applicants must pay a lot in OOS tuition at the other Publics, correct? You think that impacted some of these decisions in the stats above? C'mon man! Some of these posts.
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Anonymous wrote:Is there really a rank? Aren't they all flagships which exist to educate predominantly the students of that state? When someone refers to a T10 public "ranking", is it for grad programs or for undergrad?


There are rankings. Five are in CA ….UCB, UCLA, UCSD, UCD and UCI. Are in the 1-9 spots.


I don't think this ranking is possible and wasn't going to chime in but, come on. No one thinks Davis and Irvine are in the top 10. Personally, I don't think UCLA or San Diego belong there either. California is so lucky to have a surplus of appealing schools but when you start calling them all "top ten," I have to disagree. They have too many major issues, starting with impacted majors that make it incredibly difficult to finish in four years. There aren't enough professors or seats, much less beds for students to finish on time. A second, totally different kind of problem, is the admissions mess caused by the "test-blind" policy.


Davis and Irvine are tied for the 9 th spot in the top 10. Regardless of what you may feel, these schools are ranked in the top 10 and have been for a while.
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Anonymous wrote:There’s some crazy UCLA hate in this thread, which is funny because the cross-enrollment data consistently blows that hate sky high.

UCLA vs. Berkeley: 61 / 39
UCLA vs. Michigan: 55 / 45
UCLA vs. UVA: 60 / 40
UCLA vs. UNC: 87 / 13
UCLA vs. Texas: 47 / 53
UCLA vs. Georgia Tech: 71 / 29
UCLA vs. Florida: 74 / 26
UCLA vs. UIUC: 73 / 27
UCLA vs. Georgia: 63 / 37
UCLA vs. Wisconsin: 71 / 29


lol First, you know how populated California is correct? You know how many in-staters apply to UCLA correct? You do know those thousands in-staters that get accepted to UCLA that applied to the other Publics listed above receive in-state tuition at UCLA, correct? These same applicants must pay a lot in OOS tuition at the other Publics, correct? You think that impacted some of these decisions in the stats above? C'mon man! Some of these posts.


Are you serious? The exact same argument cuts all ways, genius.

Michigan: $40K vs. $84K
UVA: $42 vs. $85K
UNC: $29K vs. $70K
Texas: $35K vs. $73K

Do the research on the rest yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:Is there really a rank? Aren't they all flagships which exist to educate predominantly the students of that state? When someone refers to a T10 public "ranking", is it for grad programs or for undergrad?


There are rankings. Five are in CA ….UCB, UCLA, UCSD, UCD and UCI. Are in the 1-9 spots.


I don't think this ranking is possible and wasn't going to chime in but, come on. No one thinks Davis and Irvine are in the top 10. Personally, I don't think UCLA or San Diego belong there either. California is so lucky to have a surplus of appealing schools but when you start calling them all "top ten," I have to disagree. They have too many major issues, starting with impacted majors that make
it incredibly difficult to finish in four years. There aren't enough professors or seats, much less beds for students to finish on time. A second, totally different kind of problem, is the admissions mess caused by the "test-blind" policy.


Davis and Irvine are tied for the 9 th spot in the top 10. Regardless of what you may feel, these schools are ranked in the top 10 and have been for a while.


NP. These are test blind schools (joke) and rankings are skewed because they have a lot of poor and first gen students. No way they should be anywhere near the top 10. California residents posting on DCUM are in a bubble. No one thinks USNWR rankings are correct for public universities because of the Pell grant weighting. No one outside of California and Asia (a culture that views rankings as fact) thinks these schools are “top ten.” Maybe get out of the California bubble? Test blind is ruining the reputation of the UC system, even the top 3. Cal should be top 10 and maybe UCLA, but that is it. Have you read the article circulating about the number of UCSD kids incapable of doing basic high school math? Guess what, standardized tests setting admissions standards would fix that! -signed a Cal alum, long time DC resident, and California native.
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Anonymous wrote:Is there really a rank? Aren't they all flagships which exist to educate predominantly the students of that state? When someone refers to a T10 public "ranking", is it for grad programs or for undergrad?


There are rankings. Five are in CA ….UCB, UCLA, UCSD, UCD and UCI. Are in the 1-9 spots.


I don't think this ranking is possible and wasn't going to chime in but, come on. No one thinks Davis and Irvine are in the top 10. Personally, I don't think UCLA or San Diego belong there either. California is so lucky to have a surplus of appealing schools but when you start calling them all "top ten," I have to disagree. They have too many major issues, starting with impacted majors that make
it incredibly difficult to finish in four years. There aren't enough professors or seats, much less beds for students to finish on time. A second, totally different kind of problem, is the admissions mess caused by the "test-blind" policy.


Davis and Irvine are tied for the 9 th spot in the top 10. Regardless of what you may feel, these schools are ranked in the top 10 and have been for a while.


NP. These are test blind schools (joke) and rankings are skewed because they have a lot of poor and first gen students. No way they should be anywhere near the top 10. California residents posting on DCUM are in a bubble. No one thinks USNWR rankings are correct for public universities because of the Pell grant weighting. No one outside of California and Asia (a culture that views rankings as fact) thinks these schools are “top ten.” Maybe get out of the California bubble? Test blind is ruining the reputation of the UC system, even the top 3. Cal should be top 10 and maybe UCLA, but that is it. Have you read the article circulating about the number of UCSD kids incapable of doing basic high school math? Guess what, standardized tests setting admissions standards would fix that! -signed a Cal alum, long time DC resident, and California native.


Which one in CA is #3? Used to be Davis once upon a time. Then UCSD. Still? Sounds silly to rank 5 UCs in a t10 ranking among national public colleges
Anonymous
The UC schools are all on the decline and have major issues with over enrollment, overcrowded classes, and difficulty enrolling in required classes making graduating on time challenging. I don’t consider any of them worthy of top 10. Do better California.
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Anonymous wrote:Is there really a rank? Aren't they all flagships which exist to educate predominantly the students of that state? When someone refers to a T10 public "ranking", is it for grad programs or for undergrad?


There are rankings. Five are in CA ….UCB, UCLA, UCSD, UCD and UCI. Are in the 1-9 spots.


I don't think this ranking is possible and wasn't going to chime in but, come on. No one thinks Davis and Irvine are in the top 10. Personally, I don't think UCLA or San Diego belong there either. California is so lucky to have a surplus of appealing schools but when you start calling them all "top ten," I have to disagree. They have too many major issues, starting with impacted majors that make
it incredibly difficult to finish in four years. There aren't enough professors or seats, much less beds for students to finish on time. A second, totally different kind of problem, is the admissions mess caused by the "test-blind" policy.


Davis and Irvine are tied for the 9 th spot in the top 10. Regardless of what you may feel, these schools are ranked in the top 10 and have been for a while.


NP. These are test blind schools (joke) and rankings are skewed because they have a lot of poor and first gen students. No way they should be anywhere near the top 10. California residents posting on DCUM are in a bubble. No one thinks USNWR rankings are correct for public universities because of the Pell grant weighting. No one outside of California and Asia (a culture that views rankings as fact) thinks these schools are “top ten.” Maybe get out of the California bubble? Test blind is ruining the reputation of the UC system, even the top 3. Cal should be top 10 and maybe UCLA, but that is it. Have you read the article circulating about the number of UCSD kids incapable of doing basic high school math? Guess what, standardized tests setting admissions standards would fix that! -signed a Cal alum, long time DC resident, and California native.


Which one in CA is #3? Used to be Davis once upon a time. Then UCSD. Still? Sounds silly to rank 5 UCs in a t10 ranking among national public colleges


So take the five out and rank the remaining five national public. Go at it, have fun with this, ranking obsessed posters!

Anonymous
Notwithstanding the views of the “no one thinks” / “everyone knows” genius, California will continue to dunk all over whatever state or nation the UC haters hail from.

It’s regrettable that the dreams of their children were crushed when UCLA and/or Berkeley rejected them, but the fact remains that the UC system reigns supreme.

Maybe next year, though. 😂
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