If you live out of state, why would you apply to UC schools? They are not worth out of state tuition. Much better options exist. |
Such as? The remaining 5 universities from the t10 public? |
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Further trashing of the UC haters:
Acceptance rate for in-state applicants: UCLA: 10.0% Berkeley: 13.5% UCSD: 26.5% UVA: 25.5% Michigan - Ann Arbor: 39.5% UT - Austin: 41.0% UNC - Chapel Hill: 41.5% Compare those stone cold facts with the respective OOS acceptance rates. We’re supposed to believe that the institutions accepting a higher percentage of their population are better than the more selective ones that are accepting a lower percentage of their population? Yeah, OK. |
My kid is graduating from Berkeley in a week, so what I’m about to say isn’t coming from a “hater”, but this is one of the dumbest analyses I’ve seen on DCUM. |
“Better” is quite subjective (I’m not going to waste my time dispatching your “much better” talk into the dumpster), but sure - I’ll play along. Lifestyle / Quality of Life? Desire to find professional prospects in the largest state economy in the country, larger than all but three COUNTRIES? You think HS students around the country are dreaming of settling in Virginia? North Carolina? Texas? Michigan is a brand pull, and the third best public, so no objection there. But do you seriously think the kid growing up in Ohio is dreaming of someday finding a way to live in Richmond? Charlotte? Dallas? Get serious. Your jealousy of California is blinding you. But that changes nothing. |
Any private off the T50 list would be better for an out of state resident than a UC school. With financial aid their cost would be comparable for most. |
The opinions of CC transfers don’t count, so settle down. And it’s an analysis. |
So my kid is also graduating this week with a double major and attended Cal from the East Coast. He is a hustler for sure because he managed to get opportunities. He got into YC, top quant internships and great opportunities on campus. Frankly, I never thought he would do any of this because he was not a tech or startup kid before he got there. His friends are were all high stats and high achieving (his SAT was 1550 plus). He had a choice of a top SLAC but chose to go to Cal against our advice and he has been very fortunate. In retrospect, he was right to choose Berkeley because he happened to be there right during the AI boom and being in that ecosystem has accelerated his growth. |
Congratulations to your graduate - sounds like a bright future ahead! |
+100 the UC system doesn’t make sense for out of state residents |
So needlessly aggressive. When I say “one of the dumbest analyses I’ve seen on DCUM”, I mean “I’ve seen many analyses on DCUM”. Among those, I’ve seen both intelligent, thoughtful takes, and … takes that are … not. Of the many analyses I’ve seen on DCUM, “the UC low admit rates mean they’re the best schools in the country booya mic drop” is one of the dumbest. |
| The whole top ten public ranking is silly, as if all of these schools are close to being equal to each other academically. |
I, too, have apparently been unclear. Anyone arguing that UCLA, Berkeley, and Michigan are anything but the clear-cut, undisputed Top 3 public institutions in this country is an abject moron; a rounding error, bereft of the minimum level of general cognitive abilities necessary to continue the discussion. Resentment and jealousy of the State of California has become an obsessive pastime for large swaths of America, but that doesn’t excuse your lame responses. There. Have a great day, though! |
Lol 😂 |
Nobody is jealous of California. It is fine. Their UC schools are nice for in-state residents mainly due to the cost but they have problems making them unattractive for out of state residents who would have to pay more than they are worth. |