Child critically hurt after ATV driver runs him down, flees in Northwest DC

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Anonymous wrote:I was shocked to see a great big group of ATVs riding down the wrong way of Constitution right toward us. They took over both directions in a moving caravan. We just froze in place, no where to go.

What makes you think you weren't going the wrong direction? Check your privilege.

So now it’s a sign of privilege to be move in the correct direction on roadways?

They weren't driving a car. Why would they have to follow your "rules?"

[Anonymous]

This is a product of years and years of no law-enforcement or consequences for illegal behavior, regardless of how minor it seems. But this is what the people voted in and these are the policies that the people of DC want.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The ATVers generally live in PG County. They don't have license plates and wear helmets so can't be identified. if police give chase, it is more likely to cause crashes and more destruction and injury. What exactly do you all propose?

Is it really that hard? Follow them in unmarked police cars or with drones. When they stop to get gas or when they go home, arrest them and destroy their ATVs. Chances are, they're poor and won't be able to buy another ATV for awhile. You could also pay the public to identify them.

This is wildly illegal.

Terribly sad for all involved. I hope both the child and the driver find healing.

You disgust me. You are part of the problem, and probably for give-them-a-hug legislation. The driver isn't looking for healing. They are looking to cause chaos and pain. The more the better.

This was very clearly an accident. The driver has to live with knowing that they caused very serious injury to this individual. That’s a heavy thing.

Janeese Lewis George has entered the chat...

And it turns out that the person we're supposed to be feeling for is the guy who was illegally riding an ATV on a city street, who hit two children while doing a wheelie, putting one of them in critical condition, and who then refused to help the bleeding child in the street and instead fled the scene so he wouldn't have to be suffer any consequences for their actions...

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ATVers generally live in PG County. They don't have license plates and wear helmets so can't be identified. if police give chase, it is more likely to cause crashes and more destruction and injury. What exactly do you all propose?

Is it really that hard? Follow them in unmarked police cars or with drones. When they stop to get gas or when they go home, arrest them and destroy their ATVs. Chances are, they're poor and won't be able to buy another ATV for awhile. You could also pay the public to identify them.

This is wildly illegal.

Terribly sad for all involved. I hope both the child and the driver find healing.

You disgust me. You are part of the problem, and probably for give-them-a-hug legislation. The driver isn't looking for healing. They are looking to cause chaos and pain. The more the better.

This was very clearly an accident. The driver has to live with knowing that they caused very serious injury to this individual. That’s a heavy thing.

I don't think it's really an accident. He was driving a vehicle that is not street legal, speeding and doing stunts on public roads while pedestrians are around. It's nearly inevitable that someone will get hurt.

I would love it if MPD cracked down on ATVs, and speeding cars, too. Both are a problem and a danger.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ATVers generally live in PG County. They don't have license plates and wear helmets so can't be identified. if police give chase, it is more likely to cause crashes and more destruction and injury. What exactly do you all propose?

Is it really that hard? Follow them in unmarked police cars or with drones. When they stop to get gas or when they go home, arrest them and destroy their ATVs. Chances are, they're poor and won't be able to buy another ATV for awhile. You could also pay the public to identify them.

This is wildly illegal.

Terribly sad for all involved. I hope both the child and the driver find healing.

You disgust me. You are part of the problem, and probably for give-them-a-hug legislation. The driver isn't looking for healing. They are looking to cause chaos and pain. The more the better.

This was very clearly an accident. The driver has to live with knowing that they caused very serious injury to this individual. That’s a heavy thing.

I don't think it's really an accident. He was driving a vehicle that is not street legal, speeding and doing stunts on public roads while pedestrians are around. It's nearly inevitable that someone will get hurt.

I would love it if MPD cracked down on ATVs, and speeding cars, too. Both are a problem and a danger.

MPD isn't the problem. The problem are the politicians. They don't want the cops to do anything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ATVers generally live in PG County. They don't have license plates and wear helmets so can't be identified. if police give chase, it is more likely to cause crashes and more destruction and injury. What exactly do you all propose?

Is it really that hard? Follow them in unmarked police cars or with drones. When they stop to get gas or when they go home, arrest them and destroy their ATVs. Chances are, they're poor and won't be able to buy another ATV for awhile. You could also pay the public to identify them.

This is wildly illegal.

Terribly sad for all involved. I hope both the child and the driver find healing.

The only illegal part would be destroying their bike without due process.

Coincidentally we have an admin that doesn’t care, so maybe there’s a window

[Anonymous]

Homie straight DIPPED after killing this child. Absolutely crazy. You know the ATV he was driving has already been stripped for parts and he cut off his dreads

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a product of years and years of no law-enforcement or consequences for illegal behavior, regardless of how minor it seems. But this is what the people voted in and these are the policies that the people of DC want.

Quoting myself. The dc police union just posted this https://x.com/dcpoliceunion/status/2041480656803221925?s=46&t=R3AX3c486LFdeZpFtkN_eA

[Anonymous]

If DJT could fix the ATV problem, people might actually like him here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Blame this on our stupid government. People have been asking that they do something about the ATVS for years. They've done nothing.

This. There is actually a great documentary re this in Baltimore called 12 o'clock boys from 2013. In it it is discussed that once when police tried to stop a meet up, it ended in a police chase and a kid getting killed. So after that the police stopped trying to stop them. There is a long history with this and it is really sad a kid got hurt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If DJT could fix the ATV problem, people might actually like him here.

Seriously.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Blame this on our stupid government. People have been asking that they do something about the ATVS for years. They've done nothing.

This. There is actually a great documentary re this in Baltimore called 12 o'clock boys from 2013. In it it is discussed that once when police tried to stop a meet up, it ended in a police chase and a kid getting killed. So after that the police stopped trying to stop them. There is a long history with this and it is really sad a kid got hurt.

I think 12 o'clock boys is on Showtime. A 12 o'clock boy means the driver of the dirt bike or ATV can ride it completely vertical with the front wheels in the air so it looks like the 12 o'clock hands of a clock. This has been in the culture for decades, first in Baltimore then it made its way in the DMV in the 2010s. The documentary really shows you the mindset of the drivers, they equate it to freedom, expression, being cool, counter culture, and aren't afraid of getting caught/going to jail/getting hurt. One kid even says something like "well I didn't join a gang so instead I am a 12 o'clock boy". Baltimore didn't know what to do, because they already were criticized for overpolicing and had a very poor relationship with the public but they also didn't want anyone to get hurt. They didn't seem to worried about the lawlessness or the traffic issues. They tried to get the kids to just do it on Sundays or something like that and then there was a push for the city to build an ATV park so they could ride their dirt bikes and ATVs there instead of in the street.

The documentary is wild, I think it won a bunch of awards. Anyway, it is a fascinating look into this culture and mindset. It is not surprising that the government/police STILL don't know what to do, but none of them can claim "well we didn't know this would happen" because this was 2013, meaning it was filmed a few years before so there has been at least 15 years of this problem.

trailer here: https://youtu.be/gOMQY6k16TU?si=3iDX5RrLe33C_VMa

[Anonymous]

Good thing one of the leading mayor candidates is serious about cracking down on crime. Oh wait...

https://x.com/DCPoliceUnion/status/2037243523615858936/photo/1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blame this on our stupid government. People have been asking that they do something about the ATVS for years. They've done nothing.

This. There is actually a great documentary re this in Baltimore called 12 o'clock boys from 2013. In it it is discussed that once when police tried to stop a meet up, it ended in a police chase and a kid getting killed. So after that the police stopped trying to stop them. There is a long history with this and it is really sad a kid got hurt.

I think 12 o'clock boys is on Showtime. A 12 o'clock boy means the driver of the dirt bike or ATV can ride it completely vertical with the front wheels in the air so it looks like the 12 o'clock hands of a clock. This has been in the culture for decades, first in Baltimore then it made its way in the DMV in the 2010s. The documentary really shows you the mindset of the drivers, they equate it to freedom, expression, being cool, counter culture, and aren't afraid of getting caught/going to jail/getting hurt. One kid even says something like "well I didn't join a gang so instead I am a 12 o'clock boy". Baltimore didn't know what to do, because they already were criticized for overpolicing and had a very poor relationship with the public but they also didn't want anyone to get hurt. They didn't seem to worried about the lawlessness or the traffic issues. They tried to get the kids to just do it on Sundays or something like that and then there was a push for the city to build an ATV park so they could ride their dirt bikes and ATVs there instead of in the street.

The documentary is wild, I think it won a bunch of awards. Anyway, it is a fascinating look into this culture and mindset. It is not surprising that the government/police STILL don't know what to do, but none of them can claim "well we didn't know this would happen" because this was 2013, meaning it was filmed a few years before so there has been at least 15 years of this problem.

trailer here: https://youtu.be/gOMQY6k16TU?si=3iDX5RrLe33C_VMa

This is all stupid. If a person driving a car had run over two kids, there would be no end to the outrage. But because it's someone on an ATV, we're powerless? Why are ATV's even legal to own in this city? No one needs an ATV is one of the most densely populated cities in the Western hemisphere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a product of years and years of no law-enforcement or consequences for illegal behavior, regardless of how minor it seems. But this is what the people voted in and these are the policies that the people of DC want.

Quoting myself. The dc police union just posted this https://x.com/dcpoliceunion/status/2041480656803221925?s=46&t=R3AX3c486LFdeZpFtkN_eA

This is great. The DC Police Union's twitter feed is pretty much them just calling out DC politicians' absurd decisions on crime.