Rejected from Virginia publics—am I out of line?

[Anonymous]

Op, DS was rejected with 3.9 gpa, Sat 1550 due to only taking two years of language, UVA is big on advance or at least three years of language requirement.

Also, look into GMU transfer to UVA instead of gap years, take advance the language!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:4.1 weighted (school does not do UW), maxed out rigor, and involved in activities. Applied as an IR/gov/polisci major to UVA, William and Mary, and Virginia tech and was outright denied by UVA and W&M. VT waitlisted but as far as I know they have no ‘spring waitlist’ program or separate campus like UVA wise you can go to for a year instead.

The only thing I can think of that could be the cause of this is my daughter’s name, which sounds Asian American despite her being Caucasian. Her first name is a name that some people have said is a stereotypical Asian name (think Alice or Christina), and our last name is Lee, which could be either white or Asian Korean.

In our case, it’s white, but people have said in the past when they have seen my daughter’s name but not my daughter (at first meetings, summer camp, etc) that they were expecting an Asian girl based on her name.

My husband thinks I sound like I need to be medicated, but I floated the idea of taking a gap year and changing either my daughter’s first or last name to be more explicitly Caucasian. She was open to it and is very young for her cohort anyway so it wouldn’t make her feel out of place later.

Am I out of line here? I’m not saying that it’s right that there may be a disadvantage for Asian Americans, but I don’t want my daughter to be harmed by any sort of biases.

Did she at least get in some good privates? JHU? Rice? Emory? Vandy? and top liberal arts colleges?

With a 4.1W? No way. Scores are most likely 1150-1350 with that GPA, depending on the high school

OP here.

To answer many questions:
- She did not apply to Case Western.
- The reason I expected better results is because her older brothers had similar stats (and one slightly lower stats) and they both got into their colleges of choice.
- Her SAT score was 710 Verbal, 730 Math, which I thought was right at the median for UVA and William and Mary and above the average for Virginia Tech.

AND DID HER SIBLINGS HAVE THE SAME LAST NAME???

Your logic leaves much to be desired.

To your question, maybe her brothers had better essays or other things in their application.

Boys get penis points.

Schools want to have gender balance as much as possible, and at most schools about 2/3 of the applicants are girls. Boys get a boost.

Not in state schools for undergraduates. It's a violation of Title 9.

Actually, most schools have gender imbalances at the undergrad level. There's a been a ton of debate on its impact on campus life. Despite the best efforts, high school boys just aren't as academic as high school girls, so schools lower standards to get the boys, and try to attract them with athletics.

But for OP's case, I think there might have been weaknesses in the application, not just a meh GPA. So many kids don't know how to market themselves: two kids with exactly the same stats and profile can portray themselves completely different on their essays, and one will get in, the other will not. College admissions officers are looking for essays that tie everything together and explain who the student is. It's very tough for the average 17 year old.

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DID SHE GET IN ANYWHERE???

OP here.

Yes, she did. She is thinking (if no gap year) JMU then possible transfer. She was accepted at JMU.

So your entire subject line and premise was a lie. She got accepted to a Virginia public. Go away, OP, and get your DD excited about JMU.

OP here. I never said ‘every single Virginia public’ nor would I. Most schools take anyone. That’s not what I want for my daughter and it isn’t what you want for yours either so get off your high horse

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DID SHE GET IN ANYWHERE???

OP here.

Yes, she did. She is thinking (if no gap year) JMU then possible transfer. She was accepted at JMU.

What you need to go is get her excited about JMU, not build resentment about where she didn't get in. She can see how she does and transfer but she doesn't want to go in that way right away as it could keep her from integrating and making friends.

Seriously, go buy her a nice JMU sweatshirt and tell her that you are proud of her.

[Anonymous]

She had lots of Bs in weighted classes right?

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DID SHE GET IN ANYWHERE???

OP here.

Yes, she did. She is thinking (if no gap year) JMU then possible transfer. She was accepted at JMU.

What you need to go is get her excited about JMU, not build resentment about where she didn't get in. She can see how she does and transfer but she doesn't want to go in that way right away as it could keep her from integrating and making friends.

Seriously, go buy her a nice JMU sweatshirt and tell her that you are proud of her.

You want OP to lie? OP isn’t proud of her daughter in the slightest and her daughter knows it.

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Anonymous wrote:4.1 weighted (school does not do UW), maxed out rigor, and involved in activities. Applied as an IR/gov/polisci major to UVA, William and Mary, and Virginia tech and was outright denied by UVA and W&M. VT waitlisted but as far as I know they have no ‘spring waitlist’ program or separate campus like UVA wise you can go to for a year instead.

The only thing I can think of that could be the cause of this is my daughter’s name, which sounds Asian American despite her being Caucasian. Her first name is a name that some people have said is a stereotypical Asian name (think Alice or Christina), and our last name is Lee, which could be either white or Asian Korean.

In our case, it’s white, but people have said in the past when they have seen my daughter’s name but not my daughter (at first meetings, summer camp, etc) that they were expecting an Asian girl based on her name.

My husband thinks I sound like I need to be medicated, but I floated the idea of taking a gap year and changing either my daughter’s first or last name to be more explicitly Caucasian. She was open to it and is very young for her cohort anyway so it wouldn’t make her feel out of place later.

Am I out of line here? I’m not saying that it’s right that there may be a disadvantage for Asian Americans, but I don’t want my daughter to be harmed by any sort of biases.

Did she at least get in some good privates? JHU? Rice? Emory? Vandy? and top liberal arts colleges?

With a 4.1W? No way. Scores are most likely 1150-1350 with that GPA, depending on the high school

OP here.

To answer many questions:
- She did not apply to Case Western.
- The reason I expected better results is because her older brothers had similar stats (and one slightly lower stats) and they both got into their colleges of choice.
- Her SAT score was 710 Verbal, 730 Math, which I thought was right at the median for UVA and William and Mary and above the average for Virginia Tech.

So your sons got in, but when your daughter didn’t, it’s because of racism? 😂 Make it make sense.

[Anonymous]

My kid, with a 3.9 weighted GPA, was accepted to VT - not engineering or business. Math up to AP Calc AB and AP Spanish. Lots of volunteer hours and EC related to their major. They spent A LOT of time answering those VT app questions. In state FCPS.

[Anonymous]

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DID SHE GET IN ANYWHERE???

OP here.

Yes, she did. She is thinking (if no gap year) JMU then possible transfer. She was accepted at JMU.

So your entire subject line and premise was a lie. She got accepted to a Virginia public. Go away, OP, and get your DD excited about JMU.

OP here. I never said ‘every single Virginia public’ nor would I. Most schools take anyone. That’s not what I want for my daughter and it isn’t what you want for yours either so get off your high horse

Your husband is right. You need to calm down and stop taking your anger out of other people.

You created a thread based on a false premise (race), that you yourself shot down. You are all over the damn place. Get over yourself, and start selling other options for your kid. Your daughter deserves a SUPPORTIVE mother, not a raging hellyon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid, with a 3.9 weighted GPA, was accepted to VT - not engineering or business. Math up to AP Calc AB and AP Spanish. Lots of volunteer hours and EC related to their major. They spent A LOT of time answering those VT app questions. In state FCPS.

Forgot to add 1370 SAT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:😆😆😆😆 You do realize being white or Asian is both a disadvantage?

When whites and Asians- the most overrepresented groups in colleges - claim a "disadvantage," you know how systemic white privilege is.

Ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:4.1 weighted (school does not do UW), maxed out rigor, and involved in activities. Applied as an IR/gov/polisci major to UVA, William and Mary, and Virginia tech and was outright denied by UVA and W&M. VT waitlisted but as far as I know they have no ‘spring waitlist’ program or separate campus like UVA wise you can go to for a year instead.

The only thing I can think of that could be the cause of this is my daughter’s name, which sounds Asian American despite her being Caucasian. Her first name is a name that some people have said is a stereotypical Asian name (think Alice or Christina), and our last name is Lee, which could be either white or Asian Korean.

In our case, it’s white, but people have said in the past when they have seen my daughter’s name but not my daughter (at first meetings, summer camp, etc) that they were expecting an Asian girl based on her name.

My husband thinks I sound like I need to be medicated, but I floated the idea of taking a gap year and changing either my daughter’s first or last name to be more explicitly Caucasian. She was open to it and is very young for her cohort anyway so it wouldn’t make her feel out of place later.

Am I out of line here? I’m not saying that it’s right that there may be a disadvantage for Asian Americans, but I don’t want my daughter to be harmed by any sort of biases.

Did she at least get in some good privates? JHU? Rice? Emory? Vandy? and top liberal arts colleges?

With a 4.1W? No way. Scores are most likely 1150-1350 with that GPA, depending on the high school

OP here.

To answer many questions:
- She did not apply to Case Western.
- The reason I expected better results is because her older brothers had similar stats (and one slightly lower stats) and they both got into their colleges of choice.
- Her SAT score was 710 Verbal, 730 Math, which I thought was right at the median for UVA and William and Mary and above the average for Virginia Tech.

AND DID HER SIBLINGS HAVE THE SAME LAST NAME???

Your logic leaves much to be desired.

To your question, maybe her brothers had better essays or other things in their application.

Boys get penis points.

Schools want to have gender balance as much as possible, and at most schools about 2/3 of the applicants are girls. Boys get a boost.

Not in state schools for undergraduates. It's a violation of Title 9.

Actually, most schools have gender imbalances at the undergrad level. There's a been a ton of debate on its impact on campus life. Despite the best efforts, high school boys just aren't as academic as high school girls, so schools lower standards to get the boys, and try to attract them with athletics.

But for OP's case, I think there might have been weaknesses in the application, not just a meh GPA. So many kids don't know how to market themselves: two kids with exactly the same stats and profile can portray themselves completely different on their essays, and one will get in, the other will not. College admissions officers are looking for essays that tie everything together and explain who the student is. It's very tough for the average 17 year old.

And you're an idiot.

Yes, most schools have gender imbalances, yes -- BECAUSE more girls are applying and the schools are therefore accepting more of them rather than lowering the standards for boys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
DID SHE GET IN ANYWHERE???

OP here.

Yes, she did. She is thinking (if no gap year) JMU then possible transfer. She was accepted at JMU.

What you need to go is get her excited about JMU, not build resentment about where she didn't get in. She can see how she does and transfer but she doesn't want to go in that way right away as it could keep her from integrating and making friends.

Seriously, go buy her a nice JMU sweatshirt and tell her that you are proud of her.

You want OP to lie? OP isn’t proud of her daughter in the slightest and her daughter knows it.

Yes, pretend to be happy. Lie your a** off, OP. Don't bring your kid down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:4.1 weighted (school does not do UW), maxed out rigor, and involved in activities. Applied as an IR/gov/polisci major to UVA, William and Mary, and Virginia tech and was outright denied by UVA and W&M. VT waitlisted but as far as I know they have no ‘spring waitlist’ program or separate campus like UVA wise you can go to for a year instead.

The only thing I can think of that could be the cause of this is my daughter’s name, which sounds Asian American despite her being Caucasian. Her first name is a name that some people have said is a stereotypical Asian name (think Alice or Christina), and our last name is Lee, which could be either white or Asian Korean.

In our case, it’s white, but people have said in the past when they have seen my daughter’s name but not my daughter (at first meetings, summer camp, etc) that they were expecting an Asian girl based on her name.

My husband thinks I sound like I need to be medicated, but I floated the idea of taking a gap year and changing either my daughter’s first or last name to be more explicitly Caucasian. She was open to it and is very young for her cohort anyway so it wouldn’t make her feel out of place later.

Am I out of line here? I’m not saying that it’s right that there may be a disadvantage for Asian Americans, but I don’t want my daughter to be harmed by any sort of biases.

Did she at least get in some good privates? JHU? Rice? Emory? Vandy? and top liberal arts colleges?

With a 4.1W? No way. Scores are most likely 1150-1350 with that GPA, depending on the high school

Not op but What if 4.1 paired with a 1530 SAT with top stem. rigor?

[Anonymous]

JMU is good enough, just transfer after two years.

OR

She can apply to Pitt anytime and get OOS merit aid (Admissions Process For First-Year Students The University Of Pittsburgh operates on a rolling admission policy, which means that for our first-year students and undergraduate programs, there's no set deadline for applying to Pitt).