Rejected from Virginia publics—am I out of line?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My white-Asian kid with an Asian last name, who wrote of his ethnic background in his personal statement, was accepted from Maryland to W&M, dual degree programme with St Andrews, International Relations major. He had a 4.6 wGPA and a 35 out of 36 on his ACT.

I think it's the stats, not the last name, OP.

Look, I think the OP is overreacting, but you can't compare boy and girl stats. It is much easier for boys to get into college. There are significantly more girl applicants.

This is wrong as a general statement. At UVA for example, in 2024 the admit rate for boys and girls was about the same, ie it was about as difficult for a boy to get admitted as a girl.

Yep. DCUM posters talk out of their a$$es constantly, even when the actual data is a 15 second Google search away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My white-Asian kid with an Asian last name, who wrote of his ethnic background in his personal statement, was accepted from Maryland to W&M, dual degree programme with St Andrews, International Relations major. He had a 4.6 wGPA and a 35 out of 36 on his ACT.

I think it's the stats, not the last name, OP.

Look, I think the OP is overreacting, but you can't compare boy and girl stats. It is much easier for boys to get into college. There are significantly more girl applicants.

This is wrong as a general statement. At UVA for example, in 2024 the admit rate for boys and girls was about the same, ie it was about as difficult for a boy to get admitted as a girl.

Yep. DCUM posters talk out of their a$$es constantly, even when the actual data is a 15 second Google search away.

+ 1. I used to try to point out the numbers but the misconception is ubiquitous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My white-Asian kid with an Asian last name, who wrote of his ethnic background in his personal statement, was accepted from Maryland to W&M, dual degree programme with St Andrews, International Relations major. He had a 4.6 wGPA and a 35 out of 36 on his ACT.

I think it's the stats, not the last name, OP.

Look, I think the OP is overreacting, but you can't compare boy and girl stats. It is much easier for boys to get into college. There are significantly more girl applicants.

This is wrong as a general statement. At UVA for example, in 2024 the admit rate for boys and girls was about the same, ie it was about as difficult for a boy to get admitted as a girl.

NP. How about average stats by gender?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My white-Asian kid with an Asian last name, who wrote of his ethnic background in his personal statement, was accepted from Maryland to W&M, dual degree programme with St Andrews, International Relations major. He had a 4.6 wGPA and a 35 out of 36 on his ACT.

I think it's the stats, not the last name, OP.

Look, I think the OP is overreacting, but you can't compare boy and girl stats. It is much easier for boys to get into college. There are significantly more girl applicants.

This is wrong as a general statement. At UVA for example, in 2024 the admit rate for boys and girls was about the same, ie it was about as difficult for a boy to get admitted as a girl.

NP. How about average stats by gender?

Now THAT would be useful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My white-Asian kid with an Asian last name, who wrote of his ethnic background in his personal statement, was accepted from Maryland to W&M, dual degree programme with St Andrews, International Relations major. He had a 4.6 wGPA and a 35 out of 36 on his ACT.

I think it's the stats, not the last name, OP.

Look, I think the OP is overreacting, but you can't compare boy and girl stats. It is much easier for boys to get into college. There are significantly more girl applicants.

This is wrong as a general statement. At UVA for example, in 2024 the admit rate for boys and girls was about the same, ie it was about as difficult for a boy to get admitted as a girl.

NP. How about average stats by gender?

No college provides that information as far as I know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:4.1 weighted (school does not do UW), maxed out rigor, and involved in activities. Applied as an IR/gov/polisci major to UVA, William and Mary, and Virginia tech and was outright denied by UVA and W&M. VT waitlisted but as far as I know they have no ‘spring waitlist’ program or separate campus like UVA wise you can go to for a year instead.

The only thing I can think of that could be the cause of this is my daughter’s name, which sounds Asian American despite her being Caucasian. Her first name is a name that some people have said is a stereotypical Asian name (think Alice or Christina), and our last name is Lee, which could be either white or Asian Korean.

In our case, it’s white, but people have said in the past when they have seen my daughter’s name but not my daughter (at first meetings, summer camp, etc) that they were expecting an Asian girl based on her name.

My husband thinks I sound like I need to be medicated, but I floated the idea of taking a gap year and changing either my daughter’s first or last name to be more explicitly Caucasian. She was open to it and is very young for her cohort anyway so it wouldn’t make her feel out of place later.

Am I out of line here? I’m not saying that it’s right that there may be a disadvantage for Asian Americans, but I don’t want my daughter to be harmed by any sort of biases.

Did she at least get in some good privates? JHU? Rice? Emory? Vandy? and top liberal arts colleges?

OP here.

My husband has more than 700,000 in non-primary home assets that are tied up for at least the next 5 years due to a death in the family. We can’t use the money and we can’t store it somewhere colleges wouldn’t see/count it against us. So it’s either in state or sacrifice quality because we aren’t getting need based or probably merit based aid.

Have her study for a 36 and enjoy her merit money at Bama

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agree Asians are held to a higher standard. Many anglicize their last names to sound white.

…how? Radhakrishnan or Hyeongsuk to Johnson or Smith isn’t what I would call anglicizing. ATP it’s fraud.

It's not fraud if you legally change your name.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My white-Asian kid with an Asian last name, who wrote of his ethnic background in his personal statement, was accepted from Maryland to W&M, dual degree programme with St Andrews, International Relations major. He had a 4.6 wGPA and a 35 out of 36 on his ACT.

I think it's the stats, not the last name, OP.

Look, I think the OP is overreacting, but you can't compare boy and girl stats. It is much easier for boys to get into college. There are significantly more girl applicants.

This is wrong as a general statement. At UVA for example, in 2024 the admit rate for boys and girls was about the same, ie it was about as difficult for a boy to get admitted as a girl.

NP. How about average stats by gender?

Now THAT would be useful.

Yea because you just have this gut feeling that there’s something fishy going on, eh?

[Anonymous]

My last name is Lee, and I am chinese (cantonese)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:😆😆😆😆 You do realize being white or Asian is both a disadvantage?

OP here.

My husband said exactly this (are you him, ha!) and I’ll tell you what I told him.

If you look at all the data that has been released, it’s clear that Asians are at more of a disadvantage than whites. The magnitude varies, but it’s always greater than whites.

You're Asian, not white. Do you think we're idiots?

OP here. Why would I post this if I was Asian?

NP. I am a white American, last name Lee. Everyone assumes I will be Asian. I had a driver refuse to pick me up once because he didn't believe I could be a Lee.

Nobody remembers Robert E Lee in the DMV? How ironic.

Was he Korean or Chinese?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My white-Asian kid with an Asian last name, who wrote of his ethnic background in his personal statement, was accepted from Maryland to W&M, dual degree programme with St Andrews, International Relations major. He had a 4.6 wGPA and a 35 out of 36 on his ACT.

I think it's the stats, not the last name, OP.

Look, I think the OP is overreacting, but you can't compare boy and girl stats. It is much easier for boys to get into college. There are significantly more girl applicants.

This is wrong as a general statement. At UVA for example, in 2024 the admit rate for boys and girls was about the same, ie it was about as difficult for a boy to get admitted as a girl.

NP. How about average stats by gender?

Now THAT would be useful.

Yea because you just have this gut feeling that there’s something fishy going on, eh?

It’d be relevant data to use if we wanted to understand if there is any gender discrimination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4.1 weighted (school does not do UW), maxed out rigor, and involved in activities. Applied as an IR/gov/polisci major to UVA, William and Mary, and Virginia tech and was outright denied by UVA and W&M. VT waitlisted but as far as I know they have no ‘spring waitlist’ program or separate campus like UVA wise you can go to for a year instead.

The only thing I can think of that could be the cause of this is my daughter’s name, which sounds Asian American despite her being Caucasian. Her first name is a name that some people have said is a stereotypical Asian name (think Alice or Christina), and our last name is Lee, which could be either white or Asian Korean.

In our case, it’s white, but people have said in the past when they have seen my daughter’s name but not my daughter (at first meetings, summer camp, etc) that they were expecting an Asian girl based on her name.

My husband thinks I sound like I need to be medicated, but I floated the idea of taking a gap year and changing either my daughter’s first or last name to be more explicitly Caucasian. She was open to it and is very young for her cohort anyway so it wouldn’t make her feel out of place later.

Am I out of line here? I’m not saying that it’s right that there may be a disadvantage for Asian Americans, but I don’t want my daughter to be harmed by any sort of biases.

Did she at least get in some good privates? JHU? Rice? Emory? Vandy? and top liberal arts colleges?

OP here.

My husband has more than 700,000 in non-primary home assets that are tied up for at least the next 5 years due to a death in the family. We can’t use the money and we can’t store it somewhere colleges wouldn’t see/count it against us. So it’s either in state or sacrifice quality because we aren’t getting need based or probably merit based aid.

Have her study for a 36 and enjoy her merit money at Bama

Gross

[Anonymous]

Gap year and then apply more widely - as pp's have said, merit at Case or other schools and tuition could be lower than in-state.

and/ or apply to GMU. no brainer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My white-Asian kid with an Asian last name, who wrote of his ethnic background in his personal statement, was accepted from Maryland to W&M, dual degree programme with St Andrews, International Relations major. He had a 4.6 wGPA and a 35 out of 36 on his ACT.

I think it's the stats, not the last name, OP.

Look, I think the OP is overreacting, but you can't compare boy and girl stats. It is much easier for boys to get into college. There are significantly more girl applicants.

This is wrong as a general statement. At UVA for example, in 2024 the admit rate for boys and girls was about the same, ie it was about as difficult for a boy to get admitted as a girl.

NP. How about average stats by gender?

Now THAT would be useful.

Yea because you just have this gut feeling that there’s something fishy going on, eh?

Admissions counselors for schools like MIT routinely explain that although they have a higher admit rate for women, they get more applications from underqualified men. That is, consistent with well-established social science findings that men are bigger risk-takers, underqualified women tend to take themselves out of the game, while underqualified men shoot their shot. If men who apply to UVA are similar to men in general, then, we should expect them to be overall less qualified than women who apply to UVA.

[Anonymous]

Have her go to community college and transfer to uva or wm. Problem solved.