JMU 2040 plan draft

[Anonymous]

You should all just be happy that we have an abundance of competitive public universities in our state.

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Anonymous wrote:JMU wants to be considered a peer of UVA and VT so badly. It’s embarrassing.

VT wants to be considered a peer of UVA so badly that it is embarrassing.

VT is closer to JMU than VT…my DS was accepted at both but not UVA and chose JMU btw…

Not long ago JMU wasn’t R1 and was FCS for football. VT achieved those milestones long before JMU. From a research and athletics standpoint, it’s not close.

Yet. VT won’t even play JMU in football because they can’t win. Give JMU 5-10 more years as a R1 and we shall see….

You’re in the sunbelt lol It’s actually because of changes to how the big conferences schedule, you clearly wouldn’t understand. Also, how’s PhD production going at JMU? Research VT PhD output and report back.

No one was happier than VT AD Whit Babcock(JMU alum) that the ACC gave him an off-ramp to weasel out of the JMU game. By all means, keep VMI on the schedule. HAHAHAHAHA!

As for PhDs, JMU concentrates on undergrad excellence. It’s why USNWR ranks JMU #22 for Best Undergrad Teaching, just ahead of Georgetown, but further ahead of UVA, Harvard, Berkeley and UCLA. Sadly VT didn’t make the list.

You can’t have it both ways. If you want to be a big boy, you’ll need to ramp up research and PhD production. As for football, I hope you like your FCS titles because you’ll never win one in the big leagues.

You can’t beat JMU. LOL! You know, the first VA school to make the CFP.

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Anonymous wrote:JMU wants to be considered a peer of UVA and VT so badly. It’s embarrassing.

VT wants to be considered a peer of UVA so badly that it is embarrassing.

VT is closer to JMU than VT…my DS was accepted at both but not UVA and chose JMU btw…

Not long ago JMU wasn’t R1 and was FCS for football. VT achieved those milestones long before JMU. From a research and athletics standpoint, it’s not close.

Yet. VT won’t even play JMU in football because they can’t win. Give JMU 5-10 more years as a R1 and we shall see….

You’re in the sunbelt lol It’s actually because of changes to how the big conferences schedule, you clearly wouldn’t understand. Also, how’s PhD production going at JMU? Research VT PhD output and report back.

No one was happier than VT AD Whit Babcock(JMU alum) that the ACC gave him an off-ramp to weasel out of the JMU game. By all means, keep VMI on the schedule. HAHAHAHAHA!

As for PhDs, JMU concentrates on undergrad excellence. It’s why USNWR ranks JMU #22 for Best Undergrad Teaching, just ahead of Georgetown, but further ahead of UVA, Harvard, Berkeley and UCLA. Sadly VT didn’t make the list.

There's a R1 VA school ranked #12 on that list that disproves that you can't have both undergrad excellence and higher PHD production/research.

VT can’t seem to manage that, though. They didn’t even make the list.

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Anonymous wrote:JMU wants to be considered a peer of UVA and VT so badly. It’s embarrassing.

VT wants to be considered a peer of UVA so badly that it is embarrassing.

VT is closer to JMU than VT…my DS was accepted at both but not UVA and chose JMU btw…

Not long ago JMU wasn’t R1 and was FCS for football. VT achieved those milestones long before JMU. From a research and athletics standpoint, it’s not close.

Yet. VT won’t even play JMU in football because they can’t win. Give JMU 5-10 more years as a R1 and we shall see….

You’re in the sunbelt lol It’s actually because of changes to how the big conferences schedule, you clearly wouldn’t understand. Also, how’s PhD production going at JMU? Research VT PhD output and report back.

No one was happier than VT AD Whit Babcock(JMU alum) that the ACC gave him an off-ramp to weasel out of the JMU game. By all means, keep VMI on the schedule. HAHAHAHAHA!

As for PhDs, JMU concentrates on undergrad excellence. It’s why USNWR ranks JMU #22 for Best Undergrad Teaching, just ahead of Georgetown, but further ahead of UVA, Harvard, Berkeley and UCLA. Sadly VT didn’t make the list.

There's a R1 VA school ranked #12 on that list that disproves that you can't have both undergrad excellence and higher PHD production/research.

VT can’t seem to manage that, though. They didn’t even make the list.

VT has never prioritized the undergraduate experience in my opinion

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Anonymous wrote:JMU wants to be considered a peer of UVA and VT so badly. It’s embarrassing.

VT wants to be considered a peer of UVA so badly that it is embarrassing.

VT is closer to JMU than VT…my DS was accepted at both but not UVA and chose JMU btw…

Not long ago JMU wasn’t R1 and was FCS for football. VT achieved those milestones long before JMU. From a research and athletics standpoint, it’s not close.

Yet. VT won’t even play JMU in football because they can’t win. Give JMU 5-10 more years as a R1 and we shall see….

You’re in the sunbelt lol It’s actually because of changes to how the big conferences schedule, you clearly wouldn’t understand. Also, how’s PhD production going at JMU? Research VT PhD output and report back.

No one was happier than VT AD Whit Babcock(JMU alum) that the ACC gave him an off-ramp to weasel out of the JMU game. By all means, keep VMI on the schedule. HAHAHAHAHA!

As for PhDs, JMU concentrates on undergrad excellence. It’s why USNWR ranks JMU #22 for Best Undergrad Teaching, just ahead of Georgetown, but further ahead of UVA, Harvard, Berkeley and UCLA. Sadly VT didn’t make the list.

There's a R1 VA school ranked #12 on that list that disproves that you can't have both undergrad excellence and higher PHD production/research.

VT can’t seem to manage that, though. They didn’t even make the list.

VT has never prioritized the undergraduate experience in my opinion

Ouch. Okay then. I guess USWNR figured that out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Increase the on-campus housing capacity to at least 60% of the student body.

That’s a lot of revenue they’ll recapture and will bring down off campus housing prices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JMU wants to be considered a peer of UVA and VT so badly. It’s embarrassing.

VT wants to be considered a peer of UVA so badly that it is embarrassing.

VT is closer to JMU than VT…my DS was accepted at both but not UVA and chose JMU btw…

Not long ago JMU wasn’t R1 and was FCS for football. VT achieved those milestones long before JMU. From a research and athletics standpoint, it’s not close.

Yet. VT won’t even play JMU in football because they can’t win. Give JMU 5-10 more years as a R1 and we shall see….

You’re in the sunbelt lol It’s actually because of changes to how the big conferences schedule, you clearly wouldn’t understand. Also, how’s PhD production going at JMU? Research VT PhD output and report back.

No one was happier than VT AD Whit Babcock(JMU alum) that the ACC gave him an off-ramp to weasel out of the JMU game. By all means, keep VMI on the schedule. HAHAHAHAHA!

As for PhDs, JMU concentrates on undergrad excellence. It’s why USNWR ranks JMU #22 for Best Undergrad Teaching, just ahead of Georgetown, but further ahead of UVA, Harvard, Berkeley and UCLA. Sadly VT didn’t make the list.

You can’t have it both ways. If you want to be a big boy, you’ll need to ramp up research and PhD production. As for football, I hope you like your FCS titles because you’ll never win one in the big leagues.

You can’t beat JMU. LOL! You know, the first VA school to make the CFP.

Okay. Have fun in the ACC when UVA/VT leave for the B10/SEC and split away from the NCAA.

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Anonymous wrote:Increase the on-campus housing capacity to at least 60% of the student body.

That’s a lot of revenue they’ll recapture and will bring down off campus housing prices.

If people are actually willing to move back on campus after a decades long culture of expecting to move off after freshman year.

[Anonymous]

WM is a research school? Since when?

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Anonymous wrote:WM is a research school? Since when?

It won R1 status I think last year. They spend nearly 90 million a year in research expenditures

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Increase the on-campus housing capacity to at least 60% of the student body.

That’s a lot of revenue they’ll recapture and will bring down off campus housing prices.

If people are actually willing to move back on campus after a decades long culture of expecting to move off after freshman year.

They just changed the housing requirement to 3 years at my DC’s school and built a lot of new dorms. The kids were annoyed, but it really does build community by requiring on campus housing. It also brings down housing costs for off campus rentals. I think it is great.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Increase the on-campus housing capacity to at least 60% of the student body.

That’s a lot of revenue they’ll recapture and will bring down off campus housing prices.

If people are actually willing to move back on campus after a decades long culture of expecting to move off after freshman year.

They just changed the housing requirement to 3 years at my DC’s school and built a lot of new dorms. The kids were annoyed, but it really does build community by requiring on campus housing. It also brings down housing costs for off campus rentals. I think it is great.

Interesting. I agree it’s a good thing but let’s be honest, kids go to JMU to party, not sing songs around the fireplace in the dorm. Being off campus allows underage kids to more easily party.

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Anonymous wrote:This is how I see the next 5-10 years...

1. UVA will continue to be UVA

2. WM will be the go to for smart kids who want a smaller liberal arts feel college experience

3. VT will be the top choice for STEM majors (obviously, also UVA)

4. JMU will be in a power 4 conference (plans are already underway) and will be the top choice for Health Sciences/Business (obviously also UVA); JMU is already rated top 25 for undergraduate teaching and knows its needs to build up its graduate programs and research which their plan for 2040 is addressing...

I don't understand why some of the VT crowd is so pressed over the idea of JMU making plans to improve its programming, other than needing to feel superior to JMU, so VT is clearly inferior to UVA.

Oh...and VT has cancelled every scheduled football match up after losing to JMU....but keep saying it is because of the ACC schedule changes for next year....

STEM = Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics. I don't think VT is necessarily the top choice for the STM part and, depending on what the student wants, even the E.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Increase the on-campus housing capacity to at least 60% of the student body.

That’s a lot of revenue they’ll recapture and will bring down off campus housing prices.

If people are actually willing to move back on campus after a decades long culture of expecting to move off after freshman year.

They just changed the housing requirement to 3 years at my DC’s school and built a lot of new dorms. The kids were annoyed, but it really does build community by requiring on campus housing. It also brings down housing costs for off campus rentals. I think it is great.

Interesting. I agree it’s a good thing but let’s be honest, kids go to JMU to party, not sing songs around the fireplace in the dorm. Being off campus allows underage kids to more easily party.

Not good for businesses in town either. When you live on campus, you're not going to be spending tons of money on groceries and eating out. Great revenue generator for the school of course. And I'm skeptical of community in upperclassmen dorms just from some personal experiences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Increase the on-campus housing capacity to at least 60% of the student body.

That’s a lot of revenue they’ll recapture and will bring down off campus housing prices.

If people are actually willing to move back on campus after a decades long culture of expecting to move off after freshman year.

They just changed the housing requirement to 3 years at my DC’s school and built a lot of new dorms. The kids were annoyed, but it really does build community by requiring on campus housing. It also brings down housing costs for off campus rentals. I think it is great.

Interesting. I agree it’s a good thing but let’s be honest, kids go to JMU to party, not sing songs around the fireplace in the dorm. Being off campus allows underage kids to more easily party.

JMU is no more of a party school than UVA or VT; my kid has friends at all 3 and there is plenty of “fun” to be had if you want it at all 3

I know folks in northern VA really want JMU to be a “bad” school because of its higher acceptance rate but would you call Indiana a bad school? Just wondering….

JMU has excellent undergraduate teaching and excellent career outcomes so I don’t really understand the looking down at it

And by the sounds of it the plan is to be more selective than VT in the future which I 100% see happening

And the plan isn’t the ACC IYKYK….also trying to pair VT athletics with UVA is laughable