Why racial segregation is unacceptable but socioeconomic segregation is ok in private schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am new to dc and I noticed the stark difference between the two types of segregation. Private schools are happy if they are racially diverse, but not so happy to be diverse in terms of socioeconomic groups. If find this attitude a bit schizophrenic. Do you think this is ok?

Yes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am new to dc and I noticed the stark difference between the two types of segregation. Private schools are happy if they are racially diverse, but not so happy to be diverse in terms of socioeconomic groups. If find this attitude a bit schizophrenic. Do you think this is ok?

I don’t try to dictate how other people spend their money. So yeah, I think it is fine. They are private schools.

Now let’s talk about public schools, where as a taxpayer, I should have a say. Why aren’t you complaining about the rich vs the poor public schools? Look at any of the DC or close in suburbs. Let’s take Arlington. There is a stark difference between the wealthiest and poorest schools.

Socioeconomic segregation is fine for private schools but it is only bad for public schools. It totally makes sense.

Agree. I’d rather (myself and others) spend their money on education than on supporting megalomaniacs like Musk or not spending it and hoarding it for themselves. Curious what other people want rich people to spend on?

And before you say charity- think about your own hypocrisy. Do you donate everything to live like a pauper or do you spend on extracurriculars and tutoring for your children. And keep in mind we pay much more in taxes and probably donate more to charity. At least I do - about 200k/yr.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am new to dc and I noticed the stark difference between the two types of segregation. Private schools are happy if they are racially diverse, but not so happy to be diverse in terms of socioeconomic groups. If find this attitude a bit schizophrenic. Do you think this is ok?

I don’t try to dictate how other people spend their money. So yeah, I think it is fine. They are private schools.

Now let’s talk about public schools, where as a taxpayer, I should have a say. Why aren’t you complaining about the rich vs the poor public schools? Look at any of the DC or close in suburbs. Let’s take Arlington. There is a stark difference between the wealthiest and poorest schools.

Socioeconomic segregation is fine for private schools but it is only bad for public schools. It totally makes sense.

So you aren’t actually concerned about this as a problem for society? You are just here to stir the pot? Got it.

You don’t care about wealth inequality and how to create a more just and equitable society. You care about debating private school parents who obviously (as evidenced by their actions) are not in the least bit concerned by this. Bad faith.

The problem is the wealth disparity not the education. You sound thick.

Very few people leave all their money to charity when they die. Will you? Those are the people who are trying to help solve the wealth disparity. Others are just shouting from a soap box out of jealousy, which is a good look on no one

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am new to dc and I noticed the stark difference between the two types of segregation. Private schools are happy if they are racially diverse, but not so happy to be diverse in terms of socioeconomic groups. If find this attitude a bit schizophrenic. Do you think this is ok?

I don’t try to dictate how other people spend their money. So yeah, I think it is fine. They are private schools.

Now let’s talk about public schools, where as a taxpayer, I should have a say. Why aren’t you complaining about the rich vs the poor public schools? Look at any of the DC or close in suburbs. Let’s take Arlington. There is a stark difference between the wealthiest and poorest schools.

Arlington literally has a dividing line.

It used to. Not so much anymore.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it hypocritical to have a racially diverse student body that is disproportionately wealthy?

No. It’s to be expected. Does it state anywhere that people pretend to want SES mixing? Isn’t that why people move to “good” public schools too - with neighborhoods that are relatively homogenous? We all want better education for our children and pay in one way or another to get it.

Hypocrisy is the act of pretending to have beliefs, virtues, or feelings that one does not actually possess, often characterized by behavior that contradicts stated principles. It involves insincerity, such as condemning a behavior in others while practicing it oneself. Examples include people moving to public school for higher SES diversity but that school only drawing from a wealthy catchment area.

Who is the real hypocrite?

Such as a $60k school stating on its website that it seeks to make sure that diversity, social justice, and inclusivity are foundational principles. Just delete this language. It’s so obviously performative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You could suggest that private schools provide more financial aid for lower SES families, to include full tuition, and not provide financial aid for families making $250,000 in the area. The financial aid money could be used to support fewer students but students that would increase the SES diversity at the schools.

How many topics in this forum are focused on the question of who gets financial aid and why is that money going to families that are making a good amount of money. They should be able to afford the price tag, even if they have to sacrifice a new car or going on expensive vacations.

Because every black person wants to be seen as th token scholarship kid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually think the private schools have too much socioeconomic diversity. Their annual financial aid budgets are enormous and there is very little return on these funds.

It would be smart for them to decrease the financial aid budgets and spend that money elsewhere such as academic programming or new facilities that benefits the students.

Yes, yes, and yes!! I make sacrifices to send my kids to a better school with no financial aid and people barely making less than me are getting financial aid. It’s ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course it's not okay, and the people defending it are disgusting. However and unfortunately, it's still socially acceptable to discriminate based on income and education.

Yes, yet we all make Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos richer and support our capitalist country and freedom. It’s ridiculous to turn kids into better adults. Damn us all for trying!

Go back to your Amazon order or social media post now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am new to dc and I noticed the stark difference between the two types of segregation. Private schools are happy if they are racially diverse, but not so happy to be diverse in terms of socioeconomic groups. If find this attitude a bit schizophrenic. Do you think this is ok?

I don’t try to dictate how other people spend their money. So yeah, I think it is fine. They are private schools.

Now let’s talk about public schools, where as a taxpayer, I should have a say. Why aren’t you complaining about the rich vs the poor public schools? Look at any of the DC or close in suburbs. Let’s take Arlington. There is a stark difference between the wealthiest and poorest schools.

Arlington literally has a dividing line.

Amongst which kids are segregated. Plus look at all the advanced programs dominated my the wealthier kids - why aren’t you focused on changing that!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually think the private schools have too much socioeconomic diversity. Their annual financial aid budgets are enormous and there is very little return on these funds.

It would be smart for them to decrease the financial aid budgets and spend that money elsewhere such as academic programming or new facilities that benefits the students.

I 100% disagree.

Of course, you probably depend on financial aid handouts. The grift of financial aid is real. People argue about inequality when they really just want other people’s money.

You already have access to public education but you want to turn that down so wealthy donors can pay for you to attend a country club type of school instead. Got it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am new to dc and I noticed the stark difference between the two types of segregation. Private schools are happy if they are racially diverse, but not so happy to be diverse in terms of socioeconomic groups. If find this attitude a bit schizophrenic. Do you think this is ok?

I don’t try to dictate how other people spend their money. So yeah, I think it is fine. They are private schools.

Now let’s talk about public schools, where as a taxpayer, I should have a say. Why aren’t you complaining about the rich vs the poor public schools? Look at any of the DC or close in suburbs. Let’s take Arlington. There is a stark difference between the wealthiest and poorest schools.

Arlington literally has a dividing line.

Amongst which kids are segregated. Plus look at all the advanced programs dominated my the wealthier kids - why aren’t you focused on changing that!

Because this is the privates forum. But nice attempt at deflection to avoid self-reflection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aren’t the whole point of private schools so people can avoid a certain kind of kid? Of course racial diversity can be “acceptable” if that kid can fit into a certain mold… but many private school parents send their kids to avoid a specific type of kid (most always from a very poor background and likely abusive home). People openly admit this on DCUM because it’s anonymous. People threaten to move all the time to escape specific schools that have a lot of at risk kids. The annoying part of all of it are the people who claim to care about equity and equality and virtue signal about it but then don’t walk the walk. I know too many of them.

Many of us don’t virtue signal.

Yes, OP, it’s fine with me. If a poor kid gets a scholarship and has to work to maintain that with grades and behavior, then we are happy to have them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Religious schools are also an acceptable form of segregation.

These are mostly private so obviously are included in the discussion. Let’s talk about churches - religion is HUGELY segregated! No one complains about that! Why can’t I be considered a real Jew because my mother was Islamic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am new to dc and I noticed the stark difference between the two types of segregation. Private schools are happy if they are racially diverse, but not so happy to be diverse in terms of socioeconomic groups. If find this attitude a bit schizophrenic. Do you think this is ok?

I think it’s great. There is enough diversity with scholarships and other things like that given to particularly meritorious students. This is how it should be. I live in an extremely expensive area with high-end real estate, but our local MCPS high school is a disaster because you simply cannot keep out lower income families where the kids have real behavioral issues. It’s very scary, there is violence, shootings, kids with ankle monitoring bands and more. This is not good for the kids. And although my kids are not being raised in a bubble, I like that most of their friends can have similar lifestyle to them and aspire to the same type of lives as grown-ups. People in this country really underestimate how mixing up so economic diversity is also difficult for the kids. We need to stop using kids social experiments and aspire to better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Aren’t the whole point of private schools so people can avoid a certain kind of kid? Of course racial diversity can be “acceptable” if that kid can fit into a certain mold… but many private school parents send their kids to avoid a specific type of kid (most always from a very poor background and likely abusive home). People openly admit this on DCUM because it’s anonymous. People threaten to move all the time to escape specific schools that have a lot of at risk kids. The annoying part of all of it are the people who claim to care about equity and equality and virtue signal about it but then don’t walk the walk. I know too many of them.

Many of us don’t virtue signal.

Yes, OP, it’s fine with me. If a poor kid gets a scholarship and has to work to maintain that with grades and behavior, then we are happy to have them.

Same here. Everybody has to have skin in the game. Kids who have nothing to lose and know they have no future will sink your kid if you let them. I’m sorry, but I don’t need to do that under the guise of false virtue signaling and equity.