There goes our spring break in Dubai

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I don't have any sympathy for non-diplomatic families, non-relatives, who go to Dubai or anywhere else in that region. These are autocratic countries, built on current, not former, slave immigrant labor, with a piss-poor record for treating women of their own nations like secondary citizens.





Slave immigrant labor? Who do you think washes your dishes, slaughters the chickens you eat, picks your avocados, and rakes your leaves? Get a grip lady. What a hypocrite!


The imported working class in Dubai is nothing like the immigrants in the US. The suffering by workers in Dubai is horrific. And your tourism supports that.

I’m always baffled by the Dcumlandia Faux-activists who pontificate about DEI and equality in the USA but brag about their vacations to places like Dubai where human rights simply aren’t “a thing.”


The point is, neither place is great. Human rights aren’t really a thing in the USA either. We treat immigrants despicably. So there’s really no difference whether you go to Vegas or Dubai honestly.


You can't seriously think immigrants in the US are treated as poorly as those in Dubai.
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I assumed the OP was satire mocking people talking about Mexico..
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I don't have any sympathy for non-diplomatic families, non-relatives, who go to Dubai or anywhere else in that region. These are autocratic countries, built on current, not former, slave immigrant labor, with a piss-poor record for treating women of their own nations like secondary citizens.





Slave immigrant labor? Who do you think washes your dishes, slaughters the chickens you eat, picks your avocados, and rakes your leaves? Get a grip lady. What a hypocrite!


The imported working class in Dubai is nothing like the immigrants in the US. The suffering by workers in Dubai is horrific. And your tourism supports that.

I’m always baffled by the Dcumlandia Faux-activists who pontificate about DEI and equality in the USA but brag about their vacations to places like Dubai where human rights simply aren’t “a thing.”


The point is, neither place is great. Human rights aren’t really a thing in the USA either. We treat immigrants despicably. So there’s really no difference whether you go to Vegas or Dubai honestly.


You can't seriously think immigrants in the US are treated as poorly as those in Dubai.


Actually, in some ways, they are treated better in Dubai. They are given visas and have legal work authorization, and are not forced to work under the table illegally, always subject to constant fear and deportation. They are treated more humanely in the Gulf, even if expected to work long hours.
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I don't have any sympathy for non-diplomatic families, non-relatives, who go to Dubai or anywhere else in that region. These are autocratic countries, built on current, not former, slave immigrant labor, with a piss-poor record for treating women of their own nations like secondary citizens.





Slave immigrant labor? Who do you think washes your dishes, slaughters the chickens you eat, picks your avocados, and rakes your leaves? Get a grip lady. What a hypocrite!


The imported working class in Dubai is nothing like the immigrants in the US. The suffering by workers in Dubai is horrific. And your tourism supports that.

I’m always baffled by the Dcumlandia Faux-activists who pontificate about DEI and equality in the USA but brag about their vacations to places like Dubai where human rights simply aren’t “a thing.”


The point is, neither place is great. Human rights aren’t really a thing in the USA either. We treat immigrants despicably. So there’s really no difference whether you go to Vegas or Dubai honestly.


You can't seriously think immigrants in the US are treated as poorly as those in Dubai.


Actually, in some ways, they are treated better in Dubai. They are given visas and have legal work authorization, and are not forced to work under the table illegally, always subject to constant fear and deportation. They are treated more humanely in the Gulf, even if expected to work long hours.


^^granted, I wouldn’t want to work in construction or manual labor in Dubai (not that those occupations are great for illegal immigrants in the US either), but working in a shop or restaurant wouldn’t be so bad, and would come with more rights than an illegal immigrant has in the US.
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I don't have any sympathy for non-diplomatic families, non-relatives, who go to Dubai or anywhere else in that region. These are autocratic countries, built on current, not former, slave immigrant labor, with a piss-poor record for treating women of their own nations like secondary citizens.





Slave immigrant labor? Who do you think washes your dishes, slaughters the chickens you eat, picks your avocados, and rakes your leaves? Get a grip lady. What a hypocrite!


The imported working class in Dubai is nothing like the immigrants in the US. The suffering by workers in Dubai is horrific. And your tourism supports that.

I’m always baffled by the Dcumlandia Faux-activists who pontificate about DEI and equality in the USA but brag about their vacations to places like Dubai where human rights simply aren’t “a thing.”


The point is, neither place is great. Human rights aren’t really a thing in the USA either. We treat immigrants despicably. So there’s really no difference whether you go to Vegas or Dubai honestly.


You can't seriously think immigrants in the US are treated as poorly as those in Dubai.


Actually, in some ways, they are treated better in Dubai. They are given visas and have legal work authorization, and are not forced to work under the table illegally, always subject to constant fear and deportation. They are treated more humanely in the Gulf, even if expected to work long hours.


^^granted, I wouldn’t want to work in construction or manual labor in Dubai (not that those occupations are great for illegal immigrants in the US either), but working in a shop or restaurant wouldn’t be so bad, and would come with more rights than an illegal immigrant has in the US.


Illegal migrants have way more rights in the US than legal migrants in the UAE. Whether you are a low paid Indian construction worker or midwage Filipino store clerk or maid, or a highly paid Western or Arab expat, you have no rights. None at all. Your visa can be terminated at any moment and you ordered to leave the country the same day. All expats, the 90%+ of the UAE population, are disposable and temporary, there is no such thing as a permanent visa. There is no appeal, there is no multiple shopping around via multiple appeals for sympathetic judges aka Kilmar Abrego Garcia. The UAE's rule is simple, follow the law, do not challenge it, accept the superiority of the Emiratis, and you will be left alone (as long as you have a legal working visa). And guess what, it works. It is far less hypocritical than the American system (like the Kilmar situation, a judge upholding the deportation order but adding a clause it can't be to his home country. Which made a sheer mockery of the ruling and laws).

Like most people posting on this thread, you know nothing about the UAE and are only twisting the realities to fit your personal political narrative.
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Seriously, OP? WWIII might be starting and you're whining about your precious little vacation?! Go to Europe or a beach instead.
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I don't have any sympathy for non-diplomatic families, non-relatives, who go to Dubai or anywhere else in that region. These are autocratic countries, built on current, not former, slave immigrant labor, with a piss-poor record for treating women of their own nations like secondary citizens.





Slave immigrant labor? Who do you think washes your dishes, slaughters the chickens you eat, picks your avocados, and rakes your leaves? Get a grip lady. What a hypocrite!


The imported working class in Dubai is nothing like the immigrants in the US. The suffering by workers in Dubai is horrific. And your tourism supports that.

I’m always baffled by the Dcumlandia Faux-activists who pontificate about DEI and equality in the USA but brag about their vacations to places like Dubai where human rights simply aren’t “a thing.”


The point is, neither place is great. Human rights aren’t really a thing in the USA either. We treat immigrants despicably. So there’s really no difference whether you go to Vegas or Dubai honestly.


You can't seriously think immigrants in the US are treated as poorly as those in Dubai.


Actually, in some ways, they are treated better in Dubai. They are given visas and have legal work authorization, and are not forced to work under the table illegally, always subject to constant fear and deportation. They are treated more humanely in the Gulf, even if expected to work long hours.


^^granted, I wouldn’t want to work in construction or manual labor in Dubai (not that those occupations are great for illegal immigrants in the US either), but working in a shop or restaurant wouldn’t be so bad, and would come with more rights than an illegal immigrant has in the US.


Illegal migrants have way more rights in the US than legal migrants in the UAE. Whether you are a low paid Indian construction worker or midwage Filipino store clerk or maid, or a highly paid Western or Arab expat, you have no rights. None at all. Your visa can be terminated at any moment and you ordered to leave the country the same day. All expats, the 90%+ of the UAE population, are disposable and temporary, there is no such thing as a permanent visa. There is no appeal, there is no multiple shopping around via multiple appeals for sympathetic judges aka Kilmar Abrego Garcia. The UAE's rule is simple, follow the law, do not challenge it, accept the superiority of the Emiratis, and you will be left alone (as long as you have a legal working visa). And guess what, it works. It is far less hypocritical than the American system (like the Kilmar situation, a judge upholding the deportation order but adding a clause it can't be to his home country. Which made a sheer mockery of the ruling and laws).

Like most people posting on this thread, you know nothing about the UAE and are only twisting the realities to fit your personal political narrative.


I don’t dispute your characterization of the UAE, but please tell me, what rights do illegal immigrants have in the USA? None at all! They are subject to being rounded up and deported at any time. At least in the UAE, workers are in the country legally, have visas (even if they can be easily terminated), and do not have to fear deportation on any given day. And I have spent time in the Gulf, including UAE. Have you?
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They hit the Fairmont the palm beach hotel in Dubai.
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Anonymous wrote:Slave immigrant labor? Who do you think washes your dishes, slaughters the chickens you eat, picks your avocados, and rakes your leaves? Get a grip lady. What a hypocrite!


I pay immigrants. I don't confiscate their passports.



Your country puts them in cages and then ships them off to concentration camps in third world countries. You’re such a fool.
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Theme parks, resorts, beaches, desert safari, water parks, jet skiing, they even have an indoor ski resort, the food is awesome, nightlife, architecture


And I bet you're also someone who usually frowns on extremism, dictatorships, and would never vote for Trump. You pay lip service to civil rights and women's rights, but all that goes out of the window for the - checks notes - theme parks, resorts, beaches, safari, indoor skiiing, food and nightlife.



DP. Please post your grievances with Dubai. Be specific. Then we can compare and contrast with all of the other choices you make in your life, as well as - checks notes- your own country.


This is so unfounded it is ridiculous. Only liberals who support unfettered immigration are exploitative. (Even though the immigrants are largely free to make their own choices; and the people trafficking are also immigrants who you love to protect.)
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Anonymous wrote:
I don't have any sympathy for non-diplomatic families, non-relatives, who go to Dubai or anywhere else in that region. These are autocratic countries, built on current, not former, slave immigrant labor, with a piss-poor record for treating women of their own nations like secondary citizens.





Slave immigrant labor? Who do you think washes your dishes, slaughters the chickens you eat, picks your avocados, and rakes your leaves? Get a grip lady. What a hypocrite!


The imported working class in Dubai is nothing like the immigrants in the US. The suffering by workers in Dubai is horrific. And your tourism supports that.

I’m always baffled by the Dcumlandia Faux-activists who pontificate about DEI and equality in the USA but brag about their vacations to places like Dubai where human rights simply aren’t “a thing.”


Cite your sources for both of these claims.


https://cdn.walkfree.org/content/uploads/2023/11/14130735/gsi-country-study-uae.pdf

Google Dubai slavery and then google Dubai human trafficking.

It’s a known playground for human trafficking. Plus, ICYMI, women are treated badly in general…even the affluent ones who are married…because, ya know, religion.



The United States is ALSO a known playground for human trafficking. And treatment of women? Have you been living under a rock? Are you still wondering who this Epstein is that everyone has been fussing about?

How can you be so pathetically ignorant?
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Theme parks, resorts, beaches, desert safari, water parks, jet skiing, they even have an indoor ski resort, the food is awesome, nightlife, architecture


And I bet you're also someone who usually frowns on extremism, dictatorships, and would never vote for Trump. You pay lip service to civil rights and women's rights, but all that goes out of the window for the - checks notes - theme parks, resorts, beaches, safari, indoor skiiing, food and nightlife.



DP. Please post your grievances with Dubai. Be specific. Then we can compare and contrast with all of the other choices you make in your life, as well as - checks notes- your own country.


Sorry Whataboutism isn’t going to save your doomed vacation


In other words, you have no clue, and you’re outraged because someone of Facebook or YouTube or TikTok told you to be. Got it.


Deflection and Whataboutism is all you got. Enjoy the desert(?!) indoor(wtf) snow hill


And still no answers. Do some research today, then come back and pretend that you had an informed opinion all along. We’ll wait.
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Anonymous wrote:
I don't have any sympathy for non-diplomatic families, non-relatives, who go to Dubai or anywhere else in that region. These are autocratic countries, built on current, not former, slave immigrant labor, with a piss-poor record for treating women of their own nations like secondary citizens.





Slave immigrant labor? Who do you think washes your dishes, slaughters the chickens you eat, picks your avocados, and rakes your leaves? Get a grip lady. What a hypocrite!


The imported working class in Dubai is nothing like the immigrants in the US. The suffering by workers in Dubai is horrific. And your tourism supports that.

I’m always baffled by the Dcumlandia Faux-activists who pontificate about DEI and equality in the USA but brag about their vacations to places like Dubai where human rights simply aren’t “a thing.”


The point is, neither place is great. Human rights aren’t really a thing in the USA either. We treat immigrants despicably. So there’s really no difference whether you go to Vegas or Dubai honestly.


You can't seriously think immigrants in the US are treated as poorly as those in Dubai.


How poorly are they treated in Dubai?
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Theme parks, resorts, beaches, desert safari, water parks, jet skiing, they even have an indoor ski resort, the food is awesome, nightlife, architecture


And I bet you're also someone who usually frowns on extremism, dictatorships, and would never vote for Trump. You pay lip service to civil rights and women's rights, but all that goes out of the window for the - checks notes - theme parks, resorts, beaches, safari, indoor skiiing, food and nightlife.



DP. Please post your grievances with Dubai. Be specific. Then we can compare and contrast with all of the other choices you make in your life, as well as - checks notes- your own country.


This is so unfounded it is ridiculous. Only liberals who support unfettered immigration are exploitative. (Even though the immigrants are largely free to make their own choices; and the people trafficking are also immigrants who you love to protect.)


Sure, and conservatives like to throw black men in prison and use them as ACTUAL slave labor to this day. But they’re US citizens and not immigrants, so it’s all good, right?
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