Supreme Court rules Trump's emergency tariffs are illegal

[Anonymous]

Adam Kintzinger:

The best move for Trump would be to write checks to America for the tariff refund but then he has to admit we paid them

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My guess is that since the Supreme Court ruled it was illegal under these emergency act, but the trump administration is going to try and impose through other paths.

Correct, they’ve already said as much.

But that wouldn't save them from liability for how they were originally imposed.
Is it possible that courts would decide refunds are functionally impossible when balancing government burden against claims? Or that a special panel of judges would have to sort through refund demands?

[Anonymous]

In most normal governments, a ruling like this would force a replacement administration. If we had a functioning congress, Trump and his cabinet would be removed this afternoon.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CNN's Kristen Holmes reports that Trump blew up during a meeting after learning of the SCOTUS ruling on tariffs.

"He started ranting about the decision, not only calling it a disgrace, but started attacking the courts and at one point saying these effing courts, but using the actual language there"

If you watch the video clip, the reason it is a huge part of his economic agenda is because he uses it as a cudgel for personal gain.

https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3mfcjxwco762z

If only it had happened while Leavitt was doing her pitch on a day when Trump was in the room as well. Preferably bragging about the tariff income.

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Anonymous wrote:In most normal governments, a ruling like this would force a replacement administration. If we had a functioning congress, Trump and his cabinet would be removed this afternoon.

Well this will happen just in a different way. SCOTUS did Republicans a huge, massive favor by getting rid of tariffs. But it's just in Trump's nature to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

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Anonymous wrote:What's going to happen to those trade agreements? it's all because of tariff, now tariff is gone, I guess so are those agreements.

Yep. Countries and companies were pouring money into building factories etc in the USA to get lower tariffs. Now, the deals are off.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's going to happen to those trade agreements? it's all because of tariff, now tariff is gone, I guess so are those agreements.

Yep. Countries and companies were pouring money into building factories etc in the USA to get lower tariffs. Now, the deals are off.

I.e., they told Trump that they'd pour money into factories in order to get lower tariffs (but wouldn't actually follow through).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's going to happen to those trade agreements? it's all because of tariff, now tariff is gone, I guess so are those agreements.

Yep. Countries and companies were pouring money into building factories etc in the USA to get lower tariffs. Now, the deals are off.

LOL, no they weren't.

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So Trump illegally stole like a trillion dollars from Americans?

[Anonymous]

Oh goody! He’s going to have a tantrum live on air at 12:45!!
-ketchup warning system is announced as level one, hide all Heinz.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Adam Kintzinger:

The best move for Trump would be to write checks to America for the tariff refund but then he has to admit we paid them

Trumps $2,000 tariff checks would cost 450-600 billion. The tariffs tax has raised $287 billion - $12 billion per year for farmers(remember have to provide grain at below market prices for China). Trump’s tax cost Americans $1,000-1,700 per person per year.

Also the tax was paid by business and passed on to consumers. Consumer just paid the increase price. Only business may get the money back but Trump could make it extremely difficult to get the money- ie each business would have to sue the federal government, lots of red tape, delays, etc.

[Anonymous]

will MAGAs turn on SCOTUS now?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How are the foreign governments going to be reimbursed?

How am I going to be reimbursed?!

You don't have a claim against the government (probably). The importer paid the government. You paid the importer or customs broker. You need to take it up with them.

So will this be a giant windfall for UPS and FedEx who paid the tariffs and got reimbursed by their customers, and will now get reimbursed again the gov?

[Anonymous]

will MAGAs turn on SCOTUS now?

Irrelevant.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's going to happen to those trade agreements? it's all because of tariff, now tariff is gone, I guess so are those agreements.

Yep. Countries and companies were pouring money into building factories etc in the USA to get lower tariffs. Now, the deals are off.

Trump forced US car manufacturers to stop EV and battery manufacturing in the US. They have written off $50 billion in new manufacturing plants and the associated construction and manufacturing jobs. This kill US manufacturing in under a year.