Sewage Pouring into Potomac in MoCo

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Anonymous wrote:The Potomac river was already a lifeless cesspool before this happened, so environmental harm will be minimal because the river was already dead to begin with, thanks to five years of Trump pollution from his golf course.


That’s the sliver lining here - the river was already dead to begin with, so there’s no great loss of wildlife or animals.

Wow, what an ignorant statement. Yes, the Potomac was already polluted. But it’s far from dead. It’s home to countless fish and waterfowl, for example. Anyone hiking among the Potomac can see these critters.

Pollution and run-off from the Trump National Golf Course in Loudoun County killed all the fish and animals in the river in 2017. It’s been a dead river ever since. No fish, no life of any kind.


Why are you defending Trump?

+1. Finally, some science based facts on this thread.

This is absolutely untrue. I hate Trump and all things MAGA but I walk along the Potomac 3-4x a week on Windy Run in Arlington and see fish, birds and other wildlife every single time. I’ve been doing this for 15 years.

Of course it’s untrue. The PPs are either idiots or trolls (or both).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:STATE of EMERGENCY declared by Mayor Bowser!!!

DC is not a state.

So? And that's all you have to add to the discussion??

Fine. DC is now in a state of emergency. Now DC can apply for FEMA funding. However, DC doesn't own the waters of the Potomac or the pipe. Is DC applying for funding on behalf of DC Water?

The area where the spill is is entirely under federal control.

TIL the Potomac river is under federal jurisdiction.

Trump learned it today too!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not great but it's fine. It's not like you're drinking this. WSSC and DC Water are very well treated and your drinking water is still safe

It’s not fine - it’s a catastrophe for local ecosystems along the C£O canal and Potomac River …

However you are right that it is not affecting drinking water …

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Potomac river was already a lifeless cesspool before this happened, so environmental harm will be minimal because the river was already dead to begin with, thanks to five years of Trump pollution from his golf course.


That’s the sliver lining here - the river was already dead to begin with, so there’s no great loss of wildlife or animals.

Wow, what an ignorant statement. Yes, the Potomac was already polluted. But it’s far from dead. It’s home to countless fish and waterfowl, for example. Anyone hiking among the Potomac can see these critters.

Agree - I have walked on the canal near the sewerage spill most days for decades.

I see and enjoy a lot of local wild life and am heart broken for the nature in the affected area.

There are many types of birds (many migratory but not all) and I fear for them. Birds often in that area include great blue herons, egrets, ravens, owls, woodpeckers, seagulls, ducks, Canada geese, hawks, and more.

Other wild life that are often seen on the canal/ river include deer, foxes, otters, raccoons, coyotes, squirrels, chipmunks, turtles and more.

The canal and river trees are glorious (although challenged by invasive vines). I use the picture this app and have identified sycamores, river oaks, river birches, paw paw trees, American elms, tulip oaks, red maples, mulberry, dogwoods, Eastern redbuds, American Holly, American beech, sweet gum, black walnut trees, American beech and more.

The C&O Canal and river is a treasure trove of nature. Many volunteers spend many house tackling the invasive vines and plants. Many cyclists, pedestrians and runners enjoy the beauty every day. Prior to this many people fished on both the canal and river.

It is a unique national park and I hope it can recover quickly from this disaster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yuck. Environmentalalists are saying the sewage and the effects are being downplayed. Who will take action and get to the bottom of this?

Because DC Water is a government entity, everyone involved is going to get a pass, so don’t expect a lot of scrutiny. If this had been done by one of my private clients, they would be responding to a criminal investigation already and somebody would be reasonably likely to go to jail. But the government is allowed to be incompetent with impunity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Potomac river was already a lifeless cesspool before this happened, so environmental harm will be minimal because the river was already dead to begin with, thanks to five years of Trump pollution from his golf course.


That’s the sliver lining here - the river was already dead to begin with, so there’s no great loss of wildlife or animals.

Wow, what an ignorant statement. Yes, the Potomac was already polluted. But it’s far from dead. It’s home to countless fish and waterfowl, for example. Anyone hiking among the Potomac can see these critters.

Agree - I have walked on the canal near the sewerage spill most days for decades.

I see and enjoy a lot of local wild life and am heart broken for the nature in the affected area.

There are many types of birds (many migratory but not all) and I fear for them. Birds often in that area include great blue herons, egrets, ravens, owls, woodpeckers, seagulls, ducks, Canada geese, hawks, and more.

Other wild life that are often seen on the canal/ river include deer, foxes, otters, raccoons, coyotes, squirrels, chipmunks, turtles and more.

The canal and river trees are glorious (although challenged by invasive vines). I use the picture this app and have identified sycamores, river oaks, river birches, paw paw trees, American elms, tulip oaks, red maples, mulberry, dogwoods, Eastern redbuds, American Holly, American beech, sweet gum, black walnut trees, American beech and more.

The C&O Canal and river is a treasure trove of nature. Many volunteers spend many house tackling the invasive vines and plants. Many cyclists, pedestrians and runners enjoy the beauty every day. Prior to this many people fished on both the canal and river.

It is a unique national park and I hope it can recover quickly from this disaster.

All this may indeed have been the case prior to 2016-2017. But when Trump purchased the former Lowes Island Country Club and turned it into the “Trump National Golf Course” , there was a veritable flood of pesticides, insecticides, herbicides, sewage and soil run-off into the Potomac River due to the redevelopment of the golf course. He cut down over a hundred acres of riparian forest alongside the shoreline of the river to improve “the view”, and this resulted in massive amounts of soil erosion into the river. Millions of tons of silt from the golf course washed into the river during the renovation of the course, smothering and burying the entire bottom of the river and everything formerly living there. This silt wiped out the macro-invertebrates in the river that formed the base of the food web. Then, as the course was planted with invasive species of grass, the pesticides and insecticides used to maintain the exotic turf leached into the river and killed all the fish, as well as the birds that feed on them. Th e entire river ecosystem collapsed within a couple years of the golf course redevelopment, and by 2019, the river was largely dead and completely devoid of fish life. This would’ve been national news at the time, were it not for the covid pandemic which began in early 2020. As a result, the pollution of the Potomac River was forgotten about during the pandemic. It was one of the greatest environmental crimes ever committed in the history of this country, and was totally ignored at the time.

No one is disputing that the Potomac had abundant fish and other wildlife historically. But that ended by 2018.

Now the Potomac is basically a “ghost river”, which is the term used to describe formerly healthy and living rivers that have been extirpated of life.


So yes, it is indeed perversely fortunate that this spill happened when it did. Because the damage to the river had already been done, by Trump. He killed the Potomac in 2017.


This spill is basically nothing compared to what Trump did in 2017.


I’m not sure if you still live in the area? Perhaps you moved away prior to 2017, and remember what the Potomac USED to be like? But it hasn’t been like you described since 2019, at the latest. It’s all dead now.

https://grist.org/politics/pollution-is-now-coming-from-donald-trumps-golf-course-in-addition-to-his-mouth/

https://washingtonian.com/2016/03/30/donald-trumps-golf-course-continues-to-threaten-potomac-river/

https://abcnews.com/amp/Politics/trump-virginia-golf-cited-illegally-cutting-trees-protected/story?id=61531413

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Potomac river was already a lifeless cesspool before this happened, so environmental harm will be minimal because the river was already dead to begin with, thanks to five years of Trump pollution from his golf course.


That’s the sliver lining here - the river was already dead to begin with, so there’s no great loss of wildlife or animals.

Wow, what an ignorant statement. Yes, the Potomac was already polluted. But it’s far from dead. It’s home to countless fish and waterfowl, for example. Anyone hiking among the Potomac can see these critters.

Agree - I have walked on the canal near the sewerage spill most days for decades.

I see and enjoy a lot of local wild life and am heart broken for the nature in the affected area.

There are many types of birds (many migratory but not all) and I fear for them. Birds often in that area include great blue herons, egrets, ravens, owls, woodpeckers, seagulls, ducks, Canada geese, hawks, and more.

Other wild life that are often seen on the canal/ river include deer, foxes, otters, raccoons, coyotes, squirrels, chipmunks, turtles and more.

The canal and river trees are glorious (although challenged by invasive vines). I use the picture this app and have identified sycamores, river oaks, river birches, paw paw trees, American elms, tulip oaks, red maples, mulberry, dogwoods, Eastern redbuds, American Holly, American beech, sweet gum, black walnut trees, American beech and more.

The C&O Canal and river is a treasure trove of nature. Many volunteers spend many house tackling the invasive vines and plants. Many cyclists, pedestrians and runners enjoy the beauty every day. Prior to this many people fished on both the canal and river.

It is a unique national park and I hope it can recover quickly from this disaster.

All this may indeed have been the case prior to 2016-2017. But when Trump purchased the former Lowes Island Country Club and turned it into the “Trump National Golf Course” , there was a veritable flood of pesticides, insecticides, herbicides, sewage and soil run-off into the Potomac River due to the redevelopment of the golf course. He cut down over a hundred acres of riparian forest alongside the shoreline of the river to improve “the view”, and this resulted in massive amounts of soil erosion into the river. Millions of tons of silt from the golf course washed into the river during the renovation of the course, smothering and burying the entire bottom of the river and everything formerly living there. This silt wiped out the macro-invertebrates in the river that formed the base of the food web. Then, as the course was planted with invasive species of grass, the pesticides and insecticides used to maintain the exotic turf leached into the river and killed all the fish, as well as the birds that feed on them. Th e entire river ecosystem collapsed within a couple years of the golf course redevelopment, and by 2019, the river was largely dead and completely devoid of fish life. This would’ve been national news at the time, were it not for the covid pandemic which began in early 2020. As a result, the pollution of the Potomac River was forgotten about during the pandemic. It was one of the greatest environmental crimes ever committed in the history of this country, and was totally ignored at the time.

No one is disputing that the Potomac had abundant fish and other wildlife historically. But that ended by 2018.

Now the Potomac is basically a “ghost river”, which is the term used to describe formerly healthy and living rivers that have been extirpated of life.


So yes, it is indeed perversely fortunate that this spill happened when it did. Because the damage to the river had already been done, by Trump. He killed the Potomac in 2017.


This spill is basically nothing compared to what Trump did in 2017.


I’m not sure if you still live in the area? Perhaps you moved away prior to 2017, and remember what the Potomac USED to be like? But it hasn’t been like you described since 2019, at the latest. It’s all dead now.

https://grist.org/politics/pollution-is-now-coming-from-donald-trumps-golf-course-in-addition-to-his-mouth/

https://washingtonian.com/2016/03/30/donald-trumps-golf-course-continues-to-threaten-potomac-river/

https://abcnews.com/amp/Politics/trump-virginia-golf-cited-illegally-cutting-trees-protected/story?id=61531413

Yes I love very near the spill and in nor way is the river and canal a ghost river. The spill is a disaster and I would am devastated that the water protection act has been gutted. But there is still of lot of beautiful nature in the area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Potomac river was already a lifeless cesspool before this happened, so environmental harm will be minimal because the river was already dead to begin with, thanks to five years of Trump pollution from his golf course.


That’s the sliver lining here - the river was already dead to begin with, so there’s no great loss of wildlife or animals.

Wow, what an ignorant statement. Yes, the Potomac was already polluted. But it’s far from dead. It’s home to countless fish and waterfowl, for example. Anyone hiking among the Potomac can see these critters.

Agree - I have walked on the canal near the sewerage spill most days for decades.

I see and enjoy a lot of local wild life and am heart broken for the nature in the affected area.

There are many types of birds (many migratory but not all) and I fear for them. Birds often in that area include great blue herons, egrets, ravens, owls, woodpeckers, seagulls, ducks, Canada geese, hawks, and more.

Other wild life that are often seen on the canal/ river include deer, foxes, otters, raccoons, coyotes, squirrels, chipmunks, turtles and more.

The canal and river trees are glorious (although challenged by invasive vines). I use the picture this app and have identified sycamores, river oaks, river birches, paw paw trees, American elms, tulip oaks, red maples, mulberry, dogwoods, Eastern redbuds, American Holly, American beech, sweet gum, black walnut trees, American beech and more.

The C&O Canal and river is a treasure trove of nature. Many volunteers spend many house tackling the invasive vines and plants. Many cyclists, pedestrians and runners enjoy the beauty every day. Prior to this many people fished on both the canal and river.

It is a unique national park and I hope it can recover quickly from this disaster.

All this may indeed have been the case prior to 2016-2017. But when Trump purchased the former Lowes Island Country Club and turned it into the “Trump National Golf Course” , there was a veritable flood of pesticides, insecticides, herbicides, sewage and soil run-off into the Potomac River due to the redevelopment of the golf course. He cut down over a hundred acres of riparian forest alongside the shoreline of the river to improve “the view”, and this resulted in massive amounts of soil erosion into the river. Millions of tons of silt from the golf course washed into the river during the renovation of the course, smothering and burying the entire bottom of the river and everything formerly living there. This silt wiped out the macro-invertebrates in the river that formed the base of the food web. Then, as the course was planted with invasive species of grass, the pesticides and insecticides used to maintain the exotic turf leached into the river and killed all the fish, as well as the birds that feed on them. Th e entire river ecosystem collapsed within a couple years of the golf course redevelopment, and by 2019, the river was largely dead and completely devoid of fish life. This would’ve been national news at the time, were it not for the covid pandemic which began in early 2020. As a result, the pollution of the Potomac River was forgotten about during the pandemic. It was one of the greatest environmental crimes ever committed in the history of this country, and was totally ignored at the time.

No one is disputing that the Potomac had abundant fish and other wildlife historically. But that ended by 2018.

Now the Potomac is basically a “ghost river”, which is the term used to describe formerly healthy and living rivers that have been extirpated of life.


So yes, it is indeed perversely fortunate that this spill happened when it did. Because the damage to the river had already been done, by Trump. He killed the Potomac in 2017.


This spill is basically nothing compared to what Trump did in 2017.


I’m not sure if you still live in the area? Perhaps you moved away prior to 2017, and remember what the Potomac USED to be like? But it hasn’t been like you described since 2019, at the latest. It’s all dead now.

https://grist.org/politics/pollution-is-now-coming-from-donald-trumps-golf-course-in-addition-to-his-mouth/

https://washingtonian.com/2016/03/30/donald-trumps-golf-course-continues-to-threaten-potomac-river/

https://abcnews.com/amp/Politics/trump-virginia-golf-cited-illegally-cutting-trees-protected/story?id=61531413

Yes I love very near the spill and in nor way is the river and canal a ghost river. The spill is a disaster and I would am devastated that the water protection act has been gutted. But there is still of lot of beautiful nature in the area.

At this point it’s pretty clear that you are simply trying to defend Trump by alleging the Potomac isn’t dead from all the pollution from his golf course, as well continuing to hype this spill in order to use it as a vehicle to cast aspersions on Democratic leadership on both side of the river.


In short - you are simply a concern troll.


Goodbye.

[Anonymous]

Talk about failing up. This nitwit must have the worst C.V. in the munipal water industry. Two states of emergency in a decade.

"DC Water chief tied to Flint water crisis lawsuits now leads utility behind Potomac sewage spill.

After David Gadis assured Flint residents the water was safe, research found elevated lead levels in children."

https://www.metrotimes.com/news/dc-water-chief-tied-to-flint-water-crisis-lawsuits-now-leads-utility-behind-potomac-sewage-spill/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Potomac river was already a lifeless cesspool before this happened, so environmental harm will be minimal because the river was already dead to begin with, thanks to five years of Trump pollution from his golf course.


That’s the sliver lining here - the river was already dead to begin with, so there’s no great loss of wildlife or animals.

Wow, what an ignorant statement. Yes, the Potomac was already polluted. But it’s far from dead. It’s home to countless fish and waterfowl, for example. Anyone hiking among the Potomac can see these critters.

Pollution and run-off from the Trump National Golf Course in Loudoun County killed all the fish and animals in the river in 2017. It’s been a dead river ever since. No fish, no life of any kind.


Why are you defending Trump?

+1. Finally, some science based facts on this thread.

This is absolutely untrue. I hate Trump and all things MAGA but I walk along the Potomac 3-4x a week on Windy Run in Arlington and see fish, birds and other wildlife every single time. I’ve been doing this for 15 years.

So you are denying that Trump poisoned the river and killed virtually all life in it in 2017-2019?

This is what you’re denying, correct? Just so we are clear on your motives here? You are defending Trump and denying that his pollution killed the Potomac 8 years ago.


We see you.


https://washingtonian.com/2016/03/30/donald-trumps-golf-course-continues-to-threaten-potomac-river/

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/trump-golf-course-controversy-grows/1898209/?amp=1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Talk about failing up. This nitwit must have the worst C.V. in the munipal water industry. Two states of emergency in a decade.

"DC Water chief tied to Flint water crisis lawsuits now leads utility behind Potomac sewage spill.

After David Gadis assured Flint residents the water was safe, research found elevated lead levels in children."

https://www.metrotimes.com/news/dc-water-chief-tied-to-flint-water-crisis-lawsuits-now-leads-utility-behind-potomac-sewage-spill/

How much does David Gadis make as CEO of DC Water?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Talk about failing up. This nitwit must have the worst C.V. in the munipal water industry. Two states of emergency in a decade.

"DC Water chief tied to Flint water crisis lawsuits now leads utility behind Potomac sewage spill.

After David Gadis assured Flint residents the water was safe, research found elevated lead levels in children."

https://www.metrotimes.com/news/dc-water-chief-tied-to-flint-water-crisis-lawsuits-now-leads-utility-behind-potomac-sewage-spill/

How much does David Gadis make as CEO of DC Water?

$160,000.

[Anonymous]

Poop and Potomac both start with Po

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Talk about failing up. This nitwit must have the worst C.V. in the munipal water industry. Two states of emergency in a decade.

"DC Water chief tied to Flint water crisis lawsuits now leads utility behind Potomac sewage spill.

After David Gadis assured Flint residents the water was safe, research found elevated lead levels in children."

https://www.metrotimes.com/news/dc-water-chief-tied-to-flint-water-crisis-lawsuits-now-leads-utility-behind-potomac-sewage-spill/

How much does David Gadis make as CEO of DC Water?

$160,000.

That seems low. What do you expect the guy making $160k to do exactly? That’s not a “plan long term strategies” pay rate. The guy had no chance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Talk about failing up. This nitwit must have the worst C.V. in the munipal water industry. Two states of emergency in a decade.

"DC Water chief tied to Flint water crisis lawsuits now leads utility behind Potomac sewage spill.

After David Gadis assured Flint residents the water was safe, research found elevated lead levels in children."

https://www.metrotimes.com/news/dc-water-chief-tied-to-flint-water-crisis-lawsuits-now-leads-utility-behind-potomac-sewage-spill/

How much does David Gadis make as CEO of DC Water?

$160,000.

That seems low. What do you expect the guy making $160k to do exactly? That’s not a “plan long term strategies” pay rate. The guy had no chance.

He makes like $370K