Are we all school snobs?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think many posters are caught in a bubble. I recently switched doctors, and my new doctor mentioned that one of his kids didn’t go to college at all and is instead doing an apprenticeship. That surprised me, since you’d assume a doctor’s child would be aiming for a top college. Another one of his kids did get into highly ranked schools but chose to start at Montgomery College because he didn’t think paying $80–90k per year was justified.

Outside of the DCUM bubble, it seems like more people are making practical, level-headed decisions as college costs continue to skyrocket. A lot of the school snobbery you see is really just people trying to justify the expense and feed their own egos.

Correct. Those who think 80-90k/yr is justified need to get their head examined. Unless they feel it’s fair to be overpaying so that others can attend at lower/no cost — because that is how this works.

By your logic, is anything above the baseline ever justified? people buy Cadillacs, 6000 sq feet houses, purses with 4 digit price tags all the time.

These people can't get their kids into T25, please, this is the Auburn, Bucknell crowd now, rah rah football is king, not learning.

[Anonymous]

Yes!

Go to college and get a degree. Thats all that really matters.

Where it comes from is less and less relevant after they work for a few years.

This is the honest truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bubbles are suffocating. Pop the one you're in and get some fresh air.

I know families where there are kids who don't go to college, where kids who go press pause and drop out, and those that eschew prestige for convenience (state school near home). DCUM seems to have swallowed whole what brand name universities have been selling to them.

I work at a company where colleagues have gone to colleges spanning schools I've never heard of to well known R1 and private/ivy league schools. But we all ultimately report to our CEO that went to Penn State (not U Penn, but Penn State). The Harvard guy reports to the Penn State guy. Once you're out in the work world years and decades, your job title matters much more than the logo on your BA/BS degree.

I know it was a subtle dig at Penn State, but you should know that Penn State business is very competitive and often ranked as 2nd most CEOs.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/penn-state-ceo-linkedin-study/#:~:text=State%20Ranked%20No.-,2%20In%20Universities%20Attended%20By%20CEOs%2C%20Linkedin%20Study%20Finds,University%2C%20and%20Harvard%20Business%20School

[Anonymous]

Yes.

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Anonymous wrote:Not all of us, but there are a disproportionate subset of people here that seem dead set committed on justifying spending 5 years to curate perfect kids so they can pay large sums to attend a school that impresses their friends.

+1000

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bubbles are suffocating. Pop the one you're in and get some fresh air.

I know families where there are kids who don't go to college, where kids who go press pause and drop out, and those that eschew prestige for convenience (state school near home). DCUM seems to have swallowed whole what brand name universities have been selling to them.

I work at a company where colleagues have gone to colleges spanning schools I've never heard of to well known R1 and private/ivy league schools. But we all ultimately report to our CEO that went to Penn State (not U Penn, but Penn State). The Harvard guy reports to the Penn State guy. Once you're out in the work world years and decades, your job title matters much more than the logo on your BA/BS degree.

I know it was a subtle dig at Penn State, but you should know that Penn State business is very competitive and often ranked as 2nd most CEOs.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/penn-state-ceo-linkedin-study/#:~:text=State%20Ranked%20No.-,2%20In%20Universities%20Attended%20By%20CEOs%2C%20Linkedin%20Study%20Finds,University%2C%20and%20Harvard%20Business%20School

I work in consulting with F100 c-suites. So many have undergrad degrees from state schools or non-elite colleges. Their resumes are polished with post-grad degrees from elites but it’s not common to find all Ivy/T25 alumni at the CEO level.

Darren Woods, ExxonMobil - Texas A&M
Elliott Hill, Nike - TCU
Brian Tyler, McKesson - UC Santa Cruz
Stephen J. Hemsley, UHG - Fordham
David Joyner, CVS Health - Texas Tech

[Anonymous]

Yes. Anything else?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not all of us, but there are a disproportionate subset of people here that seem dead set committed on justifying spending 5 years to curate perfect kids so they can pay large sums to attend a school that impresses their friends.

What’s worse is paying large sums of money to attend schools not in the top 25.

I'd love to hear why 25 is the magic number? Is there something lacking in:

UNC
UVA
USC
NYU
Tufts
BC
BU?

Why is 25 the magic number? And you didn't mention the top SLACs, at least 10 of which are as good as or better than any school in the top 25? Does that mean the number should be top 15?

Out of 4,000 schools in the country?

Many of the above are comparable or even better han the bottom of the 25. Stern and UVA for example.

OMG, no. Please stop.

Sounds like you went to one of the shit overpriced schools.

[Anonymous]

It's even harder if you're from a culture/parents are from a country where everything is based on test scores and college rankings. People in my family STILL mention how well so-and-so did on the national college exam 50 years ago, and exactly what rank they were. DH and I were both double ivy-leaguers so it is hard to shake that. At the same time, I switched fields and jobs many times before I found the right fit. And I work with people from all walks of life who have found success--people who were in prison, who never finished high school, who are refugees from other countries and had to start again, or laid-off feds who have only ever worked at one agency. There are many paths to success and we are lucky that the U.S. is the sort of place where you can try a lot of options. As parents we need to become educated about all of those options, because a college degree--even from a prestigious institution--doesn't guarantee anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's even harder if you're from a culture/parents are from a country where everything is based on test scores and college rankings. People in my family STILL mention how well so-and-so did on the national college exam 50 years ago, and exactly what rank they were. DH and I were both double ivy-leaguers so it is hard to shake that. At the same time, I switched fields and jobs many times before I found the right fit. And I work with people from all walks of life who have found success--people who were in prison, who never finished high school, who are refugees from other countries and had to start again, or laid-off feds who have only ever worked at one agency. There are many paths to success and we are lucky that the U.S. is the sort of place where you can try a lot of options. As parents we need to become educated about all of those options, because a college degree--even from a prestigious institution--doesn't guarantee anything.

a lot of striver immigrant parents on here who didn't go to a good school. Getting their kids into top schools is to fulfill their own insecurities and it is pathetic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's even harder if you're from a culture/parents are from a country where everything is based on test scores and college rankings. People in my family STILL mention how well so-and-so did on the national college exam 50 years ago, and exactly what rank they were. DH and I were both double ivy-leaguers so it is hard to shake that. At the same time, I switched fields and jobs many times before I found the right fit. And I work with people from all walks of life who have found success--people who were in prison, who never finished high school, who are refugees from other countries and had to start again, or laid-off feds who have only ever worked at one agency. There are many paths to success and we are lucky that the U.S. is the sort of place where you can try a lot of options. As parents we need to become educated about all of those options, because a college degree--even from a prestigious institution--doesn't guarantee anything.

a lot of striver immigrant parents on here who didn't go to a good school. Getting their kids into top schools is to fulfill their own insecurities and it is pathetic.

Many went to IIT. They have nothing to be insecure about.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, once you've attended a top school, you realize how wonderful it is. It's terrible to say, but it is such a special 4-year bubble. The problem is those of us who went to a top school know this, and want the same for our kids, it's only natural. I am not being snotty at all, but once you know what's "behind the gates" it's hard to unknow it and not want that for your kid. If you walk around the UWS or UES of NYC on the weekends, you see these top 25 t-shirts on many...and they all have the best jobs in the major cities. It pays itself forward...

UWS/UES has more old money/legacy/donor. But there are also tons of low ranked T-shirts there. Hamilton, Colgate, Vassar. In fact, lots of NYU T-shirts.

Around Tribeca you will more diverse range of T-shirts.

Nothing low ranked about Hamilton, Colgate, and Vassar. I know it hurts for you to hear it but they punch all day with the schools which you believe to be their betters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It's even harder if you're from a culture/parents are from a country where everything is based on test scores and college rankings. People in my family STILL mention how well so-and-so did on the national college exam 50 years ago, and exactly what rank they were. DH and I were both double ivy-leaguers so it is hard to shake that. At the same time, I switched fields and jobs many times before I found the right fit. And I work with people from all walks of life who have found success--people who were in prison, who never finished high school, who are refugees from other countries and had to start again, or laid-off feds who have only ever worked at one agency. There are many paths to success and we are lucky that the U.S. is the sort of place where you can try a lot of options. As parents we need to become educated about all of those options, because a college degree--even from a prestigious institution--doesn't guarantee anything.

a lot of striver immigrant parents on here who didn't go to a good school. Getting their kids into top schools is to fulfill their own insecurities and it is pathetic.

Many went to IIT. They have nothing to be insecure about.

But many more didn’t and it pervades their thinking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, once you've attended a top school, you realize how wonderful it is. It's terrible to say, but it is such a special 4-year bubble. The problem is those of us who went to a top school know this, and want the same for our kids, it's only natural. I am not being snotty at all, but once you know what's "behind the gates" it's hard to unknow it and not want that for your kid. If you walk around the UWS or UES of NYC on the weekends, you see these top 25 t-shirts on many...and they all have the best jobs in the major cities. It pays itself forward...

UWS/UES has more old money/legacy/donor. But there are also tons of low ranked T-shirts there. Hamilton, Colgate, Vassar. In fact, lots of NYU T-shirts.

Around Tribeca you will more diverse range of T-shirts.

This appears to be the type of comment that might be written by someone with little interest in academics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's even harder if you're from a culture/parents are from a country where everything is based on test scores and college rankings. People in my family STILL mention how well so-and-so did on the national college exam 50 years ago, and exactly what rank they were. DH and I were both double ivy-leaguers so it is hard to shake that. At the same time, I switched fields and jobs many times before I found the right fit. And I work with people from all walks of life who have found success--people who were in prison, who never finished high school, who are refugees from other countries and had to start again, or laid-off feds who have only ever worked at one agency. There are many paths to success and we are lucky that the U.S. is the sort of place where you can try a lot of options. As parents we need to become educated about all of those options, because a college degree--even from a prestigious institution--doesn't guarantee anything.

a lot of striver immigrant parents on here who didn't go to a good school. Getting their kids into top schools is to fulfill their own insecurities and it is pathetic.

Many went to IIT. They have nothing to be insecure about.

Many did not in fact go to IIT