Did I miss the thread on the current revolution going on to free Iran?

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Anonymous wrote:Free Iran!! Down with the IRGC!

And up with... whom?

A 20 year military occupation by American young me?

They have a interim leader waiting. Part of the last royal family.

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Anonymous wrote:Iran is just a casualty of Israel’s dominance of US politics. The US should be allied with Iran. Iran is a real country, located in an important strategic location and has oil.

The differences between Israel and Iran theocracies are the Israeli racism, oppression and genocide.

I really can’t tell if this is supposed to be sarcastic.

Sadly no. She is completely serious and knows nothing about how Iran is the country causing conflicts in the region and training, funding and giving a go to Hamas to execute October 07. Utter delusional moron.

Excellent analysis. You deserve many shekels for this wonderful post.

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Anonymous wrote:You didn’t miss it. It’s startling how little attention this is getting. Perhaps it doesn’t fit the leftist worldview that islamist extremism is a heroic movement of anti colonialism and simply a natural act of the oppressed. /s

I remain hopeful for the people of Iran but the apathy of so many supposedly freedom loving Americans, particularly left leaning, is jolting.

Sweetie what are you blabbering about exactly. It’s being reported in the New York Times, BbC, CNN, MSNBC, Reuters, The Atlantic, Al Jazeera, WSJ, NPR, and other outlets. Maybe you should broaden your horizons when following the news.

MAGAs can't read. According to Gallup, 54% of Americans between the ages of 17-72 read below a sixth grade level. Taco said he loves the uneducated for a reason. (That is one thing he understood about MAGA voters).

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Anonymous wrote:Iran is just a casualty of Israel’s dominance of US politics. The US should be allied with Iran. Iran is a real country, located in an important strategic location and has oil.

The differences between Israel and Iran theocracies are the Israeli racism, oppression and genocide.

I really can’t tell if this is supposed to be sarcastic.

DP. Is Iran involved in a genocide? Did Iran steal land to create a country that never existed? If the US had to choose between Israel or Iran as an ally you would take Iran in 10 out of 10 times.

Yes Iran has been involved in a genocide all while chanting Death to America and supporting terrorists who kill Americans.

Are people this ignorant or people genuinely would support Iran? Why do so many liberals support fundamentalists who kill gay men, support terrorism, and think it is acceptable to beat and subjugate women?

That's the million-dollar question and one that is never, ever addressed or answered.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:Iran is just a casualty of Israel’s dominance of US politics. The US should be allied with Iran. Iran is a real country, located in an important strategic location and has oil.

The differences between Israel and Iran theocracies are the Israeli racism, oppression and genocide.

I really can’t tell if this is supposed to be sarcastic.

DP. Is Iran involved in a genocide? Did Iran steal land to create a country that never existed? If the US had to choose between Israel or Iran as an ally you would take Iran in 10 out of 10 times.

Yes Iran has been involved in a genocide all while chanting Death to America and supporting terrorists who kill Americans.

Are people this ignorant or people genuinely would support Iran? Why do so many liberals support fundamentalists who kill gay men, support terrorism, and think it is acceptable to beat and subjugate women?

That's the million-dollar question and one that is never, ever addressed or answered.
DP

You are DELULU, Miss MAGA

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Anonymous wrote:Iran is just a casualty of Israel’s dominance of US politics. The US should be allied with Iran. Iran is a real country, located in an important strategic location and has oil.

The differences between Israel and Iran theocracies are the Israeli racism, oppression and genocide.

Iran has been hostile to American from day one of this regime in 1979 and has done nothing since to advance any kind of reconciliation or alliance with the US.

This theocratic regime has been oppressive and authoritarian and has horribly mismanaged Iran. They can go and maybe THEN we can become friends with its new government.

You really don't know what the US did to the Iranian people pre-1979, to cause the revolution do you. If only the USA had been a fair player, even now we still don't know how to play fair and have failed to learn the lesson. Yes, the people hate this regime, but do you really think they once they are deposed, and they eventually will be, that the Iranian people want to go back to pre-1979 under the thumb of an American imposed dictator who disappeared people

Nobody here said Iran was perfect under the Shah. Yes, it was authoritarian, and yes, they had SAVAK repress certain groups, such as marxists, islamists, and dissidents, however most Persians enjoyed quite a bit of freedom otherwise. But here's the thing - authoritarianism, repression and oppression and human rights abuses got FAR WORSE under the Ayatollahs. The Shah was not a good person. But ironically right now, the loudest voices within Iran rising up and calling for change are pro-Pahlavi so even that's recognized as being better than the current status quo. Bringing a sha back would not be ideal, but perhaps the opportunity would be a democratic, constitutional monarchy similar to the UK. Also not perfect, but at least a step in a better direction from where Iran is now.

Let them figure it out. Every time the UK or USA got involved it only made things worse for the ordinary Iranian. It's not like we don't have a lot of mess going on over here in our politics. Half the country wants to get rid of the other half, but we want to control the people half way around the world. No, just no.

"Letting them figure it out" is what gave us the Ayatollahs and their repression. And more broadly across the middle east, one crazy islamist terror group after another. And one corrupt, repressive regime after another. And most of the world's worst human rights abuses. And, continued modern-day slavery. I think maybe the ones allowed to do the figuring out need to be vetted for sanity and decency.

Sounds like zionist gibberish here. Maybe go read a book and learn how the US overthrew the democratically elected government in Iran to better understand the events leading to the rise of the Ayatollah.

WRONG. I can't stand Netanyahu and his Zionist agenda but even I can see how many middle eastern regimes have completely failed at modern governance.

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Anonymous wrote:Iran is just a casualty of Israel’s dominance of US politics. The US should be allied with Iran. Iran is a real country, located in an important strategic location and has oil.

The differences between Israel and Iran theocracies are the Israeli racism, oppression and genocide.

Iran has been hostile to American from day one of this regime in 1979 and has done nothing since to advance any kind of reconciliation or alliance with the US.

This theocratic regime has been oppressive and authoritarian and has horribly mismanaged Iran. They can go and maybe THEN we can become friends with its new government.

You really don't know what the US did to the Iranian people pre-1979, to cause the revolution do you. If only the USA had been a fair player, even now we still don't know how to play fair and have failed to learn the lesson. Yes, the people hate this regime, but do you really think they once they are deposed, and they eventually will be, that the Iranian people want to go back to pre-1979 under the thumb of an American imposed dictator who disappeared people

Nobody here said Iran was perfect under the Shah. Yes, it was authoritarian, and yes, they had SAVAK repress certain groups, such as marxists, islamists, and dissidents, however most Persians enjoyed quite a bit of freedom otherwise. But here's the thing - authoritarianism, repression and oppression and human rights abuses got FAR WORSE under the Ayatollahs. The Shah was not a good person. But ironically right now, the loudest voices within Iran rising up and calling for change are pro-Pahlavi so even that's recognized as being better than the current status quo. Bringing a sha back would not be ideal, but perhaps the opportunity would be a democratic, constitutional monarchy similar to the UK. Also not perfect, but at least a step in a better direction from where Iran is now.

Let them figure it out. Every time the UK or USA got involved it only made things worse for the ordinary Iranian. It's not like we don't have a lot of mess going on over here in our politics. Half the country wants to get rid of the other half, but we want to control the people half way around the world. No, just no.

"Letting them figure it out" is what gave us the Ayatollahs and their repression. And more broadly across the middle east, one crazy islamist terror group after another. And one corrupt, repressive regime after another. And most of the world's worst human rights abuses. And, continued modern-day slavery. I think maybe the ones allowed to do the figuring out need to be vetted for sanity and decency.

Sounds like zionist gibberish here. Maybe go read a book and learn how the US overthrew the democratically elected government in Iran to better understand the events leading to the rise of the Ayatollah.

WRONG. I can't stand Netanyahu and his Zionist agenda but even I can see how many middle eastern regimes have completely failed at modern governance.

Are you seriously that dense?

Here, let me TRY to make this easy for you with an simple question …

What country in the region has gained the most through those many failures?

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Anonymous wrote:Iran is just a casualty of Israel’s dominance of US politics. The US should be allied with Iran. Iran is a real country, located in an important strategic location and has oil.

The differences between Israel and Iran theocracies are the Israeli racism, oppression and genocide.

Iran has been hostile to American from day one of this regime in 1979 and has done nothing since to advance any kind of reconciliation or alliance with the US.

This theocratic regime has been oppressive and authoritarian and has horribly mismanaged Iran. They can go and maybe THEN we can become friends with its new government.

You really don't know what the US did to the Iranian people pre-1979, to cause the revolution do you. If only the USA had been a fair player, even now we still don't know how to play fair and have failed to learn the lesson. Yes, the people hate this regime, but do you really think they once they are deposed, and they eventually will be, that the Iranian people want to go back to pre-1979 under the thumb of an American imposed dictator who disappeared people

Nobody here said Iran was perfect under the Shah. Yes, it was authoritarian, and yes, they had SAVAK repress certain groups, such as marxists, islamists, and dissidents, however most Persians enjoyed quite a bit of freedom otherwise. But here's the thing - authoritarianism, repression and oppression and human rights abuses got FAR WORSE under the Ayatollahs. The Shah was not a good person. But ironically right now, the loudest voices within Iran rising up and calling for change are pro-Pahlavi so even that's recognized as being better than the current status quo. Bringing a sha back would not be ideal, but perhaps the opportunity would be a democratic, constitutional monarchy similar to the UK. Also not perfect, but at least a step in a better direction from where Iran is now.

Let them figure it out. Every time the UK or USA got involved it only made things worse for the ordinary Iranian. It's not like we don't have a lot of mess going on over here in our politics. Half the country wants to get rid of the other half, but we want to control the people half way around the world. No, just no.

"Letting them figure it out" is what gave us the Ayatollahs and their repression. And more broadly across the middle east, one crazy islamist terror group after another. And one corrupt, repressive regime after another. And most of the world's worst human rights abuses. And, continued modern-day slavery. I think maybe the ones allowed to do the figuring out need to be vetted for sanity and decency.

Sounds like zionist gibberish here. Maybe go read a book and learn how the US overthrew the democratically elected government in Iran to better understand the events leading to the rise of the Ayatollah.

WRONG. I can't stand Netanyahu and his Zionist agenda but even I can see how many middle eastern regimes have completely failed at modern governance.

Are you seriously that dense?

Here, let me TRY to make this easy for you with an simple question …

What country in the region has gained the most through those many failures?

Probably the same country whos prime minister said 9/11 was good and had a list of seven countries that he wanted the US to invade and destabilize.

[Anonymous]

Has anyone in congress weighed in on what’s happening in Iran?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Free Iran!! Down with the IRGC!

And up with... whom?

A 20 year military occupation by American young me?

They have an interim leader waiting. Part of the last royal family.

The royal family that was deposed twice?

That might not work out so well.

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Anonymous wrote:Iran is just a casualty of Israel’s dominance of US politics. The US should be allied with Iran. Iran is a real country, located in an important strategic location and has oil.

The differences between Israel and Iran theocracies are the Israeli racism, oppression and genocide.

I really can’t tell if this is supposed to be sarcastic.

DP. Is Iran involved in a genocide? Did Iran steal land to create a country that never existed? If the US had to choose between Israel or Iran as an ally you would take Iran in 10 out of 10 times.

Yes Iran has been involved in a genocide all while chanting Death to America and supporting terrorists who kill Americans.

Are people this ignorant or people genuinely would support Iran? Why do so many liberals support fundamentalists who kill gay men, support terrorism, and think it is acceptable to beat and subjugate women?

That's the million-dollar question and one that is never, ever addressed or answered.
DP

Because Iran, like the pro-Palestinian on here who posts interminably, support Palestinian terror as a proxy for the annihilation of Israel, the overarching goal. Nothing else matters to them, no conduct is too evil or obscene if in service of that objective. That, of course, is just the first step towards global Islam, spread by force.

Substitute a few words and you're literally talking about Zionism and the destruction of the middle east. Last I checked, it wasn't Iran attacking 8 different countries and their civilian population in the span of a year.

You might want to do a bit more research on the proxy wars and terrorism sponsored by IRGC and Quds - Hezbollah in Lebanon, Hezbollah, Badr and Shia militias in Iraq, Hezbollah and Shia militias in Syria, Houthis in Yemen, Hamas, PLJ and PFLP in Gaza and West Bank, Liwa Fatemiyoun militia in Afghanistan and Pakistan... sending drones to Russia for bombing Ukraine. There's at least eight countries Iran is attacking and killing civilians in right there.

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Anonymous wrote:Iran is just a casualty of Israel’s dominance of US politics. The US should be allied with Iran. Iran is a real country, located in an important strategic location and has oil.

The differences between Israel and Iran theocracies are the Israeli racism, oppression and genocide.

I really can’t tell if this is supposed to be sarcastic.

DP. Is Iran involved in a genocide? Did Iran steal land to create a country that never existed? If the US had to choose between Israel or Iran as an ally you would take Iran in 10 out of 10 times.

Yes Iran has been involved in a genocide all while chanting Death to America and supporting terrorists who kill Americans.

Are people this ignorant or people genuinely would support Iran? Why do so many liberals support fundamentalists who kill gay men, support terrorism, and think it is acceptable to beat and subjugate women?

That's the million-dollar question and one that is never, ever addressed or answered.
DP

Because Iran, like the pro-Palestinian on here who posts interminably, support Palestinian terror as a proxy for the annihilation of Israel, the overarching goal. Nothing else matters to them, no conduct is too evil or obscene if in service of that objective. That, of course, is just the first step towards global Islam, spread by force.

Substitute a few words and you're literally talking about Zionism and the destruction of the middle east. Last I checked, it wasn't Iran attacking 8 different countries and their civilian population in the span of a year.

Iran attacks using proxies, Israel defends itself against those attacking it. You apparently are incapable of distinguishing between offense and defense, as it typical of pro-Palestinian apologists who are compelled to claim that every offensive terror action is really "defense" against a country which was attacked by Palestinians and others from the moment it came into existence and ever after.

Says the mouth breather defending the pariah nation that coined and exclusively uses the laughable “preemptive self-defense” excuse at every turn …

I'm sure the "pariah nation" is crying as Palestinian territory keeps shrinking, and as Palestinians keep dying after each failed terror attack. There's a pretty clear trajectory here for the Palestinians, and it doesn't lead to blue skies and rainbows as long as they keep on doing what they've been doing for the last 78 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Iran is just a casualty of Israel’s dominance of US politics. The US should be allied with Iran. Iran is a real country, located in an important strategic location and has oil.

The differences between Israel and Iran theocracies are the Israeli racism, oppression and genocide.

Iran has been hostile to American from day one of this regime in 1979 and has done nothing since to advance any kind of reconciliation or alliance with the US.

This theocratic regime has been oppressive and authoritarian and has horribly mismanaged Iran. They can go and maybe THEN we can become friends with its new government.

You really don't know what the US did to the Iranian people pre-1979, to cause the revolution do you. If only the USA had been a fair player, even now we still don't know how to play fair and have failed to learn the lesson. Yes, the people hate this regime, but do you really think they once they are deposed, and they eventually will be, that the Iranian people want to go back to pre-1979 under the thumb of an American imposed dictator who disappeared people

Nobody here said Iran was perfect under the Shah. Yes, it was authoritarian, and yes, they had SAVAK repress certain groups, such as marxists, islamists, and dissidents, however most Persians enjoyed quite a bit of freedom otherwise. But here's the thing - authoritarianism, repression and oppression and human rights abuses got FAR WORSE under the Ayatollahs. The Shah was not a good person. But ironically right now, the loudest voices within Iran rising up and calling for change are pro-Pahlavi so even that's recognized as being better than the current status quo. Bringing a sha back would not be ideal, but perhaps the opportunity would be a democratic, constitutional monarchy similar to the UK. Also not perfect, but at least a step in a better direction from where Iran is now.

Let them figure it out. Every time the UK or USA got involved it only made things worse for the ordinary Iranian. It's not like we don't have a lot of mess going on over here in our politics. Half the country wants to get rid of the other half, but we want to control the people half way around the world. No, just no.

"Letting them figure it out" is what gave us the Ayatollahs and their repression. And more broadly across the middle east, one crazy islamist terror group after another. And one corrupt, repressive regime after another. And most of the world's worst human rights abuses. And, continued modern-day slavery. I think maybe the ones allowed to do the figuring out need to be vetted for sanity and decency.

Sounds like zionist gibberish here. Maybe go read a book and learn how the US overthrew the democratically elected government in Iran to better understand the events leading to the rise of the Ayatollah.

WRONG. I can't stand Netanyahu and his Zionist agenda but even I can see how many middle eastern regimes have completely failed at modern governance.

Are you seriously that dense?

Here, let me TRY to make this easy for you with an simple question …

What country in the region has gained the most through those many failures?

Name some countries in the Middle East that have a stable government of the people, little corruption, and no human rights abuses.

And what has been "gained" by the governance failures of Yemen, Libya, etc? Do you seriously think Israel or the US are somehow benefiting from those countries being a total mess? Those messes create geopolitical security risks.

I didn’t say that the agenda was a smart, sensible one. The geopolitical agenda of Israel (and of the U.S., sadly, by extension) is idiotic, which is why that “total mess” comes as hardly a surprise to those paying attention but without the diseased scourge of Zionism raving through our bloodstream.

So you failed to show anyone having something to gain. You failed to show solid examples of successful self-governance. You failed in your quest to dismiss any legitimate criticism or statements about history as "zionist gibberish." So why are you still here flailing?

I’m flailing?!

Here’s a quick lesson on reality for you:

The underlying question was not who ACTUALLY gained from their actions, but who THOUGHT that they would gain from their actions.

Actions taken today are driven by thoughts in existence today, not by what actually plays out in the future following those actions.

Are you new here on earth?

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Anonymous wrote:You didn’t miss it. It’s startling how little attention this is getting. Perhaps it doesn’t fit the leftist worldview that islamist extremism is a heroic movement of anti colonialism and simply a natural act of the oppressed. /s

I remain hopeful for the people of Iran but the apathy of so many supposedly freedom loving Americans, particularly left leaning, is jolting.

Bc they can’t hate on Jews or Israel - silence.

Classic dcum

DP

Ugh - don’t you ever tire of playing this victim card, this “everyone hates Jews!” mass conspiracy nonsense?

No more than tiring of the "Israel is the root of all evil" card the pro-Palestinian here keeps throwing down in every possible thread, no matter how unrelated.

Let's agree that Palestinians represent a failed terror regime bent on genocide against the Jews, and we can find common ground from which to proceed.

No one is stupid enough to fall for your satirical Hasbra. Stop embarrassing yourself and other Zionists.

And there she goes again, right on cue!

If you have nothing cogent pertinent, and even remotely accurate to add to a discussion, it's rude to use other people's threads as vehicles for irrelevant antisemitic ranting. Just continue to start your own vituperative threads instead of hijacking others.

[Anonymous]

Iran is in the Chinese zone of influence. Therefore Trump and republicans are unconcerned about Iran ans will not intervene.