Soccer vs American football in HS

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Anonymous wrote:If any sport will threaten football, it's basketball at the right school. Cheer and band usually switch to supporting basketball once football is over at schools with good teams,

Basketball is also THE most profitable sport for many high schools and colleges. It's also the most competitive to make a roster at a good school. That's because, compared to football, there are fewer players, very little overhead costs, very little coaching staff, and way more games played per season.

My brother-in law is an AD in LCPS. Has anyone on here has ever looked into how sport programs are funded in public high schools in this area? In most of the counties (LCPS, FCPS, ACPS, PWCS), football funds ALL the other sports at the school (besides boys basketball at a few select schools) through ticket sales and concessions. There would be no high school soccer if there wasn't football.

Football Events are very popular for a large part of the population
No disputing that

Football the game itself, not so much

Facts and statistics easily disprove this opinion, but go on queen...

Every program in FCPS, ACHS, and the majority of LCPS and PWCS have 3 levels of football high school football. 7on7 and flag teams are more popular than ever. Two “schools” opened just last year (Loudoun Sports Academy & St. James Academy) practically just for football. There is no shortage of popularity in the game itself.

How much 7v7 and flag football is being played by kids all over Virginia on the weekends compared to soccer?

I don't know. Tell us the answer and please provide sources. They should he legitimate sources, not "I think."

Let's all go with the eye test, though I'm sure numbers exist somewhere

It's obvious more kids are playing soccer on the weekend. Every school and public field is being used evenings and weekends for soccer

Maybe so but many are young, their parents put them in it to see if they "like" it. It's an activity.

Most kids who start.sports young stop that sport, ot sports general between 12-14. A lot of your "eye test" is parent driven.

As I thought, you actually have no idea how many kids are doing what. You just wanted to throw something out there without proof.

I do think you'd actually be surprised by the numbers of kids playing football. And no, like you, I have no numbers. But like you, I just "know."

According to research done by The Aspen Institute, the most common youth sports children play are basketball (36.8%), soccer (26.5%), and baseball (24.1%). This is from a comprehensive list of 39 different options, ranging from common sports like the aforementioned three to less common sports like parkour (1.1%), squash (0.7%), and fencing (1.4%).

Soccer, Basketball and Baseball are the top three on every youth sports list by numbers and percentage for participation

Yet football, baseball and basketball, and combining attendance at the amateur and professional level in this country clearly attract the most fans to the games. Amateur soccer attracts the parents and some fans and professional games don’t pack the stadiums. Even hockey does that. Interesting phenomenon

The goalposts are swaying in the wind as you move them

Soccer has more youth participants than football
You were wrong saying football is more popular

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If any sport will threaten football, it's basketball at the right school. Cheer and band usually switch to supporting basketball once football is over at schools with good teams,

Basketball is also THE most profitable sport for many high schools and colleges. It's also the most competitive to make a roster at a good school. That's because, compared to football, there are fewer players, very little overhead costs, very little coaching staff, and way more games played per season.

My brother-in law is an AD in LCPS. Has anyone on here has ever looked into how sport programs are funded in public high schools in this area? In most of the counties (LCPS, FCPS, ACPS, PWCS), football funds ALL the other sports at the school (besides boys basketball at a few select schools) through ticket sales and concessions. There would be no high school soccer if there wasn't football.

Football Events are very popular for a large part of the population
No disputing that

Football the game itself, not so much

Facts and statistics easily disprove this opinion, but go on queen...

Every program in FCPS, ACHS, and the majority of LCPS and PWCS have 3 levels of football high school football. 7on7 and flag teams are more popular than ever. Two “schools” opened just last year (Loudoun Sports Academy & St. James Academy) practically just for football. There is no shortage of popularity in the game itself.

How much 7v7 and flag football is being played by kids all over Virginia on the weekends compared to soccer?

What point are you actually trying to make here? That soccer is more popular than football? More kids play organized soccer but I’m not sure how that matters. What matters is how many watch because that’s where the money comes from. The money from NFL, college, even high school football dwarfs all the other sports and it isn’t even close.

The response was to the person who said football is more popular with kids

Literally no one said "football is more popular with kids". Reading comprehension is important when trying to engage in dialogue, at least if you want to appear intelligent.

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Anonymous wrote:If any sport will threaten football, it's basketball at the right school. Cheer and band usually switch to supporting basketball once football is over at schools with good teams,

Basketball is also THE most profitable sport for many high schools and colleges. It's also the most competitive to make a roster at a good school. That's because, compared to football, there are fewer players, very little overhead costs, very little coaching staff, and way more games played per season.

My brother-in law is an AD in LCPS. Has anyone on here has ever looked into how sport programs are funded in public high schools in this area? In most of the counties (LCPS, FCPS, ACPS, PWCS), football funds ALL the other sports at the school (besides boys basketball at a few select schools) through ticket sales and concessions. There would be no high school soccer if there wasn't football.

Football Events are very popular for a large part of the population
No disputing that

Football the game itself, not so much

Facts and statistics easily disprove this opinion, but go on queen...

Every program in FCPS, ACHS, and the majority of LCPS and PWCS have 3 levels of football high school football. 7on7 and flag teams are more popular than ever. Two “schools” opened just last year (Loudoun Sports Academy & St. James Academy) practically just for football. There is no shortage of popularity in the game itself.

How much 7v7 and flag football is being played by kids all over Virginia on the weekends compared to soccer?

I don't know. Tell us the answer and please provide sources. They should he legitimate sources, not "I think."

Let's all go with the eye test, though I'm sure numbers exist somewhere

It's obvious more kids are playing soccer on the weekend. Every school and public field is being used evenings and weekends for soccer

Maybe so but many are young, their parents put them in it to see if they "like" it. It's an activity.

Most kids who start.sports young stop that sport, ot sports general between 12-14. A lot of your "eye test" is parent driven.

As I thought, you actually have no idea how many kids are doing what. You just wanted to throw something out there without proof.

I do think you'd actually be surprised by the numbers of kids playing football. And no, like you, I have no numbers. But like you, I just "know."

According to research done by The Aspen Institute, the most common youth sports children play are basketball (36.8%), soccer (26.5%), and baseball (24.1%). This is from a comprehensive list of 39 different options, ranging from common sports like the aforementioned three to less common sports like parkour (1.1%), squash (0.7%), and fencing (1.4%).

Soccer, Basketball and Baseball are the top three on every youth sports list by numbers and percentage for participation

Yet football, baseball and basketball, and combining attendance at the amateur and professional level in this country clearly attract the most fans to the games. Amateur soccer attracts the parents and some fans and professional games don’t pack the stadiums. Even hockey does that. Interesting phenomenon

The goalposts are swaying in the wind as you move them

Soccer has more youth participants than football
You were wrong saying football is more popular

Oof, you even doubled down on misreading literally anyone saying "football is more popular".

Talk about swaying the goal posts.

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Interesting poll question would be, how many parents on dcum played football vs soccer?

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Anonymous wrote:If any sport will threaten football, it's basketball at the right school. Cheer and band usually switch to supporting basketball once football is over at schools with good teams,

Basketball is also THE most profitable sport for many high schools and colleges. It's also the most competitive to make a roster at a good school. That's because, compared to football, there are fewer players, very little overhead costs, very little coaching staff, and way more games played per season.

My brother-in law is an AD in LCPS. Has anyone on here has ever looked into how sport programs are funded in public high schools in this area? In most of the counties (LCPS, FCPS, ACPS, PWCS), football funds ALL the other sports at the school (besides boys basketball at a few select schools) through ticket sales and concessions. There would be no high school soccer if there wasn't football.

Football Events are very popular for a large part of the population
No disputing that

Football the game itself, not so much

Facts and statistics easily disprove this opinion, but go on queen...

Every program in FCPS, ACHS, and the majority of LCPS and PWCS have 3 levels of football high school football. 7on7 and flag teams are more popular than ever. Two “schools” opened just last year (Loudoun Sports Academy & St. James Academy) practically just for football. There is no shortage of popularity in the game itself.

How much 7v7 and flag football is being played by kids all over Virginia on the weekends compared to soccer?

I don't know. Tell us the answer and please provide sources. They should he legitimate sources, not "I think."

Let's all go with the eye test, though I'm sure numbers exist somewhere

It's obvious more kids are playing soccer on the weekend. Every school and public field is being used evenings and weekends for soccer

Maybe so but many are young, their parents put them in it to see if they "like" it. It's an activity.

Most kids who start.sports young stop that sport, ot sports general between 12-14. A lot of your "eye test" is parent driven.

As I thought, you actually have no idea how many kids are doing what. You just wanted to throw something out there without proof.

I do think you'd actually be surprised by the numbers of kids playing football. And no, like you, I have no numbers. But like you, I just "know."

According to research done by The Aspen Institute, the most common youth sports children play are basketball (36.8%), soccer (26.5%), and baseball (24.1%). This is from a comprehensive list of 39 different options, ranging from common sports like the aforementioned three to less common sports like parkour (1.1%), squash (0.7%), and fencing (1.4%).

Soccer, Basketball and Baseball are the top three on every youth sports list by numbers and percentage for participation

Yet football, baseball and basketball, and combining attendance at the amateur and professional level in this country clearly attract the most fans to the games. Amateur soccer attracts the parents and some fans and professional games don’t pack the stadiums. Even hockey does that. Interesting phenomenon

The goalposts are swaying in the wind as you move them

Soccer has more youth participants than football
You were wrong saying football is more popular

Can you highlight for me where I said football is more popular than soccer please. Or do you have a reading comprehension issue?

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Anonymous wrote:If any sport will threaten football, it's basketball at the right school. Cheer and band usually switch to supporting basketball once football is over at schools with good teams,

Basketball is also THE most profitable sport for many high schools and colleges. It's also the most competitive to make a roster at a good school. That's because, compared to football, there are fewer players, very little overhead costs, very little coaching staff, and way more games played per season.

My brother-in law is an AD in LCPS. Has anyone on here has ever looked into how sport programs are funded in public high schools in this area? In most of the counties (LCPS, FCPS, ACPS, PWCS), football funds ALL the other sports at the school (besides boys basketball at a few select schools) through ticket sales and concessions. There would be no high school soccer if there wasn't football.

Football Events are very popular for a large part of the population
No disputing that

Football the game itself, not so much

Facts and statistics easily disprove this opinion, but go on queen...

Every program in FCPS, ACHS, and the majority of LCPS and PWCS have 3 levels of football high school football. 7on7 and flag teams are more popular than ever. Two “schools” opened just last year (Loudoun Sports Academy & St. James Academy) practically just for football. There is no shortage of popularity in the game itself.

How much 7v7 and flag football is being played by kids all over Virginia on the weekends compared to soccer?

I don't know. Tell us the answer and please provide sources. They should he legitimate sources, not "I think."

Let's all go with the eye test, though I'm sure numbers exist somewhere

It's obvious more kids are playing soccer on the weekend. Every school and public field is being used evenings and weekends for soccer

Maybe so but many are young, their parents put them in it to see if they "like" it. It's an activity.

Most kids who start.sports young stop that sport, ot sports general between 12-14. A lot of your "eye test" is parent driven.

As I thought, you actually have no idea how many kids are doing what. You just wanted to throw something out there without proof.

I do think you'd actually be surprised by the numbers of kids playing football. And no, like you, I have no numbers. But like you, I just "know."

According to research done by The Aspen Institute, the most common youth sports children play are basketball (36.8%), soccer (26.5%), and baseball (24.1%). This is from a comprehensive list of 39 different options, ranging from common sports like the aforementioned three to less common sports like parkour (1.1%), squash (0.7%), and fencing (1.4%).

Those numbers don't mean a lot without more information. How many people participated? Where was this research conducted, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting poll question would be, how many parents on dcum played football vs soccer?

Most probably played neither, at least not well. This is why some are obsessed with their child(ren)'s sports "career.

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All I can say is cultures like what they like and that gets passed down by generations. I mean cricket is the 2nd most popular sport in the world and as a general sports enthusiast I can enjoy pretty much any sport in person but cricket is not it for me and dont understand the love for it just like you and American football lol. I'm sure if I grew up where cricket is popular it'd be a different story.

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Anonymous wrote:If any sport will threaten football, it's basketball at the right school. Cheer and band usually switch to supporting basketball once football is over at schools with good teams,

Basketball is also THE most profitable sport for many high schools and colleges. It's also the most competitive to make a roster at a good school. That's because, compared to football, there are fewer players, very little overhead costs, very little coaching staff, and way more games played per season.

My brother-in law is an AD in LCPS. Has anyone on here has ever looked into how sport programs are funded in public high schools in this area? In most of the counties (LCPS, FCPS, ACPS, PWCS), football funds ALL the other sports at the school (besides boys basketball at a few select schools) through ticket sales and concessions. There would be no high school soccer if there wasn't football.

Football Events are very popular for a large part of the population
No disputing that

Football the game itself, not so much

Facts and statistics easily disprove this opinion, but go on queen...

Every program in FCPS, ACHS, and the majority of LCPS and PWCS have 3 levels of football high school football. 7on7 and flag teams are more popular than ever. Two “schools” opened just last year (Loudoun Sports Academy & St. James Academy) practically just for football. There is no shortage of popularity in the game itself.

How much 7v7 and flag football is being played by kids all over Virginia on the weekends compared to soccer?

What point are you actually trying to make here? That soccer is more popular than football? More kids play organized soccer but I’m not sure how that matters. What matters is how many watch because that’s where the money comes from. The money from NFL, college, even high school football dwarfs all the other sports and it isn’t even close.

The response was to the person who said football is more popular with kids

Literally no one said "football is more popular with kids". Reading comprehension is important when trying to engage in dialogue, at least if you want to appear intelligent.

But football is more popular than soccer with kids. It’s what they watch, talk about, wear, play fantasy leagues. Even most of the kids who play travel soccer would tell you their favorite sport is football. Soccer is just an activity their parents signed them up for.

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Anonymous wrote:If any sport will threaten football, it's basketball at the right school. Cheer and band usually switch to supporting basketball once football is over at schools with good teams,

Basketball is also THE most profitable sport for many high schools and colleges. It's also the most competitive to make a roster at a good school. That's because, compared to football, there are fewer players, very little overhead costs, very little coaching staff, and way more games played per season.

My brother-in law is an AD in LCPS. Has anyone on here has ever looked into how sport programs are funded in public high schools in this area? In most of the counties (LCPS, FCPS, ACPS, PWCS), football funds ALL the other sports at the school (besides boys basketball at a few select schools) through ticket sales and concessions. There would be no high school soccer if there wasn't football.

Football Events are very popular for a large part of the population
No disputing that

Football the game itself, not so much

Facts and statistics easily disprove this opinion, but go on queen...

Every program in FCPS, ACHS, and the majority of LCPS and PWCS have 3 levels of football high school football. 7on7 and flag teams are more popular than ever. Two “schools” opened just last year (Loudoun Sports Academy & St. James Academy) practically just for football. There is no shortage of popularity in the game itself.

How much 7v7 and flag football is being played by kids all over Virginia on the weekends compared to soccer?

I don't know. Tell us the answer and please provide sources. They should he legitimate sources, not "I think."

Let's all go with the eye test, though I'm sure numbers exist somewhere

It's obvious more kids are playing soccer on the weekend. Every school and public field is being used evenings and weekends for soccer

Maybe so but many are young, their parents put them in it to see if they "like" it. It's an activity.

Most kids who start.sports young stop that sport, ot sports general between 12-14. A lot of your "eye test" is parent driven.

As I thought, you actually have no idea how many kids are doing what. You just wanted to throw something out there without proof.

I do think you'd actually be surprised by the numbers of kids playing football. And no, like you, I have no numbers. But like you, I just "know."

According to research done by The Aspen Institute, the most common youth sports children play are basketball (36.8%), soccer (26.5%), and baseball (24.1%). This is from a comprehensive list of 39 different options, ranging from common sports like the aforementioned three to less common sports like parkour (1.1%), squash (0.7%), and fencing (1.4%).

Those numbers don't mean a lot without more information. How many people participated? Where was this research conducted, etc.

A quick Google search of "aspen institute youth sports participation" produced multiple results including an almost 150 page pdf document on the research

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Anonymous wrote:If any sport will threaten football, it's basketball at the right school. Cheer and band usually switch to supporting basketball once football is over at schools with good teams,

Basketball is also THE most profitable sport for many high schools and colleges. It's also the most competitive to make a roster at a good school. That's because, compared to football, there are fewer players, very little overhead costs, very little coaching staff, and way more games played per season.

My brother-in law is an AD in LCPS. Has anyone on here has ever looked into how sport programs are funded in public high schools in this area? In most of the counties (LCPS, FCPS, ACPS, PWCS), football funds ALL the other sports at the school (besides boys basketball at a few select schools) through ticket sales and concessions. There would be no high school soccer if there wasn't football.

Football Events are very popular for a large part of the population
No disputing that

Football the game itself, not so much

Facts and statistics easily disprove this opinion, but go on queen...

Every program in FCPS, ACHS, and the majority of LCPS and PWCS have 3 levels of football high school football. 7on7 and flag teams are more popular than ever. Two “schools” opened just last year (Loudoun Sports Academy & St. James Academy) practically just for football. There is no shortage of popularity in the game itself.

How much 7v7 and flag football is being played by kids all over Virginia on the weekends compared to soccer?

What point are you actually trying to make here? That soccer is more popular than football? More kids play organized soccer but I’m not sure how that matters. What matters is how many watch because that’s where the money comes from. The money from NFL, college, even high school football dwarfs all the other sports and it isn’t even close.

The response was to the person who said football is more popular with kids

Literally no one said "football is more popular with kids". Reading comprehension is important when trying to engage in dialogue, at least if you want to appear intelligent.

But football is more popular than soccer with kids. It’s what they watch, talk about, wear, play fantasy leagues. Even most of the kids who play travel soccer would tell you their favorite sport is football. Soccer is just an activity their parents signed them up for.

You live in Nebraska?

I don't see more kids wearing football jerseys over soccer jerseys around the dmv

Add to that, the kids in general are now more into hoodies and current trends designer name brands

[Anonymous]

People here barely know the rules of soccer. Not that interesting to watch a game when you can’t understand it.

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Anonymous wrote:If any sport will threaten football, it's basketball at the right school. Cheer and band usually switch to supporting basketball once football is over at schools with good teams,

Basketball is also THE most profitable sport for many high schools and colleges. It's also the most competitive to make a roster at a good school. That's because, compared to football, there are fewer players, very little overhead costs, very little coaching staff, and way more games played per season.

My brother-in law is an AD in LCPS. Has anyone on here has ever looked into how sport programs are funded in public high schools in this area? In most of the counties (LCPS, FCPS, ACPS, PWCS), football funds ALL the other sports at the school (besides boys basketball at a few select schools) through ticket sales and concessions. There would be no high school soccer if there wasn't football.

Football Events are very popular for a large part of the population
No disputing that

Football the game itself, not so much

Facts and statistics easily disprove this opinion, but go on queen...

Every program in FCPS, ACHS, and the majority of LCPS and PWCS have 3 levels of football high school football. 7on7 and flag teams are more popular than ever. Two “schools” opened just last year (Loudoun Sports Academy & St. James Academy) practically just for football. There is no shortage of popularity in the game itself.

How much 7v7 and flag football is being played by kids all over Virginia on the weekends compared to soccer?

What point are you actually trying to make here? That soccer is more popular than football? More kids play organized soccer but I’m not sure how that matters. What matters is how many watch because that’s where the money comes from. The money from NFL, college, even high school football dwarfs all the other sports and it isn’t even close.

The response was to the person who said football is more popular with kids

Literally no one said "football is more popular with kids". Reading comprehension is important when trying to engage in dialogue, at least if you want to appear intelligent.

But football is more popular than soccer with kids. It’s what they watch, talk about, wear, play fantasy leagues. Even most of the kids who play travel soccer would tell you their favorite sport is football. Soccer is just an activity their parents signed them up for.

Why don't the parents sign them up for football?

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Anonymous wrote:People here barely know the rules of soccer. Not that interesting to watch a game when you can’t understand it.

Good point

Plus they cant yell at the ref and other parents while watching the game on TV

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting poll question would be, how many parents on dcum played football vs soccer?

Most probably played neither, at least not well. This is why some are obsessed with their child(ren)'s sports "career.

I'm voting for soccer having the edge haha