Soccer vs American football in HS

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Anonymous wrote:I know I’ll take a lot of heat, especially the hardcore paytriots, but whats the allure with American football filling the stadium even if they know beforehand their school sucks and will get absolutely destroyed?

Vs what they call soccer here, never ever filling the stands/bleachers no matter how amazing the team is and even if they’re a contender to win the state championship?

Please explain this infatuation to a South American who simply doesn’t get it.

Not interested in specifics about how one is played with the hand and the other the foot, just curious what draws these crowds for a sport that spends 85 to 90% of time idle and has a fringe playing time of action.

Plus I see overweight and outright obese children in it just to make a human wall or crash into a running body and I can’t for the life of me understand how that’s supposed to be healthy. Subjecting a child to heart disease and diabetes before they turn 30.

Really curious. TIA!

Coupled with the fact my D1 son makes more money playing college football than most parents on this board make at their job. He loves the game and money. Even bigger money potential. Yes, could get injured playing football, or hit by a car, or crash in a plane….you get my point. PS free college too! Crummy sport though right?

But when that CTE kicks in

The “but when” logic? But when your kid gets killed in combat, but when your kid gets killed in a car accident. Your logic dictates nobody serves in the military or drives/rides in a car. Do you follow your dreams or hide in the house? Guess we all have to make our choices and live with them right?

Would you be unsuccessfully trying to make false equivalency arguments to go against the documented proven science of CTE and how it affects a large percentage of kids to adults who play football?

Loving boxing doesn't make long term effects go away either

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know I’ll take a lot of heat, especially the hardcore paytriots, but whats the allure with American football filling the stadium even if they know beforehand their school sucks and will get absolutely destroyed?

Vs what they call soccer here, never ever filling the stands/bleachers no matter how amazing the team is and even if they’re a contender to win the state championship?

Please explain this infatuation to a South American who simply doesn’t get it.

Not interested in specifics about how one is played with the hand and the other the foot, just curious what draws these crowds for a sport that spends 85 to 90% of time idle and has a fringe playing time of action.

Plus I see overweight and outright obese children in it just to make a human wall or crash into a running body and I can’t for the life of me understand how that’s supposed to be healthy. Subjecting a child to heart disease and diabetes before they turn 30.

Really curious. TIA!

Coupled with the fact my D1 son makes more money playing college football than most parents on this board make at their job. He loves the game and money. Even bigger money potential. Yes, could get injured playing football, or hit by a car, or crash in a plane….you get my point. PS free college too! Crummy sport though right?

But when that CTE kicks in

The “but when” logic? But when your kid gets killed in combat, but when your kid gets killed in a car accident. Your logic dictates nobody serves in the military or drives/rides in a car. Do you follow your dreams or hide in the house? Guess we all have to make our choices and live with them right?

A lot of these people do hide in their homes. When they do come out and if they get robbed, they'll think it's ok because the robber probably really needs the money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know I’ll take a lot of heat, especially the hardcore paytriots, but whats the allure with American football filling the stadium even if they know beforehand their school sucks and will get absolutely destroyed?

Vs what they call soccer here, never ever filling the stands/bleachers no matter how amazing the team is and even if they’re a contender to win the state championship?

Please explain this infatuation to a South American who simply doesn’t get it.

Not interested in specifics about how one is played with the hand and the other the foot, just curious what draws these crowds for a sport that spends 85 to 90% of time idle and has a fringe playing time of action.

Plus I see overweight and outright obese children in it just to make a human wall or crash into a running body and I can’t for the life of me understand how that’s supposed to be healthy. Subjecting a child to heart disease and diabetes before they turn 30.

Really curious. TIA!

Coupled with the fact my D1 son makes more money playing college football than most parents on this board make at their job. He loves the game and money. Even bigger money potential. Yes, could get injured playing football, or hit by a car, or crash in a plane….you get my point. PS free college too! Crummy sport though right?

But when that CTE kicks in

The “but when” logic? But when your kid gets killed in combat, but when your kid gets killed in a car accident. Your logic dictates nobody serves in the military or drives/rides in a car. Do you follow your dreams or hide in the house? Guess we all have to make our choices and live with them right?

Would you be unsuccessfully trying to make false equivalency arguments to go against the documented proven science of CTE and how it affects a large percentage of kids to adults who play football?

Loving boxing doesn't make long term effects go away either

Guess you totally missed my point. Who said ANYTHING about science, my point was personal decisions and dreams. Take a deep breath and reread what I said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know I’ll take a lot of heat, especially the hardcore paytriots, but whats the allure with American football filling the stadium even if they know beforehand their school sucks and will get absolutely destroyed?

Vs what they call soccer here, never ever filling the stands/bleachers no matter how amazing the team is and even if they’re a contender to win the state championship?

Please explain this infatuation to a South American who simply doesn’t get it.

Not interested in specifics about how one is played with the hand and the other the foot, just curious what draws these crowds for a sport that spends 85 to 90% of time idle and has a fringe playing time of action.

Plus I see overweight and outright obese children in it just to make a human wall or crash into a running body and I can’t for the life of me understand how that’s supposed to be healthy. Subjecting a child to heart disease and diabetes before they turn 30.

Really curious. TIA!

Coupled with the fact my D1 son makes more money playing college football than most parents on this board make at their job. He loves the game and money. Even bigger money potential. Yes, could get injured playing football, or hit by a car, or crash in a plane….you get my point. PS free college too! Crummy sport though right?

But when that CTE kicks in

The “but when” logic? But when your kid gets killed in combat, but when your kid gets killed in a car accident. Your logic dictates nobody serves in the military or drives/rides in a car. Do you follow your dreams or hide in the house? Guess we all have to make our choices and live with them right?

Would you be unsuccessfully trying to make false equivalency arguments to go against the documented proven science of CTE and how it affects a large percentage of kids to adults who play football?

Loving boxing doesn't make long term effects go away either

Guess you totally missed my point. Who said ANYTHING about science, my point was personal decisions and dreams. Take a deep breath and reread what I said.

In this house science is real. LOLOLOLOL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If any sport will threaten football, it's basketball at the right school. Cheer and band usually switch to supporting basketball once football is over at schools with good teams,

Basketball is also THE most profitable sport for many high schools and colleges. It's also the most competitive to make a roster at a good school. That's because, compared to football, there are fewer players, very little overhead costs, very little coaching staff, and way more games played per season.

My brother-in law is an AD in LCPS. Has anyone on here has ever looked into how sport programs are funded in public high schools in this area? In most of the counties (LCPS, FCPS, ACPS, PWCS), football funds ALL the other sports at the school (besides boys basketball at a few select schools) through ticket sales and concessions. There would be no high school soccer if there wasn't football.

Football Events are very popular for a large part of the population
No disputing that

Football the game itself, not so much

Facts and statistics easily disprove this opinion, but go on queen...

Every program in FCPS, ACHS, and the majority of LCPS and PWCS have 3 levels of football high school football. 7on7 and flag teams are more popular than ever. Two “schools” opened just last year (Loudoun Sports Academy & St. James Academy) practically just for football. There is no shortage of popularity in the game itself.

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My high school (went to state every year) and college (won 2 national championships while I was there) had amazing football programs. I was in the marching band and loved watching every game. In college I was in a sorority and loved the whole tailgating ritual. I think football is interesting to watch and isn’t boring like you say. Baseball is boring to me.

My son loves soccer and my dh had coached 9 seasons now. And… it’s painful to watch. I don’t understand the rules (and they change as kids get older).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If any sport will threaten football, it's basketball at the right school. Cheer and band usually switch to supporting basketball once football is over at schools with good teams,

Basketball is also THE most profitable sport for many high schools and colleges. It's also the most competitive to make a roster at a good school. That's because, compared to football, there are fewer players, very little overhead costs, very little coaching staff, and way more games played per season.

My brother-in law is an AD in LCPS. Has anyone on here has ever looked into how sport programs are funded in public high schools in this area? In most of the counties (LCPS, FCPS, ACPS, PWCS), football funds ALL the other sports at the school (besides boys basketball at a few select schools) through ticket sales and concessions. There would be no high school soccer if there wasn't football.

Football Events are very popular for a large part of the population
No disputing that

Football the game itself, not so much

Facts and statistics easily disprove this opinion, but go on queen...

Every program in FCPS, ACHS, and the majority of LCPS and PWCS have 3 levels of football high school football. 7on7 and flag teams are more popular than ever. Two “schools” opened just last year (Loudoun Sports Academy & St. James Academy) practically just for football. There is no shortage of popularity in the game itself.

How much 7v7 and flag football is being played by kids all over Virginia on the weekends compared to soccer?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If any sport will threaten football, it's basketball at the right school. Cheer and band usually switch to supporting basketball once football is over at schools with good teams,

Basketball is also THE most profitable sport for many high schools and colleges. It's also the most competitive to make a roster at a good school. That's because, compared to football, there are fewer players, very little overhead costs, very little coaching staff, and way more games played per season.

My brother-in law is an AD in LCPS. Has anyone on here has ever looked into how sport programs are funded in public high schools in this area? In most of the counties (LCPS, FCPS, ACPS, PWCS), football funds ALL the other sports at the school (besides boys basketball at a few select schools) through ticket sales and concessions. There would be no high school soccer if there wasn't football.

Football Events are very popular for a large part of the population
No disputing that

Football the game itself, not so much

Facts and statistics easily disprove this opinion, but go on queen...

Every program in FCPS, ACHS, and the majority of LCPS and PWCS have 3 levels of football high school football. 7on7 and flag teams are more popular than ever. Two “schools” opened just last year (Loudoun Sports Academy & St. James Academy) practically just for football. There is no shortage of popularity in the game itself.

How much 7v7 and flag football is being played by kids all over Virginia on the weekends compared to soccer?

I don't know. Tell us the answer and please provide sources. They should he legitimate sources, not "I think."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If any sport will threaten football, it's basketball at the right school. Cheer and band usually switch to supporting basketball once football is over at schools with good teams,

Basketball is also THE most profitable sport for many high schools and colleges. It's also the most competitive to make a roster at a good school. That's because, compared to football, there are fewer players, very little overhead costs, very little coaching staff, and way more games played per season.

My brother-in law is an AD in LCPS. Has anyone on here has ever looked into how sport programs are funded in public high schools in this area? In most of the counties (LCPS, FCPS, ACPS, PWCS), football funds ALL the other sports at the school (besides boys basketball at a few select schools) through ticket sales and concessions. There would be no high school soccer if there wasn't football.

Football Events are very popular for a large part of the population
No disputing that

Football the game itself, not so much

Facts and statistics easily disprove this opinion, but go on queen...

Every program in FCPS, ACHS, and the majority of LCPS and PWCS have 3 levels of football high school football. 7on7 and flag teams are more popular than ever. Two “schools” opened just last year (Loudoun Sports Academy & St. James Academy) practically just for football. There is no shortage of popularity in the game itself.

How much 7v7 and flag football is being played by kids all over Virginia on the weekends compared to soccer?

What point are you actually trying to make here? That soccer is more popular than football? More kids play organized soccer but I’m not sure how that matters. What matters is how many watch because that’s where the money comes from. The money from NFL, college, even high school football dwarfs all the other sports and it isn’t even close.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If any sport will threaten football, it's basketball at the right school. Cheer and band usually switch to supporting basketball once football is over at schools with good teams,

Basketball is also THE most profitable sport for many high schools and colleges. It's also the most competitive to make a roster at a good school. That's because, compared to football, there are fewer players, very little overhead costs, very little coaching staff, and way more games played per season.

My brother-in law is an AD in LCPS. Has anyone on here has ever looked into how sport programs are funded in public high schools in this area? In most of the counties (LCPS, FCPS, ACPS, PWCS), football funds ALL the other sports at the school (besides boys basketball at a few select schools) through ticket sales and concessions. There would be no high school soccer if there wasn't football.

Football Events are very popular for a large part of the population
No disputing that

Football the game itself, not so much

Facts and statistics easily disprove this opinion, but go on queen...

Every program in FCPS, ACHS, and the majority of LCPS and PWCS have 3 levels of football high school football. 7on7 and flag teams are more popular than ever. Two “schools” opened just last year (Loudoun Sports Academy & St. James Academy) practically just for football. There is no shortage of popularity in the game itself.

How much 7v7 and flag football is being played by kids all over Virginia on the weekends compared to soccer?

I don't know. Tell us the answer and please provide sources. They should he legitimate sources, not "I think."

Let's all go with the eye test, though I'm sure numbers exist somewhere

It's obvious more kids are playing soccer on the weekend. Every school and public field is being used evenings and weekends for soccer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If any sport will threaten football, it's basketball at the right school. Cheer and band usually switch to supporting basketball once football is over at schools with good teams,

Basketball is also THE most profitable sport for many high schools and colleges. It's also the most competitive to make a roster at a good school. That's because, compared to football, there are fewer players, very little overhead costs, very little coaching staff, and way more games played per season.

My brother-in law is an AD in LCPS. Has anyone on here has ever looked into how sport programs are funded in public high schools in this area? In most of the counties (LCPS, FCPS, ACPS, PWCS), football funds ALL the other sports at the school (besides boys basketball at a few select schools) through ticket sales and concessions. There would be no high school soccer if there wasn't football.

Football Events are very popular for a large part of the population
No disputing that

Football the game itself, not so much

Facts and statistics easily disprove this opinion, but go on queen...

Every program in FCPS, ACHS, and the majority of LCPS and PWCS have 3 levels of football high school football. 7on7 and flag teams are more popular than ever. Two “schools” opened just last year (Loudoun Sports Academy & St. James Academy) practically just for football. There is no shortage of popularity in the game itself.

How much 7v7 and flag football is being played by kids all over Virginia on the weekends compared to soccer?

What point are you actually trying to make here? That soccer is more popular than football? More kids play organized soccer but I’m not sure how that matters. What matters is how many watch because that’s where the money comes from. The money from NFL, college, even high school football dwarfs all the other sports and it isn’t even close.

The response was to the person who said football is more popular with kids

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If any sport will threaten football, it's basketball at the right school. Cheer and band usually switch to supporting basketball once football is over at schools with good teams,

Basketball is also THE most profitable sport for many high schools and colleges. It's also the most competitive to make a roster at a good school. That's because, compared to football, there are fewer players, very little overhead costs, very little coaching staff, and way more games played per season.

My brother-in law is an AD in LCPS. Has anyone on here has ever looked into how sport programs are funded in public high schools in this area? In most of the counties (LCPS, FCPS, ACPS, PWCS), football funds ALL the other sports at the school (besides boys basketball at a few select schools) through ticket sales and concessions. There would be no high school soccer if there wasn't football.

Football Events are very popular for a large part of the population
No disputing that

Football the game itself, not so much

Facts and statistics easily disprove this opinion, but go on queen...

Every program in FCPS, ACHS, and the majority of LCPS and PWCS have 3 levels of football high school football. 7on7 and flag teams are more popular than ever. Two “schools” opened just last year (Loudoun Sports Academy & St. James Academy) practically just for football. There is no shortage of popularity in the game itself.

How much 7v7 and flag football is being played by kids all over Virginia on the weekends compared to soccer?

I don't know. Tell us the answer and please provide sources. They should he legitimate sources, not "I think."

Let's all go with the eye test, though I'm sure numbers exist somewhere

It's obvious more kids are playing soccer on the weekend. Every school and public field is being used evenings and weekends for soccer

Maybe so but many are young, their parents put them in it to see if they "like" it. It's an activity.

Most kids who start.sports young stop that sport, ot sports general between 12-14. A lot of your "eye test" is parent driven.

As I thought, you actually have no idea how many kids are doing what. You just wanted to throw something out there without proof.

I do think you'd actually be surprised by the numbers of kids playing football. And no, like you, I have no numbers. But like you, I just "know."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If any sport will threaten football, it's basketball at the right school. Cheer and band usually switch to supporting basketball once football is over at schools with good teams,

Basketball is also THE most profitable sport for many high schools and colleges. It's also the most competitive to make a roster at a good school. That's because, compared to football, there are fewer players, very little overhead costs, very little coaching staff, and way more games played per season.

My brother-in law is an AD in LCPS. Has anyone on here has ever looked into how sport programs are funded in public high schools in this area? In most of the counties (LCPS, FCPS, ACPS, PWCS), football funds ALL the other sports at the school (besides boys basketball at a few select schools) through ticket sales and concessions. There would be no high school soccer if there wasn't football.

Football Events are very popular for a large part of the population
No disputing that

Football the game itself, not so much

Facts and statistics easily disprove this opinion, but go on queen...

Every program in FCPS, ACHS, and the majority of LCPS and PWCS have 3 levels of football high school football. 7on7 and flag teams are more popular than ever. Two “schools” opened just last year (Loudoun Sports Academy & St. James Academy) practically just for football. There is no shortage of popularity in the game itself.

How much 7v7 and flag football is being played by kids all over Virginia on the weekends compared to soccer?

I don't know. Tell us the answer and please provide sources. They should he legitimate sources, not "I think."

Let's all go with the eye test, though I'm sure numbers exist somewhere

It's obvious more kids are playing soccer on the weekend. Every school and public field is being used evenings and weekends for soccer

Maybe so but many are young, their parents put them in it to see if they "like" it. It's an activity.

Most kids who start.sports young stop that sport, ot sports general between 12-14. A lot of your "eye test" is parent driven.

As I thought, you actually have no idea how many kids are doing what. You just wanted to throw something out there without proof.

I do think you'd actually be surprised by the numbers of kids playing football. And no, like you, I have no numbers. But like you, I just "know."

According to research done by The Aspen Institute, the most common youth sports children play are basketball (36.8%), soccer (26.5%), and baseball (24.1%). This is from a comprehensive list of 39 different options, ranging from common sports like the aforementioned three to less common sports like parkour (1.1%), squash (0.7%), and fencing (1.4%).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If any sport will threaten football, it's basketball at the right school. Cheer and band usually switch to supporting basketball once football is over at schools with good teams,

Basketball is also THE most profitable sport for many high schools and colleges. It's also the most competitive to make a roster at a good school. That's because, compared to football, there are fewer players, very little overhead costs, very little coaching staff, and way more games played per season.

My brother-in law is an AD in LCPS. Has anyone on here has ever looked into how sport programs are funded in public high schools in this area? In most of the counties (LCPS, FCPS, ACPS, PWCS), football funds ALL the other sports at the school (besides boys basketball at a few select schools) through ticket sales and concessions. There would be no high school soccer if there wasn't football.

Football Events are very popular for a large part of the population
No disputing that

Football the game itself, not so much

Facts and statistics easily disprove this opinion, but go on queen...

Every program in FCPS, ACHS, and the majority of LCPS and PWCS have 3 levels of football high school football. 7on7 and flag teams are more popular than ever. Two “schools” opened just last year (Loudoun Sports Academy & St. James Academy) practically just for football. There is no shortage of popularity in the game itself.

How much 7v7 and flag football is being played by kids all over Virginia on the weekends compared to soccer?

I don't know. Tell us the answer and please provide sources. They should he legitimate sources, not "I think."

Let's all go with the eye test, though I'm sure numbers exist somewhere

It's obvious more kids are playing soccer on the weekend. Every school and public field is being used evenings and weekends for soccer

Maybe so but many are young, their parents put them in it to see if they "like" it. It's an activity.

Most kids who start.sports young stop that sport, ot sports general between 12-14. A lot of your "eye test" is parent driven.

As I thought, you actually have no idea how many kids are doing what. You just wanted to throw something out there without proof.

I do think you'd actually be surprised by the numbers of kids playing football. And no, like you, I have no numbers. But like you, I just "know."

According to research done by The Aspen Institute, the most common youth sports children play are basketball (36.8%), soccer (26.5%), and baseball (24.1%). This is from a comprehensive list of 39 different options, ranging from common sports like the aforementioned three to less common sports like parkour (1.1%), squash (0.7%), and fencing (1.4%).

Soccer, Basketball and Baseball are the top three on every youth sports list by numbers and percentage for participation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If any sport will threaten football, it's basketball at the right school. Cheer and band usually switch to supporting basketball once football is over at schools with good teams,

Basketball is also THE most profitable sport for many high schools and colleges. It's also the most competitive to make a roster at a good school. That's because, compared to football, there are fewer players, very little overhead costs, very little coaching staff, and way more games played per season.

My brother-in law is an AD in LCPS. Has anyone on here has ever looked into how sport programs are funded in public high schools in this area? In most of the counties (LCPS, FCPS, ACPS, PWCS), football funds ALL the other sports at the school (besides boys basketball at a few select schools) through ticket sales and concessions. There would be no high school soccer if there wasn't football.

Football Events are very popular for a large part of the population
No disputing that

Football the game itself, not so much

Facts and statistics easily disprove this opinion, but go on queen...

Every program in FCPS, ACHS, and the majority of LCPS and PWCS have 3 levels of football high school football. 7on7 and flag teams are more popular than ever. Two “schools” opened just last year (Loudoun Sports Academy & St. James Academy) practically just for football. There is no shortage of popularity in the game itself.

How much 7v7 and flag football is being played by kids all over Virginia on the weekends compared to soccer?

I don't know. Tell us the answer and please provide sources. They should he legitimate sources, not "I think."

Let's all go with the eye test, though I'm sure numbers exist somewhere

It's obvious more kids are playing soccer on the weekend. Every school and public field is being used evenings and weekends for soccer

Maybe so but many are young, their parents put them in it to see if they "like" it. It's an activity.

Most kids who start.sports young stop that sport, ot sports general between 12-14. A lot of your "eye test" is parent driven.

As I thought, you actually have no idea how many kids are doing what. You just wanted to throw something out there without proof.

I do think you'd actually be surprised by the numbers of kids playing football. And no, like you, I have no numbers. But like you, I just "know."

According to research done by The Aspen Institute, the most common youth sports children play are basketball (36.8%), soccer (26.5%), and baseball (24.1%). This is from a comprehensive list of 39 different options, ranging from common sports like the aforementioned three to less common sports like parkour (1.1%), squash (0.7%), and fencing (1.4%).

Soccer, Basketball and Baseball are the top three on every youth sports list by numbers and percentage for participation

Yet football, baseball and basketball, and combining attendance at the amateur and professional level in this country clearly attract the most fans to the games. Amateur soccer attracts the parents and some fans and professional games don’t pack the stadiums. Even hockey does that. Interesting phenomenon