Option H is permanent and the old Wootton HS campus will be closed for good?

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Anonymous wrote:to put it simply. School performance will go down. School ratings will go down. This directly affects property values. It always has and always will. I’m not sure what’s so hard to understand about this?

When you take a low performing school and just move the students to a different school it doesn’t actually change the way those students perform in any way shape or form.

But when you mix them with high performing students it can help

It is not the job of high performing students to pull up the scores of low performing students, that is their job and the job of their parents. All schools have same curriculum, similar facilities, it's up to the student and their families how they perform in school.

The problem is no one asks you, "What are your test scores?", they ask you, "Which school did you go to?".

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Anonymous wrote:it’s interesting how some of you seem to think test scores for some of these kids in low performing schools will somehow magically increase in a new building? Some of the lowest performing schools in the county already have the nicest facilities and top of the line equipment. The building makes zero difference for actual performance.

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I don't think that, but I also don't think the high-achieving students' test scores will go town just by having a few more poor kids in their building.

That's not how branding works. It's the average and low performing kids in the Wooton cluster that will no longer be able distinguish themselves with a brand name.

EG the low performing kids in Wooton will still be low performing kids at Crown, but they will be indistinguishable from just poor families.

Valedictorians will also just not have quite the shine that the Churchill ones do.

I don't even know what to say to that. JFC.

Right? I'm also laughing at PP thinking that people are impressed with B/C high school students as long as they come from a "W" school.

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Anonymous wrote:to put it simply. School performance will go down. School ratings will go down. This directly affects property values. It always has and always will. I’m not sure what’s so hard to understand about this?

When you take a low performing school and just move the students to a different school it doesn’t actually change the way those students perform in any way shape or form.

But when you mix them with high performing students it can help

The biggest issue these kids face is lack of parent involvement. It’s the literal number 1 reason these kids fail. Their parents are working sometimes multiple jobs and they are often home alone for extended periods of time. School is simply not the priority. This will not change when their school changes-their family stays the same. I work in a MS in the Gaithersburg district.

as a teacher, you should know that it can help when a school does not have a huge FARMs rate. It's about resources. Sure, some kids will not do well irrespective of whether they go to GHS or Crown or even Churchill, but for some, it will help.

-former low income student

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Anonymous wrote:People affected by this who currently are zoned for Wootton will lose a considerable amount of their property value I would assume? So they will just sell, move to much cheaper areas and then send to private (which they will now be able to afford since they are no longer paying for a house in the Wootton district). That’s how I see this playing out if H goes forward.

Selling at a loss, people are going to go bankrupt.

So much hysteria. Why would the value of your house go precipitously down when your high school changes from a crumbling building 1 mile from your house to a new building 3 miles from your house, with all of the same students?

Have you not been reading? Its not going to be all the same students. It will pull from Gaithersburg HS feeding schools with option H. It shows one in the initial option but plans include pulling around 1000 student from Gaithersburg HS zones.

Can you post a link to the plan that proposes adding 1000 Gaithersburg students + all of Wootton to Crown?

There is no link for adding the 1000 students yet but that was discussed by one of the school board members at a local HOS meeting last night. That being said just look up option H and you will see Rosemont Elementary is listed as being part of the plan. That’s a Gaithersburg HS feeder elementary. Then the plan is to increase from there. But it doesn’t matter, even the one school being in the plan will cause the problems.

So Wootton is so high and mighty that a poor school cannot join them? GTFO.

I really hope Fields Rd, Rosemont and maybe part of Brown Station also goes to Crown along with Wootton. They deserve a good learning environment too.

How is that a good learning environment when the school is overcrowded from the beginning and will only get worse?

What are you talking about? What school is overcrowded? Crown? They haven't even decided the boundaries yet? How is it overcrowded??? More hysteria....smh

You want to send rosemont fields road and brown station to crown while Wootton moves there. How is that not overcrowded? I guess you have no logic

I have no logic? You are spewing rumors about what elementary schools are going... the truth is that we do not know that yet.

You’re the one suggesting sending fields road and brown station, not me

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Anonymous wrote:it’s interesting how some of you seem to think test scores for some of these kids in low performing schools will somehow magically increase in a new building? Some of the lowest performing schools in the county already have the nicest facilities and top of the line equipment. The building makes zero difference for actual performance.

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I don't think that, but I also don't think the high-achieving students' test scores will go town just by having a few more poor kids in their building.

That's not how branding works. It's the average and low performing kids in the Wooton cluster that will no longer be able distinguish themselves with a brand name.

EG the low performing kids in Wooton will still be low performing kids at Crown, but they will be indistinguishable from just poor families.

Valedictorians will also just not have quite the shine that the Churchill ones do.

I don't even know what to say to that. JFC.

+100 my reaction as well

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Anonymous wrote:it’s interesting how some of you seem to think test scores for some of these kids in low performing schools will somehow magically increase in a new building? Some of the lowest performing schools in the county already have the nicest facilities and top of the line equipment. The building makes zero difference for actual performance.

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I don't think that, but I also don't think the high-achieving students' test scores will go town just by having a few more poor kids in their building.

That's not how branding works. It's the average and low performing kids in the Wooton cluster that will no longer be able distinguish themselves with a brand name.

EG the low performing kids in Wooton will still be low performing kids at Crown, but they will be indistinguishable from just poor families.

Valedictorians will also just not have quite the shine that the Churchill ones do.

I don't even know what to say to that. JFC.

Right? I'm also laughing at PP thinking that people are impressed with B/C high school students as long as they come from a "W" school.

Exactly! High performing kids will stand out even more in this case....smh

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Anonymous wrote:People affected by this who currently are zoned for Wootton will lose a considerable amount of their property value I would assume? So they will just sell, move to much cheaper areas and then send to private (which they will now be able to afford since they are no longer paying for a house in the Wootton district). That’s how I see this playing out if H goes forward.

Selling at a loss, people are going to go bankrupt.

So much hysteria. Why would the value of your house go precipitously down when your high school changes from a crumbling building 1 mile from your house to a new building 3 miles from your house, with all of the same students?

Have you not been reading? Its not going to be all the same students. It will pull from Gaithersburg HS feeding schools with option H. It shows one in the initial option but plans include pulling around 1000 student from Gaithersburg HS zones.

Can you post a link to the plan that proposes adding 1000 Gaithersburg students + all of Wootton to Crown?

There is no link for adding the 1000 students yet but that was discussed by one of the school board members at a local HOS meeting last night. That being said just look up option H and you will see Rosemont Elementary is listed as being part of the plan. That’s a Gaithersburg HS feeder elementary. Then the plan is to increase from there. But it doesn’t matter, even the one school being in the plan will cause the problems.

So Wootton is so high and mighty that a poor school cannot join them? GTFO.

I really hope Fields Rd, Rosemont and maybe part of Brown Station also goes to Crown along with Wootton. They deserve a good learning environment too.

How is that a good learning environment when the school is overcrowded from the beginning and will only get worse?

What are you talking about? What school is overcrowded? Crown? They haven't even decided the boundaries yet? How is it overcrowded??? More hysteria....smh

You want to send rosemont fields road and brown station to crown while Wootton moves there. How is that not overcrowded? I guess you have no logic

I have no logic? You are spewing rumors about what elementary schools are going... the truth is that we do not know that yet.

You’re the one suggesting sending fields road and brown station, not me

more than one person posting here buddy - i have not mentioned what schools are going where - I have no idea what elementary schools will be included in Crown - all I care is that if Wootton gets to go I do not care who else comes with us. As long as it is an apprpriate capacity, not under and not over I am happy as a parent and taxpayer.

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Anonymous wrote:to put it simply. School performance will go down. School ratings will go down. This directly affects property values. It always has and always will. I’m not sure what’s so hard to understand about this?

When you take a low performing school and just move the students to a different school it doesn’t actually change the way those students perform in any way shape or form.

But when you mix them with high performing students it can help

The biggest issue these kids face is lack of parent involvement. It’s the literal number 1 reason these kids fail. Their parents are working sometimes multiple jobs and they are often home alone for extended periods of time. School is simply not the priority. This will not change when their school changes-their family stays the same. I work in a MS in the Gaithersburg district.

as a teacher, you should know that it can help when a school does not have a huge FARMs rate. It's about resources. Sure, some kids will not do well irrespective of whether they go to GHS or Crown or even Churchill, but for some, it will help.

-former low income student

What is the threshold for the FARMS rate, where there's is a notable difference in a school's performance?

When some other school districts were trying to rebalance, they were targetting the high 20s. In the initial round of proposals, posters were saying that it was perfectly fine that Crown was projected to have a 35 to 45 percent FARMS rate because the county's average is 60 percent. (which it's not)

Part of the issue is the way that MCPS does things. Where instead of trying to raise the bottom, they try to slow down the higher performers. We saw this in our child's math class. Where they'd stop instruction several weeks early each marking period because the teacher told the class that they were ahead compared to the rest of the county.

Then you have posters on here that keep trying to gaslight people saying that no one needs to take MV Calculus in high school.

Just because the majority of the school system has issues in scoring proficient in the standardized state assessments, don't hold back the students that are able to perform on or ahead of level.

Same thing with removing/changing the countywide magnet and IB programs.

And one of the selling points that administrators at private schools would say, is that a class will move at the pace of the slowest students in the class.

-also a former low income student who's parents chose to be house poor to live in a good school district, and understand that there is more to being success at a school than just sitting in the same class with high performers and somehow hoping to gain their peers traits through osmosis or something. So realized how important it was to find a place/environment where my kids would fit in demographically, academically and economically

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Anonymous wrote:People affected by this who currently are zoned for Wootton will lose a considerable amount of their property value I would assume? So they will just sell, move to much cheaper areas and then send to private (which they will now be able to afford since they are no longer paying for a house in the Wootton district). That’s how I see this playing out if H goes forward.

Selling at a loss, people are going to go bankrupt.

So much hysteria. Why would the value of your house go precipitously down when your high school changes from a crumbling building 1 mile from your house to a new building 3 miles from your house, with all of the same students?

Have you not been reading? Its not going to be all the same students. It will pull from Gaithersburg HS feeding schools with option H. It shows one in the initial option but plans include pulling around 1000 student from Gaithersburg HS zones.

Can you post a link to the plan that proposes adding 1000 Gaithersburg students + all of Wootton to Crown?

There is no link for adding the 1000 students yet but that was discussed by one of the school board members at a local HOS meeting last night. That being said just look up option H and you will see Rosemont Elementary is listed as being part of the plan. That’s a Gaithersburg HS feeder elementary. Then the plan is to increase from there. But it doesn’t matter, even the one school being in the plan will cause the problems.

So Wootton is so high and mighty that a poor school cannot join them? GTFO.

I really hope Fields Rd, Rosemont and maybe part of Brown Station also goes to Crown along with Wootton. They deserve a good learning environment too.

How is that a good learning environment when the school is overcrowded from the beginning and will only get worse?

What are you talking about? What school is overcrowded? Crown? They haven't even decided the boundaries yet? How is it overcrowded??? More hysteria....smh

You want to send rosemont fields road and brown station to crown while Wootton moves there. How is that not overcrowded? I guess you have no logic

I have no logic? You are spewing rumors about what elementary schools are going... the truth is that we do not know that yet.

You’re the one suggesting sending fields road and brown station, not me

more than one person posting here buddy - i have not mentioned what schools are going where - I have no idea what elementary schools will be included in Crown - all I care is that if Wootton gets to go I do not care who else comes with us. As long as it is an apprpriate capacity, not under and not over I am happy as a parent and taxpayer.

Then why you jump out to argue with me not looking at what I was responding to?

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Anonymous wrote:to put it simply. School performance will go down. School ratings will go down. This directly affects property values. It always has and always will. I’m not sure what’s so hard to understand about this?

When you take a low performing school and just move the students to a different school it doesn’t actually change the way those students perform in any way shape or form.

But when you mix them with high performing students it can help

The biggest issue these kids face is lack of parent involvement. It’s the literal number 1 reason these kids fail. Their parents are working sometimes multiple jobs and they are often home alone for extended periods of time. School is simply not the priority. This will not change when their school changes-their family stays the same. I work in a MS in the Gaithersburg district.

as a teacher, you should know that it can help when a school does not have a huge FARMs rate. It's about resources. Sure, some kids will not do well irrespective of whether they go to GHS or Crown or even Churchill, but for some, it will help.

-former low income student

What is the threshold for the FARMS rate, where there's is a notable difference in a school's performance?

When some other school districts were trying to rebalance, they were targetting the high 20s. In the initial round of proposals, posters were saying that it was perfectly fine that Crown was projected to have a 35 to 45 percent FARMS rate because the county's average is 60 percent. (which it's not)

Part of the issue is the way that MCPS does things. Where instead of trying to raise the bottom, they try to slow down the higher performers. We saw this in our child's math class. Where they'd stop instruction several weeks early each marking period because the teacher told the class that they were ahead compared to the rest of the county.

Then you have posters on here that keep trying to gaslight people saying that no one needs to take MV Calculus in high school.

Just because the majority of the school system has issues in scoring proficient in the standardized state assessments, don't hold back the students that are able to perform on or ahead of level.

Same thing with removing/changing the countywide magnet and IB programs.

And one of the selling points that administrators at private schools would say, is that a class will move at the pace of the slowest students in the class.

-also a former low income student who's parents chose to be house poor to live in a good school district, and understand that there is more to being success at a school than just sitting in the same class with high performers and somehow hoping to gain their peers traits through osmosis or something. So realized how important it was to find a place/environment where my kids would fit in demographically, academically and economically

Also one of the things I often point out in the choices that people (my parents) make is comments like Jalen Rose said about his childhood. Where he said something along the lines of, growing up he and his friends didn't even know they were poor because everyone around them was poor.

So is something I've reflected about in my own childhood and seeing others with my own family background grow up in environments among other families with similar backgrounds. And is why it's important for me that my kids are in an environment where they can fit in.

This can be a diverse environment, which was one of our earlier criterias when we were searching for a home. Where we automatically ruled out any areas with more then a fifty percent population of any group and our own demographic had less then twenty percent.

I'm not saying it's okay to segregate populations by income and not to provide resources to groups that need them.

But also mixing up demographics isn't really fixing the root of the problems.

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Anonymous wrote:People affected by this who currently are zoned for Wootton will lose a considerable amount of their property value I would assume? So they will just sell, move to much cheaper areas and then send to private (which they will now be able to afford since they are no longer paying for a house in the Wootton district). That’s how I see this playing out if H goes forward.

Selling at a loss, people are going to go bankrupt.

So much hysteria. Why would the value of your house go precipitously down when your high school changes from a crumbling building 1 mile from your house to a new building 3 miles from your house, with all of the same students?

Have you not been reading? Its not going to be all the same students. It will pull from Gaithersburg HS feeding schools with option H. It shows one in the initial option but plans include pulling around 1000 student from Gaithersburg HS zones.

Can you post a link to the plan that proposes adding 1000 Gaithersburg students + all of Wootton to Crown?

There is no link for adding the 1000 students yet but that was discussed by one of the school board members at a local HOS meeting last night. That being said just look up option H and you will see Rosemont Elementary is listed as being part of the plan. That’s a Gaithersburg HS feeder elementary. Then the plan is to increase from there. But it doesn’t matter, even the one school being in the plan will cause the problems.

So Wootton is so high and mighty that a poor school cannot join them? GTFO.

I really hope Fields Rd, Rosemont and maybe part of Brown Station also goes to Crown along with Wootton. They deserve a good learning environment too.

How is that a good learning environment when the school is overcrowded from the beginning and will only get worse?

What are you talking about? What school is overcrowded? Crown? They haven't even decided the boundaries yet? How is it overcrowded??? More hysteria....smh

You want to send rosemont fields road and brown station to crown while Wootton moves there. How is that not overcrowded? I guess you have no logic

I have no logic? You are spewing rumors about what elementary schools are going... the truth is that we do not know that yet.

You’re the one suggesting sending fields road and brown station, not me

more than one person posting here buddy - i have not mentioned what schools are going where - I have no idea what elementary schools will be included in Crown - all I care is that if Wootton gets to go I do not care who else comes with us. As long as it is an apprpriate capacity, not under and not over I am happy as a parent and taxpayer.

Then why you jump out to argue with me not looking at what I was responding to?

Glad you asked - because I think that you are spreading hysteria for no reason. 1,000 plus Wootton is not going to happen and has not been available anywhere online. All three of those schools plus the current elementary schools will not happen. That would make for an over capacity situation. Maybe we lose an elementary and gain a couple of those. If that happens maybe you will get lucky and it will be your elementary school and you will get to go to QO or Churchill instead. Good for you problem solved. If not you will go to Crown with the rest of us and be just fine.

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Anonymous wrote:People affected by this who currently are zoned for Wootton will lose a considerable amount of their property value I would assume? So they will just sell, move to much cheaper areas and then send to private (which they will now be able to afford since they are no longer paying for a house in the Wootton district). That’s how I see this playing out if H goes forward.

Selling at a loss, people are going to go bankrupt.

So much hysteria. Why would the value of your house go precipitously down when your high school changes from a crumbling building 1 mile from your house to a new building 3 miles from your house, with all of the same students?

Have you not been reading? Its not going to be all the same students. It will pull from Gaithersburg HS feeding schools with option H. It shows one in the initial option but plans include pulling around 1000 student from Gaithersburg HS zones.

Can you post a link to the plan that proposes adding 1000 Gaithersburg students + all of Wootton to Crown?

There is no link for adding the 1000 students yet but that was discussed by one of the school board members at a local HOS meeting last night. That being said just look up option H and you will see Rosemont Elementary is listed as being part of the plan. That’s a Gaithersburg HS feeder elementary. Then the plan is to increase from there. But it doesn’t matter, even the one school being in the plan will cause the problems.

So Wootton is so high and mighty that a poor school cannot join them? GTFO.

I really hope Fields Rd, Rosemont and maybe part of Brown Station also goes to Crown along with Wootton. They deserve a good learning environment too.

How is that a good learning environment when the school is overcrowded from the beginning and will only get worse?

What are you talking about? What school is overcrowded? Crown? They haven't even decided the boundaries yet? How is it overcrowded??? More hysteria....smh

You want to send rosemont fields road and brown station to crown while Wootton moves there. How is that not overcrowded? I guess you have no logic

I have no logic? You are spewing rumors about what elementary schools are going... the truth is that we do not know that yet.

You’re the one suggesting sending fields road and brown station, not me

more than one person posting here buddy - i have not mentioned what schools are going where - I have no idea what elementary schools will be included in Crown - all I care is that if Wootton gets to go I do not care who else comes with us. As long as it is an apprpriate capacity, not under and not over I am happy as a parent and taxpayer.

Then why you jump out to argue with me not looking at what I was responding to?

Glad you asked - because I think that you are spreading hysteria for no reason. 1,000 plus Wootton is not going to happen and has not been available anywhere online. All three of those schools plus the current elementary schools will not happen. That would make for an over capacity situation. Maybe we lose an elementary and gain a couple of those. If that happens maybe you will get lucky and it will be your elementary school and you will get to go to QO or Churchill instead. Good for you problem solved. If not you will go to Crown with the rest of us and be just fine.

Looks like you’re the one who is in hysteria and just jumps out to bite anyone without looking at the context.

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Anonymous wrote:to put it simply. School performance will go down. School ratings will go down. This directly affects property values. It always has and always will. I’m not sure what’s so hard to understand about this?

When you take a low performing school and just move the students to a different school it doesn’t actually change the way those students perform in any way shape or form.

But when you mix them with high performing students it can help

The biggest issue these kids face is lack of parent involvement. It’s the literal number 1 reason these kids fail. Their parents are working sometimes multiple jobs and they are often home alone for extended periods of time. School is simply not the priority. This will not change when their school changes-their family stays the same. I work in a MS in the Gaithersburg district.

as a teacher, you should know that it can help when a school does not have a huge FARMs rate. It's about resources. Sure, some kids will not do well irrespective of whether they go to GHS or Crown or even Churchill, but for some, it will help.

-former low income student

What is the threshold for the FARMS rate, where there's is a notable difference in a school's performance?

When some other school districts were trying to rebalance, they were targetting the high 20s. In the initial round of proposals, posters were saying that it was perfectly fine that Crown was projected to have a 35 to 45 percent FARMS rate because the county's average is 60 percent. (which it's not)

Part of the issue is the way that MCPS does things. Where instead of trying to raise the bottom, they try to slow down the higher performers. We saw this in our child's math class. Where they'd stop instruction several weeks early each marking period because the teacher told the class that they were ahead compared to the rest of the county.

Then you have posters on here that keep trying to gaslight people saying that no one needs to take MV Calculus in high school.

Just because the majority of the school system has issues in scoring proficient in the standardized state assessments, don't hold back the students that are able to perform on or ahead of level.

Same thing with removing/changing the countywide magnet and IB programs.

And one of the selling points that administrators at private schools would say, is that a class will move at the pace of the slowest students in the class.

-also a former low income student who's parents chose to be house poor to live in a good school district, and understand that there is more to being success at a school than just sitting in the same class with high performers and somehow hoping to gain their peers traits through osmosis or something. So realized how important it was to find a place/environment where my kids would fit in demographically, academically and economically

Also one of the things I often point out in the choices that people (my parents) make is comments like Jalen Rose said about his childhood. Where he said something along the lines of, growing up he and his friends didn't even know they were poor because everyone around them was poor.

So is something I've reflected about in my own childhood and seeing others with my own family background grow up in environments among other families with similar backgrounds. And is why it's important for me that my kids are in an environment where they can fit in.

This can be a diverse environment, which was one of our earlier criterias when we were searching for a home. Where we automatically ruled out any areas with more then a fifty percent population of any group and our own demographic had less then twenty percent.

I'm not saying it's okay to segregate populations by income and not to provide resources to groups that need them.

But also mixing up demographics isn't really fixing the root of the problems.

And you think that by moving Wootton to Crown and adding in some more kids to fill it up you run this risk? Have you looked at the Wootton demographics already? It may add some poor kids but that is the only demographic that will change. Race, English speakers etc percentages will likely stay pretty comparable

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Anonymous wrote:People affected by this who currently are zoned for Wootton will lose a considerable amount of their property value I would assume? So they will just sell, move to much cheaper areas and then send to private (which they will now be able to afford since they are no longer paying for a house in the Wootton district). That’s how I see this playing out if H goes forward.

Selling at a loss, people are going to go bankrupt.

So much hysteria. Why would the value of your house go precipitously down when your high school changes from a crumbling building 1 mile from your house to a new building 3 miles from your house, with all of the same students?

Have you not been reading? Its not going to be all the same students. It will pull from Gaithersburg HS feeding schools with option H. It shows one in the initial option but plans include pulling around 1000 student from Gaithersburg HS zones.

Can you post a link to the plan that proposes adding 1000 Gaithersburg students + all of Wootton to Crown?

There is no link for adding the 1000 students yet but that was discussed by one of the school board members at a local HOS meeting last night. That being said just look up option H and you will see Rosemont Elementary is listed as being part of the plan. That’s a Gaithersburg HS feeder elementary. Then the plan is to increase from there. But it doesn’t matter, even the one school being in the plan will cause the problems.

So Wootton is so high and mighty that a poor school cannot join them? GTFO.

I really hope Fields Rd, Rosemont and maybe part of Brown Station also goes to Crown along with Wootton. They deserve a good learning environment too.

How is that a good learning environment when the school is overcrowded from the beginning and will only get worse?

What are you talking about? What school is overcrowded? Crown? They haven't even decided the boundaries yet? How is it overcrowded??? More hysteria....smh

You want to send rosemont fields road and brown station to crown while Wootton moves there. How is that not overcrowded? I guess you have no logic

I have no logic? You are spewing rumors about what elementary schools are going... the truth is that we do not know that yet.

You’re the one suggesting sending fields road and brown station, not me

more than one person posting here buddy - i have not mentioned what schools are going where - I have no idea what elementary schools will be included in Crown - all I care is that if Wootton gets to go I do not care who else comes with us. As long as it is an apprpriate capacity, not under and not over I am happy as a parent and taxpayer.

Then why you jump out to argue with me not looking at what I was responding to?

Glad you asked - because I think that you are spreading hysteria for no reason. 1,000 plus Wootton is not going to happen and has not been available anywhere online. All three of those schools plus the current elementary schools will not happen. That would make for an over capacity situation. Maybe we lose an elementary and gain a couple of those. If that happens maybe you will get lucky and it will be your elementary school and you will get to go to QO or Churchill instead. Good for you problem solved. If not you will go to Crown with the rest of us and be just fine.

Looks like you’re the one who is in hysteria and just jumps out to bite anyone without looking at the context.

What is the context you are referring to?

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Anonymous wrote:to put it simply. School performance will go down. School ratings will go down. This directly affects property values. It always has and always will. I’m not sure what’s so hard to understand about this?

When you take a low performing school and just move the students to a different school it doesn’t actually change the way those students perform in any way shape or form.

But when you mix them with high performing students it can help

The biggest issue these kids face is lack of parent involvement. It’s the literal number 1 reason these kids fail. Their parents are working sometimes multiple jobs and they are often home alone for extended periods of time. School is simply not the priority. This will not change when their school changes-their family stays the same. I work in a MS in the Gaithersburg district.

as a teacher, you should know that it can help when a school does not have a huge FARMs rate. It's about resources. Sure, some kids will not do well irrespective of whether they go to GHS or Crown or even Churchill, but for some, it will help.

-former low income student

What is the threshold for the FARMS rate, where there's is a notable difference in a school's performance?

When some other school districts were trying to rebalance, they were targetting the high 20s. In the initial round of proposals, posters were saying that it was perfectly fine that Crown was projected to have a 35 to 45 percent FARMS rate because the county's average is 60 percent. (which it's not)

Part of the issue is the way that MCPS does things. Where instead of trying to raise the bottom, they try to slow down the higher performers. We saw this in our child's math class. Where they'd stop instruction several weeks early each marking period because the teacher told the class that they were ahead compared to the rest of the county.

Then you have posters on here that keep trying to gaslight people saying that no one needs to take MV Calculus in high school.

Just because the majority of the school system has issues in scoring proficient in the standardized state assessments, don't hold back the students that are able to perform on or ahead of level.

Same thing with removing/changing the countywide magnet and IB programs.

And one of the selling points that administrators at private schools would say, is that a class will move at the pace of the slowest students in the class.

-also a former low income student who's parents chose to be house poor to live in a good school district, and understand that there is more to being success at a school than just sitting in the same class with high performers and somehow hoping to gain their peers traits through osmosis or something. So realized how important it was to find a place/environment where my kids would fit in demographically, academically and economically

Also one of the things I often point out in the choices that people (my parents) make is comments like Jalen Rose said about his childhood. Where he said something along the lines of, growing up he and his friends didn't even know they were poor because everyone around them was poor.

So is something I've reflected about in my own childhood and seeing others with my own family background grow up in environments among other families with similar backgrounds. And is why it's important for me that my kids are in an environment where they can fit in.

This can be a diverse environment, which was one of our earlier criterias when we were searching for a home. Where we automatically ruled out any areas with more then a fifty percent population of any group and our own demographic had less then twenty percent.

I'm not saying it's okay to segregate populations by income and not to provide resources to groups that need them.

But also mixing up demographics isn't really fixing the root of the problems.

And you think that by moving Wootton to Crown and adding in some more kids to fill it up you run this risk? Have you looked at the Wootton demographics already? It may add some poor kids but that is the only demographic that will change. Race, English speakers etc percentages will likely stay pretty comparable

I personally don't have any issues with Option H other than ensuring safe walking zones.

Maybe the size of the school because it means more competition for fewer spots.

But I've been advocating that Fields Road ES should be assigned to the Crown location or stay with QO since first seeing Option H.

I also have no issues if they put in more feeder schools from more lower income areas. Because like I've been saying it might help one or two students who benefits from the exposure to the peer groups and access to the resources. Which is one of the only benefits I see of the six regional model. But also like I said, it's not really doing anything to help the struggling students and just mix in their numbers with the overall numbers and end hiding them.

As long as the school doesn't do anything crazy like trying to reduce the rigors or offerings, saying something like, "well the majority of the school isn't on level, so we'll slow things down and take away some offerings" Which we did see at our elementary school when the new principal came in. But given the majority of the area that the school would be pulling from, would hope that it wouldn't be an issue.

I'm only speaking for myself though and not for other Wootton families though.