MIami IN Notre Dame Out

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Miami and ND basically played the same schedule, minus Texas A&M.

And Miami won the head to head. Seems straightforward.

See, no one’s disputing that. The question is why wait until Dec 7 to offer that as an explanation? And not only that, to affirmatively DENY until Dec 7 that the head to head mattered at all.

Anyone who actually knows anything about the process this year knows that ND’s beef isn’t with Miami getting in over it. It’s Alabama getting in over it.

Alabama deserves their CFP spot based on strength of schedule along with their performance this year (Alabama beat Georgia at Athens, Georgia when Georgia was ranked #1.)

The gist of Notre Dame's whining, pouting, & crying tantrum is that Notre Dame football says the first half of the season shouldn't count simply because ND football played poorly during most of that time. Unfortunately, all games count, the entire season counts, when being considered for a CFP bid. ND football had substantial input in designing the current CFP system expecting to benefit each and every year from an expanded number of CFP teams, but oops, ND football forgot to win against U Miami & Texas A&M before taking their traditional vacation against weak teams.

Alabama started off the season being humiliated by a pathetic Florida State team and ended up being humiliated by Georgia. I guess the “entire season” doesn’t count for them though.

Again, you're wrong. Those games did matter. Alabama just plays a tougher & longer schedule than did Notre Dame. If it didn't matter,we would not be having this discussion.

Notre Dame's best hope for continued relevance in college football is for the CFP to expand from 12 teams to 16 teams. I hope this happens as I would like to see ND football play in the post season.

The committee itself said the SEC championship game didn’t matter.

In that case, ND has no argument as Alabama had a much stronger schedule & U MIami beat Notre Dame in the regular season.

[Anonymous]

I am in favor of making even more accommodations for ND football in order to enhance ND's chances to be included in the CFP. Just expand to a 16 team CFP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am in favor of making even more accommodations for ND football in order to enhance ND's chances to be included in the CFP. Just expand to a 16 team CFP.

And if ND football can't make the cut in a 16 team CFP playoff, then expand again to a 24 team playoff with a mandate that at least two teams from the state of Indiana must be included.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get it. ND was ranked ahead of Alabama. Alabama lost and suddenly jumped ND and Miami then slides into its slot. Very sleezy moves by the committee considering neither Miami nor ND played this week. ND was slotted in the top ten for 5 weeks. CFP can no longer have any credibility.

The CFP committee evaluated each team's entire season & determined that U Miami deserved to be ranked ahead of ND. May have involved an updated assessment of each team's opponents or situation (such as did losses occur when key players were injured). Not sure of the factors, but am sure that ND athletics director had very substantial input in designing the current CFP system. Didn't go as planned for ND, so maybe we can further accommodate ND football by expanding the CFP playoff to 16 teams since expanding to 12 teams didn't get ND football into the CFP this year.

You are just plain wrong about this.

The committee ultimately concluded that the teams were about even and that the deciding factor was head to head. The chair literally said “I told everyone on the committee to go back and watch the head to head game again.” The ranking switch was 100 percent NOT based on a reevaluation of each team’s “entire season.”

[Anonymous]

Bad look for ND. Meltdown in the cereal aisle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am in favor of making even more accommodations for ND football in order to enhance ND's chances to be included in the CFP. Just expand to a 16 team CFP.

And if ND football can't make the cut in a 16 team CFP playoff, then expand again to a 24 team playoff with a mandate that at least two teams from the state of Indiana must be included.

And that at least one of the two football teams from the state of Indiana must be from a school with a religious affiliation and such affiliation must be with the Catholic faith.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get it. ND was ranked ahead of Alabama. Alabama lost and suddenly jumped ND and Miami then slides into its slot. Very sleezy moves by the committee considering neither Miami nor ND played this week. ND was slotted in the top ten for 5 weeks. CFP can no longer have any credibility.

The CFP committee evaluated each team's entire season & determined that U Miami deserved to be ranked ahead of ND. May have involved an updated assessment of each team's opponents or situation (such as did losses occur when key players were injured). Not sure of the factors, but am sure that ND athletics director had very substantial input in designing the current CFP system. Didn't go as planned for ND, so maybe we can further accommodate ND football by expanding the CFP playoff to 16 teams since expanding to 12 teams didn't get ND football into the CFP this year.

You are just plain wrong about this.

The committee ultimately concluded that the teams were about even and that the deciding factor was head to head. The chair literally said “I told everyone on the committee to go back and watch the head to head game again.” The ranking switch was 100 percent NOT based on a reevaluation of each team’s “entire season.”

Whether right or wrong, I am certain that Notre Dame football will not play in the CFP this year.

And I am also certain that Notre Dame football team will not be in a post-season bowl game this year.

[Anonymous]

And I am also certain that Notre Dame football is no longer relevant this season.

And I suspect that Notre Dame football will see decommits this year & not be ranked among the top 10 teams in next season's pre-season rankings. Which is bad news for ND football as it will have to prove itself on the field. Ooopsy !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bad look for ND. Meltdown in the cereal aisle.

This is such bullshit. Anyone who is even slightly objective has to concede that the committee did a terrible job and led Notre Dame on before pulling the rug out from under them.

Can anyone dispute that this is how it all went down:

Basically you had to be in the top ten to get into the playoff as an at large team.
For several weeks in a row the committee rankings were

9. Notre Dame
10. Alabama
11. BYU
12. Miami

Then in the last week of the regular season and out of the blue they switched it to

9. Alabama
10. ND
11. BYU
12. Miami

They said they made the switch because Alabama was “impressive” in squeaking by a touchdown over Auburn, even though Auburn’s record was only 5-7 and the game was in doubt until the very end

That same weekend ND flew out to Stanford, 4-8, and won by 29 points after resting all its starters in a game that didn’t even start until 10:30 pm in ND’s time zone

The following weekend Alabama and BYU play in their conference championship games. Both get embarrassed

Notre dame and Miami didn’t play games because their seasons were over

So the final rankings come out:

9. Alabama
10. Miami
11. ND
12. BYU

The committee “explained” that it didn’t drop Alabama because it shouldn’t be penalized for playing an extra game (the championship game for their conference) no matter how badly they played

BUT they penalized BYU for the same exact thing and dropped them!

It then “explained” that with ND and Miami now right next to each other the tie breaker was that they played each other in August at Miami and Miami won by 3. So they moved Miami up to 10 and ND down to 11 and out of the playoffs

BUT here’s the thing: they’ve known since DAY ONE that Miami won that game but every single week still ranked ND ahead of Miami because they said ND’s entire season was more impressive.

If this isn’t pulling the rug out from under a bunch of 19 and 20 year olds, what is?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And I am also certain that Notre Dame football is no longer relevant this season.

And I suspect that Notre Dame football will see decommits this year & not be ranked among the top 10 teams in next season's pre-season rankings. Which is bad news for ND football as it will have to prove itself on the field. Ooopsy !

They’ll be top ten easily. Your bias is showing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bad look for ND. Meltdown in the cereal aisle.

This is such bullshit. Anyone who is even slightly objective has to concede that the committee did a terrible job and led Notre Dame on before pulling the rug out from under them.

Can anyone dispute that this is how it all went down:

Basically you had to be in the top ten to get into the playoff as an at large team.
For several weeks in a row the committee rankings were

9. Notre Dame
10. Alabama
11. BYU
12. Miami

Then in the last week of the regular season and out of the blue they switched it to

9. Alabama
10. ND
11. BYU
12. Miami

They said they made the switch because Alabama was “impressive” in squeaking by a touchdown over Auburn, even though Auburn’s record was only 5-7 and the game was in doubt until the very end

That same weekend ND flew out to Stanford, 4-8, and won by 29 points after resting all its starters in a game that didn’t even start until 10:30 pm in ND’s time zone

The following weekend Alabama and BYU play in their conference championship games. Both get embarrassed

Notre dame and Miami didn’t play games because their seasons were over

So the final rankings come out:

9. Alabama
10. Miami
11. ND
12. BYU

The committee “explained” that it didn’t drop Alabama because it shouldn’t be penalized for playing an extra game (the championship game for their conference) no matter how badly they played

BUT they penalized BYU for the same exact thing and dropped them!

It then “explained” that with ND and Miami now right next to each other the tie breaker was that they played each other in August at Miami and Miami won by 3. So they moved Miami up to 10 and ND down to 11 and out of the playoffs

BUT here’s the thing: they’ve known since DAY ONE that Miami won that game but every single week still ranked ND ahead of Miami because they said ND’s entire season was more impressive.

If this isn’t pulling the rug out from under a bunch of 19 and 20 year olds, what is?

Let’s teach 19 and 20 year olds to act like an entitled p.o.s.

Did ND ask the seniors if they wanted to finish their career in a bowl?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And I am also certain that Notre Dame football is no longer relevant this season.

And I suspect that Notre Dame football will see decommits this year & not be ranked among the top 10 teams in next season's pre-season rankings. Which is bad news for ND football as it will have to prove itself on the field. Ooopsy !

100% wrong. You will see. ND will be going into next season with even more fire

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bad look for ND. Meltdown in the cereal aisle.

This is such bullshit. Anyone who is even slightly objective has to concede that the committee did a terrible job and led Notre Dame on before pulling the rug out from under them.

Can anyone dispute that this is how it all went down:

Basically you had to be in the top ten to get into the playoff as an at large team.
For several weeks in a row the committee rankings were

9. Notre Dame
10. Alabama
11. BYU
12. Miami

Then in the last week of the regular season and out of the blue they switched it to

9. Alabama
10. ND
11. BYU
12. Miami

They said they made the switch because Alabama was “impressive” in squeaking by a touchdown over Auburn, even though Auburn’s record was only 5-7 and the game was in doubt until the very end

That same weekend ND flew out to Stanford, 4-8, and won by 29 points after resting all its starters in a game that didn’t even start until 10:30 pm in ND’s time zone

The following weekend Alabama and BYU play in their conference championship games. Both get embarrassed

Notre dame and Miami didn’t play games because their seasons were over

So the final rankings come out:

9. Alabama
10. Miami
11. ND
12. BYU

The committee “explained” that it didn’t drop Alabama because it shouldn’t be penalized for playing an extra game (the championship game for their conference) no matter how badly they played

BUT they penalized BYU for the same exact thing and dropped them!

It then “explained” that with ND and Miami now right next to each other the tie breaker was that they played each other in August at Miami and Miami won by 3. So they moved Miami up to 10 and ND down to 11 and out of the playoffs

BUT here’s the thing: they’ve known since DAY ONE that Miami won that game but every single week still ranked ND ahead of Miami because they said ND’s entire season was more impressive.

If this isn’t pulling the rug out from under a bunch of 19 and 20 year olds, what is?

Let’s teach 19 and 20 year olds to act like an entitled p.o.s.

Did ND ask the seniors if they wanted to finish their career in a bowl?

Players had input in the decision. Bowl game is meaningless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t get it. ND was ranked ahead of Alabama. Alabama lost and suddenly jumped ND and Miami then slides into its slot. Very sleezy moves by the committee considering neither Miami nor ND played this week. ND was slotted in the top ten for 5 weeks. CFP can no longer have any credibility.

Rankings are not standings. This is the weirdness of the CFP. Rankings are only ever a subjective guess on how teams compare based on a variety of factors that never line up perfectly between teams.

The embarrassment for the CFP is that they ever ranked ND of Alabama, a team that had a better or equal record to ND all season while beating tougher teams and playing a much more grueling schedule. It's a reflection of the CFP's fondness for ND's television ratings.

[Anonymous]

Why can’t anyone just say that the SEC as it stands as a conference is the problem in and of itself. Everyone can agree that several of their teams belong in over Tulane and JMU based on quality of play, but isn’t it their own fault for playing in a conference where it’s pretty impossible to be one of the top teams in it? If the ACC wants to stay relevant then they need to pick up ND and one of the SEC mid-table teams (Vandy would slot in nicely, but might lose its recruits for next year if it bolted). Heck, even JMU if Tech doesn’t get its act together. At any rate, then those teams would be a shoo-in for CFP next year.