MIami IN Notre Dame Out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Miami and ND basically played the same schedule, minus Texas A&M.

And Miami won the head to head. Seems straightforward.

See, no one’s disputing that. The question is why wait until Dec 7 to offer that as an explanation? And not only that, to affirmatively DENY until Dec 7 that the head to head mattered at all.

Anyone who actually knows anything about the process this year knows that ND’s beef isn’t with Miami getting in over it. It’s Alabama getting in over it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Miami and ND basically played the same schedule, minus Texas A&M.

And Miami won the head to head. Seems straightforward.

100% correct.

Notre Dame football probably considers playing in a non-CFP post season bowl game as too risky because ND would probably lose a bowl game against a non-CFP team. ND players would not be motivated enough to play well after failing to make the 12 team cut for the CFP.

Again revealing your stupidity. The CFP isn’t set up for the 12 top teams because 5 are automatic qualifiers. The committee itself determined that ND is, in fact, a top 12 team. And as recently as this morning Vegas had ND as one of the favorites to win the whole thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame has reached the end as an "independent" school. Playing Stanford, Syracuse, Pitt, Navy and other non-competitive teams at the end of the schedule. What's the point?

Notre Dame would get destroyed if they played an SEC schedule.

Mediocre.

This. ND's two toughest matchups this season came in weeks 1 and 2 (Miami and Texas A&M). They lost them both. And then they went on their out of garbage opponents. What a joke.

Yes. If anything, ND should just join the ACC and stop being snobby about it. They'd get destroyed in the SEC or B10, but could likely run the ACC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Miami and ND basically played the same schedule, minus Texas A&M.

And Miami won the head to head. Seems straightforward.

See, no one’s disputing that. The question is why wait until Dec 7 to offer that as an explanation? And not only that, to affirmatively DENY until Dec 7 that the head to head mattered at all.

Anyone who actually knows anything about the process this year knows that ND’s beef isn’t with Miami getting in over it. It’s Alabama getting in over it.

Alabama deserves their CFP spot based on strength of schedule along with their performance this year (Alabama beat Georgia at Athens, Georgia when Georgia was ranked #1.)

The gist of Notre Dame's whining, pouting, & crying tantrum is that Notre Dame football says the first half of the season shouldn't count simply because ND football played poorly during most of that time. Unfortunately, all games count, the entire season counts, when being considered for a CFP bid. ND football had substantial input in designing the current CFP system expecting to benefit each and every year from an expanded number of CFP teams, but oops, ND football forgot to win against U Miami & Texas A&M before taking their traditional vacation against weak teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Miami and ND basically played the same schedule, minus Texas A&M.

And Miami won the head to head. Seems straightforward.

100% correct.

Notre Dame football probably considers playing in a non-CFP post season bowl game as too risky because ND would probably lose a bowl game against a non-CFP team. ND players would not be motivated enough to play well after failing to make the 12 team cut for the CFP.

Again revealing your stupidity. The CFP isn’t set up for the 12 top teams because 5 are automatic qualifiers. The committee itself determined that ND is, in fact, a top 12 team. And as recently as this morning Vegas had ND as one of the favorites to win the whole thing.

You sure are adept at insulting other posters. Bet you get a lot of practice. Unfortunately for ND football, ND athletic director had substantial input in designing the current system in order to benefit ND football, but oopsy, things backfired when strength of schedule came into play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame has reached the end as an "independent" school. Playing Stanford, Syracuse, Pitt, Navy and other non-competitive teams at the end of the schedule. What's the point?

Notre Dame would get destroyed if they played an SEC schedule.

Mediocre.

This. ND's two toughest matchups this season came in weeks 1 and 2 (Miami and Texas A&M). They lost them both. And then they went on their out of garbage opponents. What a joke.

Yes. If anything, ND should just join the ACC and stop being snobby about it. They'd get destroyed in the SEC or B10, but could likely run the ACC.

I hope ND exits the ACC. See what happens to them then. They’ve been keeping them afloat. Maybe time to have the rest of the ND teams join Big 10 and keep football independent. Other ACC teams like Clemson will follow. ACC will be screwed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Miami and ND basically played the same schedule, minus Texas A&M.

And Miami won the head to head. Seems straightforward.

See, no one’s disputing that. The question is why wait until Dec 7 to offer that as an explanation? And not only that, to affirmatively DENY until Dec 7 that the head to head mattered at all.

Anyone who actually knows anything about the process this year knows that ND’s beef isn’t with Miami getting in over it. It’s Alabama getting in over it.

Alabama deserves their CFP spot based on strength of schedule along with their performance this year (Alabama beat Georgia at Athens, Georgia when Georgia was ranked #1.)

The gist of Notre Dame's whining, pouting, & crying tantrum is that Notre Dame football says the first half of the season shouldn't count simply because ND football played poorly during most of that time. Unfortunately, all games count, the entire season counts, when being considered for a CFP bid. ND football had substantial input in designing the current CFP system expecting to benefit each and every year from an expanded number of CFP teams, but oops, ND football forgot to win against U Miami & Texas A&M before taking their traditional vacation against weak teams.

Alabama started off the season being humiliated by a pathetic Florida State team and ended up being humiliated by Georgia. I guess the “entire season” doesn’t count for them though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame has reached the end as an "independent" school. Playing Stanford, Syracuse, Pitt, Navy and other non-competitive teams at the end of the schedule. What's the point?

Notre Dame would get destroyed if they played an SEC schedule.

Mediocre.

This. ND's two toughest matchups this season came in weeks 1 and 2 (Miami and Texas A&M). They lost them both. And then they went on their out of garbage opponents. What a joke.

Yes. If anything, ND should just join the ACC and stop being snobby about it. They'd get destroyed in the SEC or B10, but could likely run the ACC.

Reasonable thought.

Agree that ND football would suffer playing in one of the two most grueling conferences (Big Ten & SEC), but could dominate the ACC (except for u Miami).

College football conferences are still developing. Both the SEC & the Big Ten may expand further and end up leaving the NCAA & the CFP as those two conferences won't need to share any revenue with non-members. Both the SEC & the Big Ten Conference may expand to 24 teams and limit play to just those 48 teams. It is being discussed.

[Anonymous]

I don’t get it. ND was ranked ahead of Alabama. Alabama lost and suddenly jumped ND and Miami then slides into its slot. Very sleezy moves by the committee considering neither Miami nor ND played this week. ND was slotted in the top ten for 5 weeks. CFP can no longer have any credibility.

[Anonymous]

Outside of three teams, the B10 is a creampuff.

ND handily beat USC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Miami and ND basically played the same schedule, minus Texas A&M.

And Miami won the head to head. Seems straightforward.

See, no one’s disputing that. The question is why wait until Dec 7 to offer that as an explanation? And not only that, to affirmatively DENY until Dec 7 that the head to head mattered at all.

Anyone who actually knows anything about the process this year knows that ND’s beef isn’t with Miami getting in over it. It’s Alabama getting in over it.

Alabama deserves their CFP spot based on strength of schedule along with their performance this year (Alabama beat Georgia at Athens, Georgia when Georgia was ranked #1.)

The gist of Notre Dame's whining, pouting, & crying tantrum is that Notre Dame football says the first half of the season shouldn't count simply because ND football played poorly during most of that time. Unfortunately, all games count, the entire season counts, when being considered for a CFP bid. ND football had substantial input in designing the current CFP system expecting to benefit each and every year from an expanded number of CFP teams, but oops, ND football forgot to win against U Miami & Texas A&M before taking their traditional vacation against weak teams.

Alabama started off the season being humiliated by a pathetic Florida State team and ended up being humiliated by Georgia. I guess the “entire season” doesn’t count for them though.

Again, you're wrong. Those games did matter. Alabama just plays a tougher & longer schedule than did Notre Dame. If it didn't matter,we would not be having this discussion.

Notre Dame's best hope for continued relevance in college football is for the CFP to expand from 12 teams to 16 teams. I hope this happens as I would like to see ND football play in the post season.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame has reached the end as an "independent" school. Playing Stanford, Syracuse, Pitt, Navy and other non-competitive teams at the end of the schedule. What's the point?

Notre Dame would get destroyed if they played an SEC schedule.

Mediocre.

This. ND's two toughest matchups this season came in weeks 1 and 2 (Miami and Texas A&M). They lost them both. And then they went on their out of garbage opponents. What a joke.

Yes. If anything, ND should just join the ACC and stop being snobby about it. They'd get destroyed in the SEC or B10, but could likely run the ACC.

Reasonable thought.

Agree that ND football would suffer playing in one of the two most grueling conferences (Big Ten & SEC), but could dominate the ACC (except for u Miami).

College football conferences are still developing. Both the SEC & the Big Ten may expand further and end up leaving the NCAA & the CFP as those two conferences won't need to share any revenue with non-members. Both the SEC & the Big Ten Conference may expand to 24 teams and limit play to just those 48 teams. It is being discussed.

You have a very short memory span. ND made it all the way to the championship game just last year by beating two Big Ten teams (IU and Penn State) and the SEC champion Georgia. So much for “suffering.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame has reached the end as an "independent" school. Playing Stanford, Syracuse, Pitt, Navy and other non-competitive teams at the end of the schedule. What's the point?

Notre Dame would get destroyed if they played an SEC schedule.

Mediocre.

This. ND's two toughest matchups this season came in weeks 1 and 2 (Miami and Texas A&M). They lost them both. And then they went on their out of garbage opponents. What a joke.

Yes. If anything, ND should just join the ACC and stop being snobby about it. They'd get destroyed in the SEC or B10, but could likely run the ACC.

I hope ND exits the ACC. See what happens to them then. They’ve been keeping them afloat. Maybe time to have the rest of the ND teams join Big 10 and keep football independent. Other ACC teams like Clemson will follow. ACC will be screwed.

ND isn't in the ACC. They are independent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Miami and ND basically played the same schedule, minus Texas A&M.

And Miami won the head to head. Seems straightforward.

See, no one’s disputing that. The question is why wait until Dec 7 to offer that as an explanation? And not only that, to affirmatively DENY until Dec 7 that the head to head mattered at all.

Anyone who actually knows anything about the process this year knows that ND’s beef isn’t with Miami getting in over it. It’s Alabama getting in over it.

Alabama deserves their CFP spot based on strength of schedule along with their performance this year (Alabama beat Georgia at Athens, Georgia when Georgia was ranked #1.)

The gist of Notre Dame's whining, pouting, & crying tantrum is that Notre Dame football says the first half of the season shouldn't count simply because ND football played poorly during most of that time. Unfortunately, all games count, the entire season counts, when being considered for a CFP bid. ND football had substantial input in designing the current CFP system expecting to benefit each and every year from an expanded number of CFP teams, but oops, ND football forgot to win against U Miami & Texas A&M before taking their traditional vacation against weak teams.

Alabama started off the season being humiliated by a pathetic Florida State team and ended up being humiliated by Georgia. I guess the “entire season” doesn’t count for them though.

Again, you're wrong. Those games did matter. Alabama just plays a tougher & longer schedule than did Notre Dame. If it didn't matter,we would not be having this discussion.

Notre Dame's best hope for continued relevance in college football is for the CFP to expand from 12 teams to 16 teams. I hope this happens as I would like to see ND football play in the post season.

The committee itself said the SEC championship game didn’t matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t get it. ND was ranked ahead of Alabama. Alabama lost and suddenly jumped ND and Miami then slides into its slot. Very sleezy moves by the committee considering neither Miami nor ND played this week. ND was slotted in the top ten for 5 weeks. CFP can no longer have any credibility.

The CFP committee evaluated each team's entire season & determined that U Miami deserved to be ranked ahead of ND. May have involved an updated assessment of each team's opponents or situation (such as did losses occur when key players were injured). Not sure of the factors, but am sure that ND athletics director had very substantial input in designing the current CFP system. Didn't go as planned for ND, so maybe we can further accommodate ND football by expanding the CFP playoff to 16 teams since expanding to 12 teams didn't get ND football into the CFP this year.