Exactly. I do not care a whit when they 'expect' it. |
Trust me these were surprisingly normal looking, highly educated and reputable men. All had long term prior marriages; and GFs who stayed with them for a least a year. I was shocked myself to find out so many women are tolerating this behavior to the point of the men thinking it’s normal. |
They were tras |
They were trashy men. The things you listed doesn't make a man non trashy. And don't blame the women for the mens behavior |
One of them said his ex GF never complained at anything and that I was a nag for telling him he should ask me first before placing fingers in my butt. A founder of a large NASA program and a CEO of a large company presently |
And maybe she was okay with it. Doesn't mean he gets to impose that on another woman. The issue is him. You also don't seem to understand that having an education or a fancy job doesn't make a guy respects me or have good character. Poor character and entitlement comes at any career level and abusive and entitled men often have high powered jobs You really need to rethink how you evaluate someone's character. You also need to unlearn your misogyny. Women are not responsible for training men or their bad behavior. That individual man is responsible for his actions.period. |
Women are not responsible for training them but lots of women lack self respect. I chose not to train him but me simply getting dressed and leaving him without finishing the act was triggering enough, so he’s unlikely to repeat it. We also had a lengthy conversation after how he would feel if some man did this to his daughter. I’ve met normal men, too, so my picker is fine. A poor policeman, a teacher or an army sergeant is just as likely or even more likely to be sexual predator. Generally people who invest time in education are also more educated in sex and treat women better. You have no clue how construction workers treat their wives and GFs - I do. |
What’s wrong with traditional gender roles when it comes to sex? Do you want to change all traditional roles? |
I’m a man and I expect sex on the second date. |
| I don't know how men operate. But as a woman if I want a man he'll know. As soon as I do. |
Wanting doesn’t hurt… |
How can you expect them to respect u while u r committing adultry with them ? |
Adultery ? Do you read - I said exGF ; exW |
Correction: how do you expect respect from them while fornicating with them? |
Ah, no sex before marriage wacko again. |