| I would not be having sex until exclusivity is established and I have developed feelings for him. That may mean waiting a few months. |
No freaking way. Gotta take the car for a test drive. |
But you'll make Baby Jesus cry! |
That will add up sins in your account. |
Got a chuckle out of that!
Isn't 1-5 dates the norm? |
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Very interesting to see how many people still cling to traditional gender roles when it comes to sex.
Men "expect" sex and woman "put out" I guess? Could we ask "How early into dating do women expect sex?" Every man would presumably jump when it's offered? |
I don’t believe in the concept of sin. |
Women are more exposed to STDs, pregnancy , and emotional risks if he crosses boundaries. I had men try to insert D in my mouth by pushing my head down; try to insert fingers in my butt; stealth me (without any prior discussion. ). These were not trashy men - all so called “high value”. Since women are the party carrying here most risks, genders truly are not equal in attitudes and risks engaging in sex. Women can mitigate these risks by only engaging with known partners who care for them |
Your experience doesn't negate pps point which is the sexist idea that sex isn't something women enjoy it's something they provide men with. That sort of thinking leads to the disgusting behavior by the trashy men you describe - a woman's body is something he's entitled to after x amount of time, effort money etc. Unfortunately waiting doesn't remove the risk .Also a man's value his actual value not his bank account, job title or style is determined by his character. |
I personally agree that waiting doesn’t remove the risk. In fact, most s...t like that hits the fan during and after sex. If I waited for 2-3 months to discover they were arrogant asshats it would be a huge time waste for me. But allowing for a few dates at least to figure out if the person is safe, checking STD tests, using protection are the absolute musts. Unfortunately a lot of seemingly decent men are jerks after closer look. Their wives divorced them all for a reason (and women are the party initiating divorces so future GFs of these men should refer to that as a starting point). |
| As a man, I have no expected timeline other than that we are enjoying each others company, are progressing, and it's not unreasonably off the table in the future. However if you're still having one night stands, or express how you 'normally' have sex earlier in relationships than you want to with me, I'm out. |
Umm they were trashy men who assaulted you. I’m sorry that happened to you. That said there is no number of dates that allows you to mitigate the risk of abusive (or just bad) sex. There are ways to tell by testing the waters. |
I think you are probably joking. But unmarried sex is like the LAST thing I worry about on judgment day. I worry a lot more about the fact that I don’t volunteer or donate enough, not visiting elderly relatives enough, wasting time on the Internet instead of feeding my soul. Heck, having some good sex instead of posting on DCUM would probably be much more likely to get me into heaven. |
Most people consider sex to be much more than PIV. |
Of course it varies. Also who cares? If I want to have sex I will and if I don't I won't. |