University of Florida

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Anonymous wrote:Florida is trying to eliminate property taxes. They already have no income tax. The government budget is only $119 billion. By way of comparison California's government budget is $413 billion. Florida only owes $15 billion in debt, compared to $600 billion in debt issued by California. Florida's population is 24 million; California's is 39 million.

You can see that California invests more in its people. While Florida looks more fiscally sound, California has much less poverty, better infrastructure, fewer homeless, no drugs and much higher education achievement (except if you compare high school students, Florida scores higher there, I'll grant you that).

California does not have much less poverty. CA has 4.6 million poor, FL has 2.7 million. Per capita they are about the same (12 percent vs 12.3 percent).

California has the highest homeless population in the country - 187,000 - versus 32,000 in Florida.

Drug overdose rate per 100,000 is about the same in California and Florida, though of course many more total deaths in CA.

So, no, you cannot in fact see that California invests more in its people.

As for their infrastructure, when will California get that high speed rail thing finished, lmao?

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Anonymous wrote:My older son is a senior at Cornell and younger one at UF , both in engineering. Unfortunately we couldn’t pay T20 fees for the younger one - where he got in - and settled for UF which is essentially free . When they come home and discuss I see the pain in the younger one … hope we didn’t sacrifice his future for the sake of saving some money… I feel 😞

I'd be very bitter if I were your younger kid. You 100% screwed him and he will never forget it.

Oh, come on. Check in with them again in Jan when Ithaca is under 2ft of snow and Gainesville is in the 80s.

Check with them in a few years when one has a Cornell degree and the other a Florida degree.

I really hope that PP with the Florida and Cornell kids is a troll.

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Do they really have online only for freshmen? That sounds awful.

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Anonymous wrote:Florida is a curious case of having an overall US News ranking that is higher than the rankings of almost all of its majors. Sure, the two are determined using completely different formulas, but one would think that a school's overall ranking is more or less sandwiched between its highest and lowest major rankings. Not the case with UF, as very few of its majors is top 30 and almost none is top 20. And yet its overall ranking is 30.

Florida is a beneficiary of the US News current bias towards large public schools. It does a good job of providing a cheap education to lots of kids, but not a great education.

How are you arriving at that conclusion? What are the metrics you use? Graduates have jobs? They go to grad school? How exactly can you tell whether or not they got a "great education"?

For a lot of people, it means "I think this school is prestigious". But you can definitely get a great education at a school that isn't prestigious.

Reliance on online education, very liberal acceptance of AP and community college credits, and high student faculty ratio (16:1). Florida doesn’t even guarantee housing for freshman so there’s no real sense of community.

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Anonymous wrote:It is very very hard to get in. I know of several who got into places like UVA and Chicago and Michigan and did not get into Florida. It is shocking but true.

That’s the definition of yield protection.

No it's the definition of "that kid fit the priorities of UVA and Chicago and Michigan and did not fit the priorities of Florida for that admission year".

Nope, Florida is known to yield protect.

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Anonymous wrote:Florida is a curious case of having an overall US News ranking that is higher than the rankings of almost all of its majors. Sure, the two are determined using completely different formulas, but one would think that a school's overall ranking is more or less sandwiched between its highest and lowest major rankings. Not the case with UF, as very few of its majors is top 30 and almost none is top 20. And yet its overall ranking is 30.

Florida is a beneficiary of the US News current bias towards large public schools. It does a good job of providing a cheap education to lots of kids, but not a great education.

That's simplistic. University of Alabama and LSU are ranked #169 as examples. There is something about Florida that gets it to #30 vs. plenty of large public schools that rank far below it.

Florida has been a great university for a very long time. Even when all male, plus outstanding law and medical schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Do they really have online only for freshmen? That sounds awful.

If true, it will be a deal breaker for this parent with an DC interested in the school.

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Anonymous wrote:Do they really have online only for freshmen? That sounds awful.

If true, it will be a deal breaker for this parent with an DC interested in the school.

It’s not for all freshman, it’s a special route for kids who are marginal for acceptance, first year entirely online. For certain majors, however, online classes are common throughout the four years.

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Anonymous wrote:It is very very hard to get in. I know of several who got into places like UVA and Chicago and Michigan and did not get into Florida. It is shocking but true.

That’s the definition of yield protection.

No it's the definition of "that kid fit the priorities of UVA and Chicago and Michigan and did not fit the priorities of Florida for that admission year".

Nope, Florida is known to yield protect.

Nope, you just couldn’t get in.

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Anonymous wrote:It is very very hard to get in. I know of several who got into places like UVA and Chicago and Michigan and did not get into Florida. It is shocking but true.

That’s the definition of yield protection.

No it's the definition of "that kid fit the priorities of UVA and Chicago and Michigan and did not fit the priorities of Florida for that admission year".

Nope, Florida is known to yield protect.

Nope, you just couldn’t get in.

lol, thanks for the laugh, I went to a T10 private.

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Anonymous wrote:It is very very hard to get in. I know of several who got into places like UVA and Chicago and Michigan and did not get into Florida. It is shocking but true.

That’s the definition of yield protection.

No it's the definition of "that kid fit the priorities of UVA and Chicago and Michigan and did not fit the priorities of Florida for that admission year".

Nope, Florida is known to yield protect.

Nope, you just couldn’t get in.

lol, thanks for the laugh, I went to a T10 private.

So? That doesn’t mean you would have gotten into a top flagship, especially honors. lol joke is on you.

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Anonymous wrote:It is very very hard to get in. I know of several who got into places like UVA and Chicago and Michigan and did not get into Florida. It is shocking but true.

That’s the definition of yield protection.

No it's the definition of "that kid fit the priorities of UVA and Chicago and Michigan and did not fit the priorities of Florida for that admission year".

Nope, Florida is known to yield protect.

Nope, nobody knows anything about whether or not any school "yield protects", it's all sheer desperation and cope ("my kid got rejected, obviously yield protection").

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Anonymous wrote:It is very very hard to get in. I know of several who got into places like UVA and Chicago and Michigan and did not get into Florida. It is shocking but true.

That’s the definition of yield protection.

No it's the definition of "that kid fit the priorities of UVA and Chicago and Michigan and did not fit the priorities of Florida for that admission year".

Nope, Florida is known to yield protect.

Nope, you just couldn’t get in.

lol, thanks for the laugh, I went to a T10 private.

Still couldn't hack it in the FREE STATE of FLORIDA.

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Anonymous wrote:Do they really have online only for freshmen? That sounds awful.

If true, it will be a deal breaker for this parent with an DC interested in the school.

It’s not for all freshman, it’s a special route for kids who are marginal for acceptance, first year entirely online. For certain majors, however, online classes are common throughout the four years.

I know families make tough calls when it comes to kids getting into school but I am 100% against online classes for undergraduate students earning a degree at a traditional college/university. Might as well go to the University of Phoenix.

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Anonymous wrote:Do they really have online only for freshmen? That sounds awful.

Some majors (I know business) have mostly online classes. They will tell you your kid can join in person but from what we could tell there are hundreds and hundreds of kids in each section and small classrooms for a fraction of the enrolled students to be physically with the professor. They will also tell you the kids love it, can schedule their time with work, hobbies etc but still…