AP Classes and IEPs

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Anonymous wrote:An IEP is made to support a students ability to access the curriculum. If your kid is in AP classes, they are more than accessing the curriculum. Hence, no support required.

This is not true. Bright kids who have an IEP and are otherwise qualified for an AP or any advanced class or magnet have a right to the same supports and accommodations in the AP or advanced class.

Whatever accommodations are on the IEP must be delivered in all classes - no exceptions. I have had 2 kids in magnets - 1 with an IEP and 1 with a 504. The AP teacher is obligated to comply with the accommodations.

AP classes are considered part of the curriculum - not “more than the curriculum.”

What kind of “support” does your child need in an AP class, OP?

Some might find this controversial but I think if your kid is on a college pathway it is probably reasonable (from a parenting perspective) to start getting them used to a less supportive environment in some of their more challenging academic classes. 504 accommodations are more similar to what will be available at the college level so I didn’t think it was a terrible thing when our kids AP classes weren’t supported.

This is ridiculous. Our kids disabilities don't improve over time and don't go away. The goal is for our kids to learn and access the content. My kids are out of college now but both the huge state school one kid went to and the small private my other kid went to provided the same accommodations.

People here are describing a specific IEP accommodation (eg a second teacher in the classroom). Have you ever seen as a college accommodation a second teacher in the room to keep a child on task, or to redirect them from explosive meltdowns?

Colleges do offer reasonable accommodations but they are not required to offer at the same level as IEPs. To tell people otherwise is misleading.

Some things that are in an IEP will translate over, like extra time for testing. Others, like reduced homework, are very unlikely to be approved as a college accommodation.

I am only suggesting that if you have a kid on a pre-college track it might be good for them to begin to get used to the types of accommodations that they are likely to see in college which may be a step down from HS. Transitioning to college is a big step. Losing supports you are used to at the same time as shifting to college feels like it would make it much harder if the child hadn’t been preparing in advance.

I’m not fighting that colleges offer accommodations. Clearly some accommodations will translate. But not every accommodation will translate and the specific one people are talking about here is an accommodation that is unlikely to be available in college.

No. You should use the accommodations legally available to you so you can learn for as long as they are available. Transition to less than only when forced to. That's like saying since spotters aren't allowed in the Olympics, junior gymnasts should not use them for learning new tricks.

[Anonymous]

Y’all can say what you want about what is supposedly legally allowed or not but no high school that I know (MCPS) has a coteacher in an AP class. I’m sure there are exceptions but in general, AP classes are not supported. And go ahead and try to sue but you will lose. No judge will agree, given current staffing levels, that if there is one or two IEP kids in an AP class, that the school has to provide a co-teacher or even a para. IEP students do take AP classes but they have to be able to handle it with minimal support. They can still get accommodations and executive functioning help from their resource class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Y’all can say what you want about what is supposedly legally allowed or not but no high school that I know (MCPS) has a coteacher in an AP class. I’m sure there are exceptions but in general, AP classes are not supported. And go ahead and try to sue but you will lose. No judge will agree, given current staffing levels, that if there is one or two IEP kids in an AP class, that the school has to provide a co-teacher or even a para. IEP students do take AP classes but they have to be able to handle it with minimal support. They can still get accommodations and executive functioning help from their resource class.

This. AP classes are similar to Dual Enrollment classes which also never have a co-teacher or para