Parents and schools are more lax. It starts at home, the school. |
Yes, that’s the whole point. For the majority of teenagers, both starting and ending their day later better aligns with their circadian rhythms. The idea is to fit their schedule to their optimal sleep patterns instead of fighting biology by trying to fit their sleep into a schedule that prioritizes the convenience of adults. |
You know what helps more, being engaged in things they enjoy. My kids should not be going to bed at 12-1 pm because you refuse to enforce bedtime. Mine should not give up their activities and sports because you refuse to parent. |
The entire state of CA delayed their HS start time to 8.30 am or later and somehow their kids are still able to handle jobs and sports and school work. Think about that for a minute |
They have a different climate and probably stadium lights. They don’t need to worry as much when is colder out. But, we have friends in CA and they did not like it as all it did was shift back everything so kids got home later and went to bed later. Or, sports annd clubs early in morning. Is it really that hard to take electronics and send your kids to bed? |
| And, the other advantage of early start is parents can drive the kids to school if they miss the bus or there is no bus. Many of us cannot do that with an 8:30 start and long commute. |
Correct. |
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Teachers can't make kids and parents care.
If the kids care but the parents don't, social services and exceptional transportation can get the kids to school. If they both don't care, it's a free country, let them fail. |
This has nothing to do with what PP wrote. You could also "parent" your kid unit other biologically hamrful thins like changing their handedness. It's still unhealthy. |
The article is poorly written, but switching tardy students' 1st period to study hall is an easy fix for *tardiness*. |
They don’t need to give up any activity or get less sleep. You just shift everything by a modest amount of time. There are still 24 hours in a day. They’ll get home one hour later, go to bed one hour later, get up in the morning one hour later. It’s no different that when our clocks change by an hour to switch from standard time to daylight savings time and back. If you enforce a bedtime, there should be zero issues. |
Some people want to base the school bell times on what is most beneficial for the largest number of students, not what is convenient for parents. |
Obviously preserving the sanctity of 3 hour game nights on school nights should be top priority for educating our children. |
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Somehow it looks like people are trying to use this issue to push school start times later.
So wanted to copy and paste the 2023-2024 attendance rates for high schools in the surrounding counties from mdreport card. I also looked up the bell times for the first three high schools for each school district. And I think it's safe to assume all of the high schools within a school system have the same bell times. So Montgomery County high schools have a 7:45 start, Frederick 7:30, and Howard 7:50. Some things to note is that Richard Montgomery, 91.4, and Churchill, 93.4, only has a two percent difference in attendance rate. And Howard County did try to implement later start times a year or two ago. But that and combined with outsourcing bus service, resulted in a diaster in bussing services and is likely one the reasons that resulted in the superintendent leaving. Kids were getting picked up and dropped off up to an hour late. And some of it was due to the smaller turnaround times for buses to go from school to school. ie buses usually do their high school routes first, then middle schools, then elementary schools. And also MCPS did do a study on possibly changing bell times a while back, when families would protest in front of Central Office. It was determined it wasn't worth the cost or effort. But the parent groups kept protesting, so MCPS changed the bell times slightly to appease them. But as shown in the numbers below, Frederick County has earlier start times, and schools with higher attendance rates to MCPS. So I don't think the answer is pushing back bell times. Link to the file with attendance rates is here: https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/DataDownloads/datadownload/3/17/6/99/XXXX/2025 By county (sorted by attendance rate descending): LEA Name School Number School Name School Type Attend Rate Pct Bell time Frederick A All Frederick Schools High 93.1 7:30 Howard A All Howard Schools High 92.5 7:50 Montgomery A All Montgomery Schools High 89.7 7:45 By school (sorted by attendance rate descending): LEA Number LEA Name School Number School Name School Type Attend Rate Pct Bell time 13 Howard 0308 Marriotts Ridge High High >= 95.0 7:50 10 Frederick 0713 Urbana High High 94.9 7:30 10 Frederick 0912 Linganore High High 94.5 7:30 10 Frederick 0920 Oakdale High High 94.5 7:30 10 Frederick 0226 Monocacy Valley Montessori High 94.4 13 Howard 0214 Centennial High High 94.3 7:50 13 Howard 0524 River Hill High High 94.2 7:50 15 Montgomery 0427 Walt Whitman High High 94.1 7:45 10 Frederick 0313 Middletown High High 94 13 Howard 0404 Glenelg High High 94 7:50 15 Montgomery 0234 Thomas S. Wootton High High 94 7:45 13 Howard 0203 Howard High High 93.4 7:50 15 Montgomery 0152 Poolesville High High 93.4 7:45 15 Montgomery 0602 Winston Churchill High High 93.4 13 Howard 0509 Atholton High High 93.2 7:50 10 Frederick 2503 Brunswick High High 93 13 Howard 0207 Mount Hebron High High 93 7:50 13 Howard 0527 Reservoir High High 93 7:50 10 Frederick 1509 Catoctin High High 92.7 10 Frederick 2610 Walkersville High High 92.6 13 Howard 0619 Hammond High High 92.3 7:50 10 Frederick 2307 Tuscarora High High 92.2 15 Montgomery 0406 Bethesda-Chevy Chase High High 92 10 Frederick 0213 Gov. Thomas Johnson High High 91.9 13 Howard 0626 Guilford Park High High 91.6 7:50 15 Montgomery 0201 Richard Montgomery High High 91.4 10 Frederick 0209 Frederick High High 91.2 13 Howard 0623 Long Reach High High 91.2 7:50 15 Montgomery 0249 Clarksburg High High 91.1 15 Montgomery 0246 Northwest High High 91 15 Montgomery 0503 Sherwood High High 90.8 15 Montgomery 0424 Walter Johnson High High 90.7 15 Montgomery 0701 Damascus High High 90.5 15 Montgomery 0230 Rockville High High 90.4 15 Montgomery 0315 Paint Branch High High 90.3 13 Howard 0611 Oakland Mills High High 90 7:50 15 Montgomery 0104 Seneca Valley High High 90 15 Montgomery 0125 Quince Orchard High High 89.8 15 Montgomery 0916 Rock Terrace School High 89.4 15 Montgomery 0965 John L Gildner Regional Inst for Children & Adol High 89.1 13 Howard 0516 Wilde Lake High High 89 7:50 15 Montgomery 0757 Montgomery Blair High High 88.7 15 Montgomery 0798 Springbrook High High 88.7 15 Montgomery 0782 Wheaton High High 88.5 15 Montgomery 0321 James Hubert Blake High High 88.3 15 Montgomery 0510 Col. Zadok Magruder High High 88.2 15 Montgomery 0789 Albert Einstein High High 87.6 13 Howard 0522 Cedar Lane Special Center High 87.3 15 Montgomery 0951 Longview School High 86.5 10 Frederick 2613 Rock Creek High 86 15 Montgomery 0796 Northwood High High 86 15 Montgomery 0815 John F. Kennedy High High 85.9 15 Montgomery 0545 Watkins Mill High High 85.1 15 Montgomery 0799 Stephen Knolls School High 84.8 15 Montgomery 0551 Gaithersburg High High 83.8 10 Frederick 0208 Heather Ridge High 75.6 13 Howard 0080 Homewood School High 69.8 |
| Forgot, that Howard County has always outsourced bus service. That year Howard County outsourced to a specific nonlocal company that was supposed to be cutting edge, very technology focused. That offered things like an app to show real time bus locations. |