H1B application fees now cost $100k

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh silly Donny-boy. Companies are not going to hire Americans do these jobs. They will just send the jobs overseas/hire remote workers. It's going to be worse for the economy because that's hundreds of thousands of people who won't be spending money in the U.S., they'll be spending their money in India and China. It's a really, really dumb thing to do without any thought.

They spend money in the U.S. to:

-Fill spots in top colleges
-Buy homes in the places that we made appealing and have good schools, and then make them ethnic enclaves
-Make everywhere in public, from national parks to grocery stores, more crowded

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh silly Donny-boy. Companies are not going to hire Americans do these jobs. They will just send the jobs overseas/hire remote workers. It's going to be worse for the economy because that's hundreds of thousands of people who won't be spending money in the U.S., they'll be spending their money in India and China. It's a really, really dumb thing to do without any thought.

They spend money in the U.S. to:

-Fill spots in top colleges
-Buy homes in the places that we made appealing and have good schools, and then make them ethnic enclaves
-Make everywhere in public, from national parks to grocery stores, more crowded

We do Irish enclaves, Salvadorian enclaves, Puerto Rican enclaves etc. what's the big deal? I don't understand your point. If you want to increase your numbers, tell your Caucasian wives to have more kids.

[Anonymous]

To be fair, companies need less workers today. A lot of people forget this key fact. And further these same workers don't need those H1B visa holders
to be physically present here. These same people can do the work remotely.

If you remove every single H1B workers, companies will simply further accelerate automation and outsource more work.

American students are sadly not going to benefit. The jobs that will be vacated will simply be automated and/or outsourced.

Capitalism does not care about nationalism or patriotism. Capitalism worships $$.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh silly Donny-boy. Companies are not going to hire Americans do these jobs. They will just send the jobs overseas/hire remote workers. It's going to be worse for the economy because that's hundreds of thousands of people who won't be spending money in the U.S., they'll be spending their money in India and China. It's a really, really dumb thing to do without any thought.

They spend money in the U.S. to:

-Fill spots in top colleges
-Buy homes in the places that we made appealing and have good schools, and then make them ethnic enclaves
-Make everywhere in public, from national parks to grocery stores, more crowded

We do Irish enclaves, Salvadorian enclaves, Puerto Rican enclaves etc. what's the big deal? I don't understand your point. If you want to increase your numbers, tell your Caucasian wives to have more kids.

I think the point about enclaves is clear. You like your doesn't mean we have to like it's existence.

Who said anything about increasing numbers?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ashburn real estate is getting ready to tank. Does this impact current H1B visa holders?

Yes, once they leave, they will put travel bans on employees. But, this is good news for our country.

Most of these families have children who are Americans. What do you propose we do about them? Are you going to deport the Indians and leave their children in internment camps?

Anchor babyism doesn't work. It was never a real thing.

Worked well for the Trump family though. At least 5 immigrants in 3 generations have used our tax dollars for their considerable profit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ashburn real estate is getting ready to tank. Does this impact current H1B visa holders?

Yes, once they leave, they will put travel bans on employees. But, this is good news for our country.

Most of these families have children who are Americans. What do you propose we do about them? Are you going to deport the Indians and leave their children in internment camps?

Anchor babyism doesn't work. It was never a real thing.

Worked well for the Trump family though. At least 5 immigrants in 3 generations have used our tax dollars for their considerable profit.

Thr "Anchor baby" fallacy is thinking that just because you gave birth or fathered a kid while on U.S. soil, that means the U.S. has to do all that it takes to allow you to stay in the U.S. permanently. Doesn't apply to the Trumps (who I despise).

[Anonymous]

This is more of the usual BS. Once the tech industry ponies up the bribes this all goes away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ashburn real estate is getting ready to tank. Does this impact current H1B visa holders?

Yes, once they leave, they will put travel bans on employees. But, this is good news for our country.

Most of these families have children who are Americans. What do you propose we do about them? Are you going to deport the Indians and leave their children in internment camps?

Dramatic? Their kids can live perfectly well in the countries of their parents, and they can move to the U.S. when they are adults.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To be fair, companies need less workers today. A lot of people forget this key fact. And further these same workers don't need those H1B visa holders
to be physically present here. These same people can do the work remotely.

If you remove every single H1B workers, companies will simply further accelerate automation and outsource more work.

American students are sadly not going to benefit. The jobs that will be vacated will simply be automated and/or outsourced.

Capitalism does not care about nationalism or patriotism. Capitalism worships $$.

The problem I have with the remote work argument is that it is always cheaper to hire someone in India or the Philippines or wherever.

If they thought the H1B people could do the job just as well overseas they never would have sponsored them from the start.

I mean what’s the current logic behind paying the current H1 fees today and then paying these folks say $100k when you would pay them like $30k back in India? Thats the current discount.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To be fair, companies need less workers today. A lot of people forget this key fact. And further these same workers don't need those H1B visa holders
to be physically present here. These same people can do the work remotely.

If you remove every single H1B workers, companies will simply further accelerate automation and outsource more work.

American students are sadly not going to benefit. The jobs that will be vacated will simply be automated and/or outsourced.

Capitalism does not care about nationalism or patriotism. Capitalism worships $$.

The problem I have with the remote work argument is that it is always cheaper to hire someone in India or the Philippines or wherever.

If they thought the H1B people could do the job just as well overseas they never would have sponsored them from the start.

I mean what’s the current logic behind paying the current H1 fees today and then paying these folks say $100k when you would pay them like $30k back in India? Thats the current discount.

The point was to have obedient labor force whom you can whip into shape of your liking.

[Anonymous]

As is often the case, Trump is trying to hammer in a nail with a machete. The H1 system needs reform; this plan is idiotic.

God I wish we had an actually competent president. And lest you think I'm taking the name of the Lord in vain, rest assured -- I'm actually praying. Nothing else seems to work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As is often the case, Trump is trying to hammer in a nail with a machete. The H1 system needs reform; this plan is idiotic.

God I wish we had an actually competent president. And lest you think I'm taking the name of the Lord in vain, rest assured -- I'm actually praying. Nothing else seems to work.

There have been multiple presidents prior to Trump who could have reformed it and did nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As is often the case, Trump is trying to hammer in a nail with a machete. The H1 system needs reform; this plan is idiotic.

God I wish we had an actually competent president. And lest you think I'm taking the name of the Lord in vain, rest assured -- I'm actually praying. Nothing else seems to work.

There have been multiple presidents prior to Trump who could have reformed it and did nothing.

This one does not care about political donations, as he extorts big tech through other means.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rare W from Trump.

Only if he doesn't TACO. If he stands tall and don't back down to the lure of billionaire CEO's, it will indeed be a W for him. Time will tell.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s terrible. If you were born American, with all the privileges that comes with that lottery win, and you STILL can’t compete with people who grew up in war zones, or with food/water/medicine shortages, and who aced their SATs/MCATs/GREs in a SECOND, non-native language, what does that say about you?!
We shouldn’t artificially be propping up mediocrity, while brilliant foreigners go to the rest of the developed world and bring their skills and intellect elsewhere.

To be fair, the private schools in India are much better than even US private schools. No teaching to the lowest common denominator equity BS, and the familirs are invested because they view it as their ticket out of poverty.

How are the poor in India paying for private school education?