Did Noah really live

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Anonymous wrote:The Noah myth has been debunked by science. Sure there were floods and flood myths like Virginia births were popular but there is no evidence of people or animals disappearing or the land changing. The book wasn't even written down till 2500 years ago. Its a fable that gives a reason why floods happen and stokes fear in believing and acting well to make sure society stays in check. Its a reminder to help your neighbor as well as yourself lest God think your culture is not worth saving on earth.

Science has done no such thing other than rationalize to explain away the evidence clearly in front of their faces. These same dunderheads use the same technique to insist humans evolved from a single-celled ancestor. Whatevah.

No evidence for animals disappearing? Have you looked at the fossil layers (which were laid down by Noah’s flood)? There they are! Boomp! d’ere it is!

The flood mentioned in Gilgamesh may have been written before Moses but is not as accurate according to the facts. The book of Genesis records the true account. Ken Ham of AIG has more facts.

All over the world there are fossils on all the mountain tops, including Everest. To say this was all caused by separate floods then the mountains rose is a stretch but that is what you have to do to explain away the evidence.

The thickest glaciers are as deep as mountains tall. There are fish frozen giving birth. The global cooling from the Earth covered in water as well as other factors caused this flash freezing.

The book of Genesis, as is the entire Bible, speaks true. Only those who reject Jesus will reject Genesis which Jesus quoted from such as Jonah and concerning marriage: it is only valid if it is between a man and a woman.

Do you have any background in geology? This is an actual field of study? Peer reviewed reports that actually describe this? Should be headline news. I have no idea what the mountain idea proves. Entire continents moved because of plate tectonics. You don't seem to believe in the timeline of the earth much less other scientific facts. There is rock from the African plate here in the DC area. Things on the earth can move.

Thou coveredst it [the earth] with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains. They [the waters] go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which thou hast founded for them. (Psalms 104:6)

The geologists at answersingenesis have many articles on this topic.

There are many people who think they are scientists, and some may even have a degree, parroting peer-reviewed poppycock: “Yup, professor Doodah says it is true so it must be! Bible not true. Case closed.”

What geologists claim is not based on evidence but assumption: there was no global flood, the Bible cannot possibly be true, so we will explain through a timeline of millions of years there was no global flood. Anyone who disagrees, we will declare they do not understand science and are uneducated.

All over the world we see creatures catastrophically and quickly buried in sediment becoming fossils. On the tallest mountains are sea creature fossils. Flying over the Appalachian mountains it is plain to see water shaped them.

Noah’s flood dramatically altered the face of the planet, not over millions of years but over the course of a few centuries.

What it comes down to is authority: either the Bible concerning historical events such as the origin of the species and global flood, or the science (so called) of men who think they know what happened.

We have seem many times the false knowledge of scientists: Piltdown man, phrenology, leechcraft, Haeckel’s gill slits and so many more.

And for the record, I took geology, biology, and anthropology as electives at a university. I was skeptical of their claims then and am certain now that their claims about human evolution and geology —no global flood! are unproven assertions which contradict the Bible, thus those claims are false.

The Bible cuts through the Gordian knot these scientists and anti-Christian blowhards have crafted for themselves to reject God who created all things.

Even if you took one course each at the college level in geology, biology, and anthropology, you either failed the classes or you went to Liberty University. Also, one class in each field does not make you knowledgeable or an expert.

Your answersingenesis is nothing more than pseudoscience trying to masquerade as a genuine effort to reconcile facts and evidence with your pre-conceived, literal interpretation of creation according to the Bible. Pseudoscience is not science, and their claims are not supported by the evidence.

You fail badly every time you try to post this BS.

I did not fail the classes, I gave the “correct” answer to pass the exams, received my diploma and moved on. I did not go to Liberty U (I am not from VA) but a secular university. There was a definite anti-Christian bias there.

I have taught my children to do the same when they attend university in a few years: do not argue with ignorant professors concerning human evolution and silly, unfounded claims that science has debunked the Bible. It has done no such thing. Study hard, give the “correct” answer (wink-wink, nod-nod); get the degree and move on.

When they were 5 years old and in elementary school, I would take them on nature walks, showing them God’s creation.

“See that little spider, brain smaller than a grain of sand? Who taught it to spin a web? How does it know it can catch food that way?”

I explained to them God created the spider with the physical means to spin a web and programmed the instructions into its brain.

I would point to a bird’s nest: “Who taught the bird to build a nest and sit on the eggs until they hatched?”

“God did!” my children would reply. I was so proud of them.

At night, I would read the Bible to them before bed time, teaching them God’s word, preparing their minds so that when they encounter butthead, butthole professors wise in their own eyes, they will know how to handle these ignorant people.

There are many millions of us born again, fundamentalist, Bible-believing Christians. We are not going away. We shall continue to preach the truth even when willfully ignorant people attempt to pass falsehoods masquerading as science.

For believers, exhibit A on why religion is indoctrination.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh FFS. Not even Biblical scholars think that story is literal or "real."

I knew evangelicals that believed every word....

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Anonymous wrote:First, they used different ways of measuring time. The calendars or measurements of years likely featured shorter “years”.
In other flood stories around the world, the “Noah” figure is often portrayed as immortal or living a very long life:
Utnapishtim in the Epic of Gilgamesh (he reigned for 126 years!), Deucalion and Pyrrha in Greece, Manu in Hindu tradition, the goddess Nuwa in China, and various indigenous traditions in the Americas.

Surely you're not suggesting that the flood story in the Bible is just another myth copied from other myths?????

LOL after studying the history of christianity and the Bible, it is amazing that this one myth has stuck around this long, but such is the power of indoctrination into a system of belief that provides what so many people WANT to believe, I guess?

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In the Qur'an is the following verse (29:14) translated in English:

And We certainly sent Noah to his people, and he remained among them a thousand years minus fifty years, and the flood seized them while they were wrongdoers.


Interestingly, there are two different Arabic words used in the verse that are both translated to "years".

Some scholars believed Noah actually lived longer than 950 years, with the 950 years being before the flood and then he lived for some time after the flood.

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Anonymous wrote:In the Qur'an is the following verse (29:14) translated in English:

And We certainly sent Noah to his people, and he remained among them a thousand years minus fifty years, and the flood seized them while they were wrongdoers.


Interestingly, there are two different Arabic words used in the verse that are both translated to "years".

Some scholars believed Noah actually lived longer than 950 years, with the 950 years being before the flood and then he lived for some time after the flood.

But the Quran was written after the Hebrew Bible, so the fact that it has the same general story for Noah doesn’t mean it’s literally true.

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Anonymous wrote:In the Qur'an is the following verse (29:14) translated in English:

And We certainly sent Noah to his people, and he remained among them a thousand years minus fifty years, and the flood seized them while they were wrongdoers.


Interestingly, there are two different Arabic words used in the verse that are both translated to "years".

Some scholars believed Noah actually lived longer than 950 years, with the 950 years being before the flood and then he lived for some time after the flood.

But the Quran was written after the Hebrew Bible, so the fact that it has the same general story for Noah doesn’t mean it’s literally true.

And the Bible was written after the Indian Vedas. Entirely possible it happened but didn't happen to the people who wrote the Bible.

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Anonymous wrote:In the Qur'an is the following verse (29:14) translated in English:

And We certainly sent Noah to his people, and he remained among them a thousand years minus fifty years, and the flood seized them while they were wrongdoers.


Interestingly, there are two different Arabic words used in the verse that are both translated to "years".

Some scholars believed Noah actually lived longer than 950 years, with the 950 years being before the flood and then he lived for some time after the flood.

But the Quran was written after the Hebrew Bible, so the fact that it has the same general story for Noah doesn’t mean it’s literally true.

And the Bible was written after the Indian Vedas. Entirely possible it happened but didn't happen to the people who wrote the Bible.

Floods happened (and still happen) all over the world, it's no surprise there are major flood stories in many cultures. I don't think it's likely that they're all reflecting the same event, except the ones that were directly influenced by other texts (we know the Torah probably borrowed from Gilgamesh, and we know the Quran recounted some of the Torah).

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Anonymous wrote:In the Qur'an is the following verse (29:14) translated in English:

And We certainly sent Noah to his people, and he remained among them a thousand years minus fifty years, and the flood seized them while they were wrongdoers.


Interestingly, there are two different Arabic words used in the verse that are both translated to "years".

Some scholars believed Noah actually lived longer than 950 years, with the 950 years being before the flood and then he lived for some time after the flood.

But the Quran was written after the Hebrew Bible, so the fact that it has the same general story for Noah doesn’t mean it’s literally true.

And the Bible was written after the Indian Vedas. Entirely possible it happened but didn't happen to the people who wrote the Bible.

Fail. No, it is not "entirely possible it happened".

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Anonymous wrote:In the Qur'an is the following verse (29:14) translated in English:

And We certainly sent Noah to his people, and he remained among them a thousand years minus fifty years, and the flood seized them while they were wrongdoers.


Interestingly, there are two different Arabic words used in the verse that are both translated to "years".

Some scholars believed Noah actually lived longer than 950 years, with the 950 years being before the flood and then he lived for some time after the flood.

But the Quran was written after the Hebrew Bible, so the fact that it has the same general story for Noah doesn’t mean it’s literally true.

And the Bible was written after the Indian Vedas. Entirely possible it happened but didn't happen to the people who wrote the Bible.

Fail. No, it is not "entirely possible it happened".

DP. Fail. I'm the poster with the friend who participated in a scientific expedition in the Black Sea. They found absolute evidence that a flood happened that would have affected the Bosphorus. It didn't affect the Mediterranean and isn't the Gilgamesh flood, and who can say about animals going in two-by-two. But a flood absolutely happened in the region and people living in Anatolia and other parts of the region would have known it. For them, this was "the world," so to them, the world was flooded.

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Anonymous wrote:In the Qur'an is the following verse (29:14) translated in English:

And We certainly sent Noah to his people, and he remained among them a thousand years minus fifty years, and the flood seized them while they were wrongdoers.


Interestingly, there are two different Arabic words used in the verse that are both translated to "years".

Some scholars believed Noah actually lived longer than 950 years, with the 950 years being before the flood and then he lived for some time after the flood.

But the Quran was written after the Hebrew Bible, so the fact that it has the same general story for Noah doesn’t mean it’s literally true.

And the Bible was written after the Indian Vedas. Entirely possible it happened but didn't happen to the people who wrote the Bible.

Fail. No, it is not "entirely possible it happened".

Are you the one claiming Jesus never existed in the Entertainment forum? Bart Ehrman would like a word with you.

Read the post about the Black Sea flood and get over yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:In the Qur'an is the following verse (29:14) translated in English:

And We certainly sent Noah to his people, and he remained among them a thousand years minus fifty years, and the flood seized them while they were wrongdoers.


Interestingly, there are two different Arabic words used in the verse that are both translated to "years".

Some scholars believed Noah actually lived longer than 950 years, with the 950 years being before the flood and then he lived for some time after the flood.

But the Quran was written after the Hebrew Bible, so the fact that it has the same general story for Noah doesn’t mean it’s literally true.

And the Bible was written after the Indian Vedas. Entirely possible it happened but didn't happen to the people who wrote the Bible.

Fail. No, it is not "entirely possible it happened".

DP. Fail. I'm the poster with the friend who participated in a scientific expedition in the Black Sea. They found absolute evidence that a flood happened that would have affected the Bosphorus. It didn't affect the Mediterranean and isn't the Gilgamesh flood, and who can say about animals going in two-by-two. But a flood absolutely happened in the region and people living in Anatolia and other parts of the region would have known it. For them, this was "the world," so to them, the world was flooded.

Evidence for a local flood event is not evidence for a biblical flood.

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Anonymous wrote:In the Qur'an is the following verse (29:14) translated in English:

And We certainly sent Noah to his people, and he remained among them a thousand years minus fifty years, and the flood seized them while they were wrongdoers.


Interestingly, there are two different Arabic words used in the verse that are both translated to "years".

Some scholars believed Noah actually lived longer than 950 years, with the 950 years being before the flood and then he lived for some time after the flood.

But the Quran was written after the Hebrew Bible, so the fact that it has the same general story for Noah doesn’t mean it’s literally true.

And the Bible was written after the Indian Vedas. Entirely possible it happened but didn't happen to the people who wrote the Bible.

Fail. No, it is not "entirely possible it happened".

Are you the one claiming Jesus never existed in the Entertainment forum? Bart Ehrman would like a word with you.

Read the post about the Black Sea flood and get over yourself.

Are you the person obsessed with Bart Ehrman? If so, seek out therapy. It's disturbing.

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The most confusing part for me is how Noah's family was able to repopulate the planet by themselves. I think everyone else was drowned per Bible.

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Anonymous wrote:The most confusing part for me is how Noah's family was able to repopulate the planet by themselves. I think everyone else was drowned per Bible.

INCEST - if you believe the Bible. It never mentions incest, but we know that they had to do it to repopulate the planet.

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Anonymous wrote:In the Qur'an is the following verse (29:14) translated in English:

And We certainly sent Noah to his people, and he remained among them a thousand years minus fifty years, and the flood seized them while they were wrongdoers.


Interestingly, there are two different Arabic words used in the verse that are both translated to "years".

Some scholars believed Noah actually lived longer than 950 years, with the 950 years being before the flood and then he lived for some time after the flood.

But the Quran was written after the Hebrew Bible, so the fact that it has the same general story for Noah doesn’t mean it’s literally true.

And the Bible was written after the Indian Vedas. Entirely possible it happened but didn't happen to the people who wrote the Bible.

Fail. No, it is not "entirely possible it happened".

DP. Fail. I'm the poster with the friend who participated in a scientific expedition in the Black Sea. They found absolute evidence that a flood happened that would have affected the Bosphorus. It didn't affect the Mediterranean and isn't the Gilgamesh flood, and who can say about animals going in two-by-two. But a flood absolutely happened in the region and people living in Anatolia and other parts of the region would have known it. For them, this was "the world," so to them, the world was flooded.

Evidence for a local flood event is not evidence for a biblical flood.

Huh? The Bible talks about a flood. Therefore, the flood in the bible is evidence of a "biblical" flood.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: DCUM needs to upgrade its atheists.