Did Noah really live

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to Catholic school for k-12, and we were taught that a "year" was calculated differently by the people who wrote about Noah's age. "Year" did not mean the same thing then as it does today, to us.

That being said, I'm an agnostic who is 99% sure there is no God, but I still believe that yes, these myths have a basis in truth, in some way, especially because the flood story appears in many cultures. There was some person, at some time, who for whatever reasons drew enough attention to be spun into mythological status by those who repeated the tale over and over through generations.

And I say, so what "that these myths have a basis in truth"? There is still no God. When these myths were first started, we did't know anything about science. Now we do and still there are people who believe in these crazy myths. Why? because they are afraid to die.

Not many people believe myths to be solidly true history -- even our history as recorded isn't solidly true. But in any case, some people use stores to guide them in their lives. That's OK.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is this even a thread?

Right -- who cares if he lived or not?

The same people who care whether Jesus lived or not.

Not a perfect subset.

[Anonymous]

There was a big flood in Houston in 2017. And of course don't forget Katrina in New Orleans, I forget the year. Maybe in 5000 years people will be reading about these Great Floods in a bible-type book.

[Anonymous]

Plus there were giants back then who married the daughters of men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to Catholic school for k-12, and we were taught that a "year" was calculated differently by the people who wrote about Noah's age. "Year" did not mean the same thing then as it does today, to us.

That being said, I'm an agnostic who is 99% sure there is no God, but I still believe that yes, these myths have a basis in truth, in some way, especially because the flood story appears in many cultures. There was some person, at some time, who for whatever reasons drew enough attention to be spun into mythological status by those who repeated the tale over and over through generations.

And I say, so what "that these myths have a basis in truth"? There is still no God. When these myths were first started, we did't know anything about science. Now we do and still there are people who believe in these crazy myths. Why? because they are afraid to die.

Not many people believe myths to be solidly true history -- even our history as recorded isn't solidly true. But in any case, some people use stores to guide them in their lives. That's OK.

No, It's not OK

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is this even a thread?

Right -- who cares if he lived or not?

The same people who care whether Jesus lived or not.

There’s a ton of atheists who care if Jesus lived or not.

In fact, those same atheists are spending days and days debating if Christ was a real man.

They ignore the 99%+ specialists of antiquity in the fields of academia and scholarship to embrace a discredited mythic theory about Christ.

Why do those posters care if Christ was a real man?

Virtually all critical scholars (e.g., Bart Ehrman, E.P. Sanders, Paula Fredriksen, Geza Vermes, John Dominic Crossan—even many mythicists like Robert M. Price acknowledge they’re in a tiny minority) agree:
-Jesus was a real 1st-century Jewish apocalyptic preacher from Galilee.
-He was baptized by John the Baptist.
-He was crucified under Pontius Pilate ~30–33 CE.
The “Christ Myth” theory (Jesus never existed) is rejected by the mainstream academy as fringe, comparable to Holocaust denial in its dismissal of primary sources.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is this even a thread?

Right -- who cares if he lived or not?

The same people who care whether Jesus lived or not.

There’s a ton of atheists who care if Jesus lived or not.

In fact, those same atheists are spending days and days debating if Christ was a real man.

They ignore the 99%+ specialists of antiquity in the fields of academia and scholarship to embrace a discredited mythic theory about Christ.

Why do those posters care if Christ was a real man?

Virtually all critical scholars (e.g., Bart Ehrman, E.P. Sanders, Paula Fredriksen, Geza Vermes, John Dominic Crossan—even many mythicists like Robert M. Price acknowledge they’re in a tiny minority) agree:
-Jesus was a real 1st-century Jewish apocalyptic preacher from Galilee.
-He was baptized by John the Baptist.
-He was crucified under Pontius Pilate ~30–33 CE.
The “Christ Myth” theory (Jesus never existed) is rejected by the mainstream academy as fringe, comparable to Holocaust denial in its dismissal of primary sources.

So dishonest. We actually do have primary sources for the Holocaust.

Constantly referencing the Holocaust (inaccurately) is quite insensitive.

[Anonymous]

^ Then insert moon landing deniers and flat earth proponents.

If you feel it’s disrespectful, it is. People who deny the Holocaust are lowest of the low, rejecting an event that absolutely occurred. It’s irrational and honestly probably a mental and/or personality disorder.

People who deny reality have issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to Catholic school for k-12, and we were taught that a "year" was calculated differently by the people who wrote about Noah's age. "Year" did not mean the same thing then as it does today, to us.

That being said, I'm an agnostic who is 99% sure there is no God, but I still believe that yes, these myths have a basis in truth, in some way, especially because the flood story appears in many cultures. There was some person, at some time, who for whatever reasons drew enough attention to be spun into mythological status by those who repeated the tale over and over through generations.

And I say, so what "that these myths have a basis in truth"? There is still no God. When these myths were first started, we did't know anything about science. Now we do and still there are people who believe in these crazy myths. Why? because they are afraid to die.

Not many people believe myths to be solidly true history -- even our history as recorded isn't solidly true. But in any case, some people use stores to guide them in their lives. That's OK.

It's OK to use stories to guide your life. It's not ok to actually believe the myths are accurate history.