What careers making 100,000 + as a new grad would you recommond for my daughter

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is not interested in nursing or healthcare which is a stable descent paying career to have a middle class life .


She wants to be a software engineer or a data scientist but is tech oversaturated now ? Also I have family members working in tech who have been laid off , and it took them months to find a job . Also outside of FAANG tech isn't as lucrative .


We have seven family members in tech, immediate or in-laws, age 33 to 54, from microsoft down to less known niche companies. They all graduated from known engineering or CS programs(CMU, GT, Penn (Seas), Princeton, Hopkins) for undergrad,MS/phD or both. All have masters or phD. Two founded companies and sold them to bigger companies. Two were in academia for part of their career. They all have done very well and are in positions that are not replaceable by AI because they are in thinking and designing roles. Most of them Even their starting jobs were not "entry level": most started companies or came out of top grad programs. Tech roles at the entry level for mid-range bachelors degrees are the ones being laid off now: they have skills that are replaceable. They were in demand 3-4 years ago but their skills are basic, they are not thinkers and problem-solvers and they do not adapt to changes.
We have discussed engineering and tech in detail with the ones who taught for a significant part of their career and those who have been involved in hiring in industry. Most of them worked through the rough dot-com bust in the early 2000s, when many were laid off but the smartest and most adaptable rallied into great tech careers. Their advice is pick the most challenging school where you will be pushed by peers and where the professors are known entities in the field thus have contacts at other top schools. They gave us a list of the basic target schools in tech that get you a small leg up in getting a second look. Take the hard classes, do not settle for the minimum, and network with grad students and professors. All tech jobs are not created equal: the lucrative and personally rewarding ones tend to be startups or R&D. They also happen to be the lease likely to be replaced by AI.
Anonymous
OF? Heard that can be quite lucrative.
Anonymous
Why should your dd make $100k? Entitled much!
Anonymous
Realistically, what are her strengths? What types of colleges is she going to get into?
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Anonymous wrote:The fact that so many undergrads have an expectation to make $100K is much more concerning than what field a particular student should pursue. Truly highlights how out of touch people are.


They are not out of touch - look at what rent costs. They are all worried about how they are going to afford to live. They are wondering if they will ever be able to buy a house. These young people are not just entitled jerks. When I graduated from college in the mid 2000s, I was able to rent a room in a shared house on the hill and my share of the rent was $850. The whole 3bd/2ba house was $2,500/mo. Houses in that block are now renting for $6,000/mo. They are looking at the cost of living and realizing that they need to start out making $100k if they have any hope of building a decent middle class life in this region.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The fact that so many undergrads have an expectation to make $100K is much more concerning than what field a particular student should pursue. Truly highlights how out of touch people are.


They are not out of touch - look at what rent costs. They are all worried about how they are going to afford to live. They are wondering if they will ever be able to buy a house. These young people are not just entitled jerks. When I graduated from college in the mid 2000s, I was able to rent a room in a shared house on the hill and my share of the rent was $850. The whole 3bd/2ba house was $2,500/mo. Houses in that block are now renting for $6,000/mo. They are looking at the cost of living and realizing that they need to start out making $100k if they have any hope of building a decent middle class life in this region.

My kid lives in a 4br/4ba off campus apt, mostly college students, but not limited to just college students. They pay $1100 per month, with a gym, a pool, volleyball courts, etc.

Young people can live fine making under $100K, especially those just out of college.

Sure, if you live in a hcol like NYC or the Bay Area, you'll need six figures, but that's the choice you make to live in such a hcol. And I used to live in the Bay Area.
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Anonymous
They are looking at the cost of living and realizing that they need to start out making $100k if they have any hope of building a decent middle class life in this region.


....so pick another region. There's a whole country out there.
Anonymous
OP needs to rethink this question first their kid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The fact that so many undergrads have an expectation to make $100K is much more concerning than what field a particular student should pursue. Truly highlights how out of touch people are.


They are not out of touch - look at what rent costs. They are all worried about how they are going to afford to live. They are wondering if they will ever be able to buy a house. These young people are not just entitled jerks. When I graduated from college in the mid 2000s, I was able to rent a room in a shared house on the hill and my share of the rent was $850. The whole 3bd/2ba house was $2,500/mo. Houses in that block are now renting for $6,000/mo. They are looking at the cost of living and realizing that they need to start out making $100k if they have any hope of building a decent middle class life in this region.


Each of my kids rents within walking distance of different ivies in northeast. There are multiple options or rooms in a house or apartments on different sides of the campuses that are safe, clean and close by for $900-1500 per person, per month. One can spend more but one does not need to.
My first rental after college in the early 2000s in an east coast area near a non-ivy college was $850 for 2BR apt(425 pp) on a $28k Medical Resident's annual salary. Now medical residents make 75-80k. My old block is single family homes but newer rentals a few blocks over and still quite safe are $1900 for 2BR apt ($950 per person). In other words it is actually a better salary to rent ratio than it used to be comparing the same east coast city.
Coworker's kid lives in NYC, shares an apartment with other young single friends, and is off the parent's payroll making around 60k in an arts-related job, 4 years our of college. They cook a lot, freeze extras, and walk almost everywhere.
For the vast majority of cities, 100k is a ton of money to live on as a new graduate. If they cannot live on that as a single person and save at least 12k per year they are really bad at budgeting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
They are looking at the cost of living and realizing that they need to start out making $100k if they have any hope of building a decent middle class life in this region.


....so pick another region. There's a whole country out there.


+1
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Anonymous wrote:100k right out of undergrad is really pushing it, and not as common as you think. Don’t believe social media. Also it sometimes comes with some sacrifices to happiness that can’t be measured easily: frequent business travel that is not glamorous, long hours, intense pressure, and no time for self care.

I say this as a similar parent: let her figure it out herself.


Seriously. I know she doesn't want nursing but you'll never make $100k out of school as a nurse either. More like $70k.


No way. As a single new grad she would be a travel nurse and make over 100k easily. Especially if she works overtime and takes hard to fill jobs (Alaska comes to mind..). Just saying. It’s a great way to build a nest egg before you get married, have kids, need good insurance
Anonymous
If she is attractive and articulate she could make that as a pharmaceutical or surgical instrument sales rep. Requires a lot of travel.
Anonymous
Chemical engineering. Really.
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