APS: Apple Watches and Cell Phone Pouches

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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.


Schedule changes. What did we do before phones? They will turn their phone the instant they step out of school and get your message don’t worry.


What if I need to pick my kid up early? You really think the office is going to give them that message?


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Well that's nice for you, but my kid's school would not do that.


So you show up for picking up your child early at the front office, and they ignore you and won’t page them?

Our elementary school has a Google form, I imagine high schools could do something similar, maybe ask your PTA.

How often is this a problem? Why are you jump scaring your kids with early pickups more than a couple times a year? What comes up that you can’t discuss in the morning?


Aah, I see your kid is in elementary. Get back to me when they are in high school and aren't just in one place with a teacher all day. Then you'll see how high schools work. But thanks for telling me how this will go when you in fact have no idea. Have a seat.


Instead of addressing my concerns, you're resorting to insults. I was telling you what options exist from my youngest child’s experience.

I have two kids in high school as well, but I don't experience the "sudden" early releases. In fact, I rarely hear from them because they are generally responsible for their own transportation. They can take the school bus and ART for most activities, or just arrange their own carpool, so I'm not heavily involved except when it’s my turn to drive and that’s known well in advance.

It sounds like your kids may not be as independent as they should be at this stage in high school.


If your kid is actually in high school go ask them how they pull up the ART bus schedule without using their phone.


I’m very curious about the age of these mobile phone dependent parents. You have HS students, aren’t you GenX and know how to navigate the world without constant internet connections, like reading a map, paper schedule, and tracking down a phone when needed?
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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.


Schedule changes. What did we do before phones? They will turn their phone the instant they step out of school and get your message don’t worry.


What if I need to pick my kid up early? You really think the office is going to give them that message?


Yes


Well that's nice for you, but my kid's school would not do that.


So you show up for picking up your child early at the front office, and they ignore you and won’t page them?

Our elementary school has a Google form, I imagine high schools could do something similar, maybe ask your PTA.

How often is this a problem? Why are you jump scaring your kids with early pickups more than a couple times a year? What comes up that you can’t discuss in the morning?


Aah, I see your kid is in elementary. Get back to me when they are in high school and aren't just in one place with a teacher all day. Then you'll see how high schools work. But thanks for telling me how this will go when you in fact have no idea. Have a seat.


Instead of addressing my concerns, you're resorting to insults. I was telling you what options exist from my youngest child’s experience.

I have two kids in high school as well, but I don't experience the "sudden" early releases. In fact, I rarely hear from them because they are generally responsible for their own transportation. They can take the school bus and ART for most activities, or just arrange their own carpool, so I'm not heavily involved except when it’s my turn to drive and that’s known well in advance.

It sounds like your kids may not be as independent as they should be at this stage in high school.


If your kid is actually in high school go ask them how they pull up the ART bus schedule without using their phone.


They use their aps provided laptop which they have free access to.

Coaches all communicate practice cancellations via team app that all players are part of. They get an email when team app cancels a practice. They access the email on their APS laptop.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.


Schedule changes. What did we do before phones? They will turn their phone the instant they step out of school and get your message don’t worry.


What if I need to pick my kid up early? You really think the office is going to give them that message?


Yes


Well that's nice for you, but my kid's school would not do that.


So you show up for picking up your child early at the front office, and they ignore you and won’t page them?

Our elementary school has a Google form, I imagine high schools could do something similar, maybe ask your PTA.

How often is this a problem? Why are you jump scaring your kids with early pickups more than a couple times a year? What comes up that you can’t discuss in the morning?


Aah, I see your kid is in elementary. Get back to me when they are in high school and aren't just in one place with a teacher all day. Then you'll see how high schools work. But thanks for telling me how this will go when you in fact have no idea. Have a seat.


Instead of addressing my concerns, you're resorting to insults. I was telling you what options exist from my youngest child’s experience.

I have two kids in high school as well, but I don't experience the "sudden" early releases. In fact, I rarely hear from them because they are generally responsible for their own transportation. They can take the school bus and ART for most activities, or just arrange their own carpool, so I'm not heavily involved except when it’s my turn to drive and that’s known well in advance.

It sounds like your kids may not be as independent as they should be at this stage in high school.


If your kid is actually in high school go ask them how they pull up the ART bus schedule without using their phone.

Are they taking the bus during school? That doesn't sound right. Phones are available after school.


high school students come and go, especially older ones.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.


Schedule changes. What did we do before phones? They will turn their phone the instant they step out of school and get your message don’t worry.


What if I need to pick my kid up early? You really think the office is going to give them that message?


Yes


Well that's nice for you, but my kid's school would not do that.


So you show up for picking up your child early at the front office, and they ignore you and won’t page them?

Our elementary school has a Google form, I imagine high schools could do something similar, maybe ask your PTA.

How often is this a problem? Why are you jump scaring your kids with early pickups more than a couple times a year? What comes up that you can’t discuss in the morning?


Aah, I see your kid is in elementary. Get back to me when they are in high school and aren't just in one place with a teacher all day. Then you'll see how high schools work. But thanks for telling me how this will go when you in fact have no idea. Have a seat.


Instead of addressing my concerns, you're resorting to insults. I was telling you what options exist from my youngest child’s experience.

I have two kids in high school as well, but I don't experience the "sudden" early releases. In fact, I rarely hear from them because they are generally responsible for their own transportation. They can take the school bus and ART for most activities, or just arrange their own carpool, so I'm not heavily involved except when it’s my turn to drive and that’s known well in advance.

It sounds like your kids may not be as independent as they should be at this stage in high school.


If your kid is actually in high school go ask them how they pull up the ART bus schedule without using their phone.


They use their aps provided laptop which they have free access to.

Coaches all communicate practice cancellations via team app that all players are part of. They get an email when team app cancels a practice. They access the email on their APS laptop.



Let me ask you this. When you need to pull up something quickly when you're on the go, what do YOU use? I'm guessing you don't stop, pull your laptop out of your purse, turn it on, wait for it to power up, balance it on ... something... and check. Instead of pulling out your phone.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.


Schedule changes. What did we do before phones? They will turn their phone the instant they step out of school and get your message don’t worry.


What if I need to pick my kid up early? You really think the office is going to give them that message?


Yes


Well that's nice for you, but my kid's school would not do that.


So you show up for picking up your child early at the front office, and they ignore you and won’t page them?

Our elementary school has a Google form, I imagine high schools could do something similar, maybe ask your PTA.

How often is this a problem? Why are you jump scaring your kids with early pickups more than a couple times a year? What comes up that you can’t discuss in the morning?


Aah, I see your kid is in elementary. Get back to me when they are in high school and aren't just in one place with a teacher all day. Then you'll see how high schools work. But thanks for telling me how this will go when you in fact have no idea. Have a seat.


Instead of addressing my concerns, you're resorting to insults. I was telling you what options exist from my youngest child’s experience.

I have two kids in high school as well, but I don't experience the "sudden" early releases. In fact, I rarely hear from them because they are generally responsible for their own transportation. They can take the school bus and ART for most activities, or just arrange their own carpool, so I'm not heavily involved except when it’s my turn to drive and that’s known well in advance.

It sounds like your kids may not be as independent as they should be at this stage in high school.


If your kid is actually in high school go ask them how they pull up the ART bus schedule without using their phone.

Are they taking the bus during school? That doesn't sound right. Phones are available after school.


high school students come and go, especially older ones.

They're leaving campus to take an ART bus somewhere during the school day with their phone still locked in a pouch? What?
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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.


Schedule changes. What did we do before phones? They will turn their phone the instant they step out of school and get your message don’t worry.


What if I need to pick my kid up early? You really think the office is going to give them that message?


Yes


Well that's nice for you, but my kid's school would not do that.


So you show up for picking up your child early at the front office, and they ignore you and won’t page them?

Our elementary school has a Google form, I imagine high schools could do something similar, maybe ask your PTA.

How often is this a problem? Why are you jump scaring your kids with early pickups more than a couple times a year? What comes up that you can’t discuss in the morning?


Aah, I see your kid is in elementary. Get back to me when they are in high school and aren't just in one place with a teacher all day. Then you'll see how high schools work. But thanks for telling me how this will go when you in fact have no idea. Have a seat.


Instead of addressing my concerns, you're resorting to insults. I was telling you what options exist from my youngest child’s experience.

I have two kids in high school as well, but I don't experience the "sudden" early releases. In fact, I rarely hear from them because they are generally responsible for their own transportation. They can take the school bus and ART for most activities, or just arrange their own carpool, so I'm not heavily involved except when it’s my turn to drive and that’s known well in advance.

It sounds like your kids may not be as independent as they should be at this stage in high school.


If your kid is actually in high school go ask them how they pull up the ART bus schedule without using their phone.


They use their aps provided laptop which they have free access to.

Coaches all communicate practice cancellations via team app that all players are part of. They get an email when team app cancels a practice. They access the email on their APS laptop.



Let me ask you this. When you need to pull up something quickly when you're on the go, what do YOU use? I'm guessing you don't stop, pull your laptop out of your purse, turn it on, wait for it to power up, balance it on ... something... and check. Instead of pulling out your phone.
Aren't they only "on the go" for about 4 minutes between classes? Most of the time during the school day they're in class, likely working on their laptop. The exceptions are classes like PE or music, when they shouldn't be on their phone anyways.

Before and after school they have access to their phone. So this is only during the school day.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.


Schedule changes. What did we do before phones? They will turn their phone the instant they step out of school and get your message don’t worry.


What if I need to pick my kid up early? You really think the office is going to give them that message?


Yes


Well that's nice for you, but my kid's school would not do that.


So you show up for picking up your child early at the front office, and they ignore you and won’t page them?

Our elementary school has a Google form, I imagine high schools could do something similar, maybe ask your PTA.

How often is this a problem? Why are you jump scaring your kids with early pickups more than a couple times a year? What comes up that you can’t discuss in the morning?


Aah, I see your kid is in elementary. Get back to me when they are in high school and aren't just in one place with a teacher all day. Then you'll see how high schools work. But thanks for telling me how this will go when you in fact have no idea. Have a seat.


Instead of addressing my concerns, you're resorting to insults. I was telling you what options exist from my youngest child’s experience.

I have two kids in high school as well, but I don't experience the "sudden" early releases. In fact, I rarely hear from them because they are generally responsible for their own transportation. They can take the school bus and ART for most activities, or just arrange their own carpool, so I'm not heavily involved except when it’s my turn to drive and that’s known well in advance.

It sounds like your kids may not be as independent as they should be at this stage in high school.


If your kid is actually in high school go ask them how they pull up the ART bus schedule without using their phone.


They use their aps provided laptop which they have free access to.

Coaches all communicate practice cancellations via team app that all players are part of. They get an email when team app cancels a practice. They access the email on their APS laptop.



Let me ask you this. When you need to pull up something quickly when you're on the go, what do YOU use? I'm guessing you don't stop, pull your laptop out of your purse, turn it on, wait for it to power up, balance it on ... something... and check. Instead of pulling out your phone.


I’m sorry your student needs to consult their phone to navigate the school building, life will be challenging.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.


Schedule changes. What did we do before phones? They will turn their phone the instant they step out of school and get your message don’t worry.


What if I need to pick my kid up early? You really think the office is going to give them that message?


Yes


Well that's nice for you, but my kid's school would not do that.


So you show up for picking up your child early at the front office, and they ignore you and won’t page them?

Our elementary school has a Google form, I imagine high schools could do something similar, maybe ask your PTA.

How often is this a problem? Why are you jump scaring your kids with early pickups more than a couple times a year? What comes up that you can’t discuss in the morning?


Aah, I see your kid is in elementary. Get back to me when they are in high school and aren't just in one place with a teacher all day. Then you'll see how high schools work. But thanks for telling me how this will go when you in fact have no idea. Have a seat.


Instead of addressing my concerns, you're resorting to insults. I was telling you what options exist from my youngest child’s experience.

I have two kids in high school as well, but I don't experience the "sudden" early releases. In fact, I rarely hear from them because they are generally responsible for their own transportation. They can take the school bus and ART for most activities, or just arrange their own carpool, so I'm not heavily involved except when it’s my turn to drive and that’s known well in advance.

It sounds like your kids may not be as independent as they should be at this stage in high school.


If your kid is actually in high school go ask them how they pull up the ART bus schedule without using their phone.

Are they taking the bus during school? That doesn't sound right. Phones are available after school.


high school students come and go, especially older ones.

They're leaving campus to take an ART bus somewhere during the school day with their phone still locked in a pouch? What?


Enough with the ART you loon. Not everyone wants to take the bus nor does it go everywhere.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.


Schedule changes. What did we do before phones? They will turn their phone the instant they step out of school and get your message don’t worry.


What if I need to pick my kid up early? You really think the office is going to give them that message?


Yes


Well that's nice for you, but my kid's school would not do that.


So you show up for picking up your child early at the front office, and they ignore you and won’t page them?

Our elementary school has a Google form, I imagine high schools could do something similar, maybe ask your PTA.

How often is this a problem? Why are you jump scaring your kids with early pickups more than a couple times a year? What comes up that you can’t discuss in the morning?


Aah, I see your kid is in elementary. Get back to me when they are in high school and aren't just in one place with a teacher all day. Then you'll see how high schools work. But thanks for telling me how this will go when you in fact have no idea. Have a seat.


Instead of addressing my concerns, you're resorting to insults. I was telling you what options exist from my youngest child’s experience.

I have two kids in high school as well, but I don't experience the "sudden" early releases. In fact, I rarely hear from them because they are generally responsible for their own transportation. They can take the school bus and ART for most activities, or just arrange their own carpool, so I'm not heavily involved except when it’s my turn to drive and that’s known well in advance.

It sounds like your kids may not be as independent as they should be at this stage in high school.


If your kid is actually in high school go ask them how they pull up the ART bus schedule without using their phone.

Are they taking the bus during school? That doesn't sound right. Phones are available after school.


high school students come and go, especially older ones.

They're leaving campus to take an ART bus somewhere during the school day with their phone still locked in a pouch? What?


Enough with the ART you loon. Not everyone wants to take the bus nor does it go everywhere.

That was someone else. The point is they can sort all the afternoon out with FaceTiming mom after school.
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Anonymous wrote:Official policy says they must be school or airplane mode. But I wonder how that’s enforced/works in practice.


School mode is useless. It just makes them type their code to unlock it. I told my kid his watch must be in airplane mode or it stays home. He knows I can see how many times he unlocked it during the day.
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Anonymous wrote:What do we do when we want to contact our kids when the high school goes into lockdown?


Sit on your hands like it’s pre-cellphone times. If it’s a crisis, your kids should be focused on following lockdown instructions from teachers and first responders, not having dozens of watches and phones pinging and creating more chaos.
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After reading this thread, I'm considering advocating to adjust one of my kids' IEPs to have their phone on them in honor of all of your condescension towards those who have reasonable criticisms of cellphone bans.

Parent's rights don't exist until it's certain parent's rights I see.

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Anonymous wrote:After reading this thread, I'm considering advocating to adjust one of my kids' IEPs to have their phone on them in honor of all of your condescension towards those who have reasonable criticisms of cellphone bans.

Parent's rights don't exist until it's certain parent's rights I see.


What exactly is your criticism?

I have no problem with kids having access to their cellphone if they have a real need. My DD's best friend always has her cellphone to manage her insulin pump. Totally fine and within APS policy.
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I don't think kids need their phones. I just wonder why they couldn't keep using the pouches in the classrooms that they already paid for. Why this huge expense and time consuming practice going in and out each day?
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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.


Schedule changes. What did we do before phones? They will turn their phone the instant they step out of school and get your message don’t worry.


What if I need to pick my kid up early? You really think the office is going to give them that message?


Yes


Well that's nice for you, but my kid's school would not do that.


Here's the thing. Last year, kids were supposed to be off their phones all day. When my son forgot his lunch, I brought it to school & the front office asked if I let him know it was there. I said "No, his phone is off b/c it's during the day." And the response was "Well, hopefully he'll stop by because we won't be able to alert him it's here."

So, as a Gen X person, when this happened to me in high school, the front office would send a note (via a student that was serving in the front office), to me in class.

They want it both ways: Kids to not be on phones, but also not rely any important info between parent & child.

So you show up for picking up your child early at the front office, and they ignore you and won’t page them?

Our elementary school has a Google form, I imagine high schools could do something similar, maybe ask your PTA.

How often is this a problem? Why are you jump scaring your kids with early pickups more than a couple times a year? What comes up that you can’t discuss in the morning?


Aah, I see your kid is in elementary. Get back to me when they are in high school and aren't just in one place with a teacher all day. Then you'll see how high schools work. But thanks for telling me how this will go when you in fact have no idea. Have a seat.


Instead of addressing my concerns, you're resorting to insults. I was telling you what options exist from my youngest child’s experience.

I have two kids in high school as well, but I don't experience the "sudden" early releases. In fact, I rarely hear from them because they are generally responsible for their own transportation. They can take the school bus and ART for most activities, or just arrange their own carpool, so I'm not heavily involved except when it’s my turn to drive and that’s known well in advance.

It sounds like your kids may not be as independent as they should be at this stage in high school.


If your kid is actually in high school go ask them how they pull up the ART bus schedule without using their phone.


I’m very curious about the age of these mobile phone dependent parents. You have HS students, aren’t you GenX and know how to navigate the world without constant internet connections, like reading a map, paper schedule, and tracking down a phone when needed?
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