APS: Apple Watches and Cell Phone Pouches

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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.

Schedule changes. What did we do before phones? They will turn their phone the instant they step out of school and get your message don’t worry.

What if I need to pick my kid up early? You really think the office is going to give them that message?

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Well that's nice for you, but my kid's school would not do that.

So you show up for picking up your child early at the front office, and they ignore you and won’t page them?

Our elementary school has a Google form, I imagine high schools could do something similar, maybe ask your PTA.

How often is this a problem? Why are you jump scaring your kids with early pickups more than a couple times a year? What comes up that you can’t discuss in the morning?

Aah, I see your kid is in elementary. Get back to me when they are in high school and aren't just in one place with a teacher all day. Then you'll see how high schools work. But thanks for telling me how this will go when you in fact have no idea. Have a seat.

Instead of addressing my concerns, you're resorting to insults. I was telling you what options exist from my youngest child’s experience.

I have two kids in high school as well, but I don't experience the "sudden" early releases. In fact, I rarely hear from them because they are generally responsible for their own transportation. They can take the school bus and ART for most activities, or just arrange their own carpool, so I'm not heavily involved except when it’s my turn to drive and that’s known well in advance.

It sounds like your kids may not be as independent as they should be at this stage in high school.

Ha! Nice insult to my kids' independence. They are still minors. They don't make their own doctor's appointments - I do - and they couldn't now anyways since dr's offices are not open when they get home and now they can't use their cell phones. They can't sign themselves out of school and get themselves to said dr's appts. I have to pick them up. And if there's a last minute change - like they go off to school with a loose braces bracket and I call to get an appt at noon, they can't somehow telephatically just know I will be there to pick them up for said appt at noon.

And did you telepathically know similar things when you were a kid and your mom had to come pick you up for an appointment? No? How on Earth did you manage to get to the doctor's appointment without telepathic knowledge or a text alert that you needed to leave school early?

I really don't understand the big angst. Even high school kids (with the exception of seniors) cannot sign themselves out. A parent has to sign them out. Even as a senior, the student needs a note that they are to leave early - in which case, this is obviously done ahead of time and if there's a change in plans, we're back where we started.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.

Schedule changes. What did we do before phones? They will turn their phone the instant they step out of school and get your message don’t worry.

What if I need to pick my kid up early? You really think the office is going to give them that message?

Yes

Well that's nice for you, but my kid's school would not do that.

So you show up for picking up your child early at the front office, and they ignore you and won’t page them?

Our elementary school has a Google form, I imagine high schools could do something similar, maybe ask your PTA.

How often is this a problem? Why are you jump scaring your kids with early pickups more than a couple times a year? What comes up that you can’t discuss in the morning?

Aah, I see your kid is in elementary. Get back to me when they are in high school and aren't just in one place with a teacher all day. Then you'll see how high schools work. But thanks for telling me how this will go when you in fact have no idea. Have a seat.

Instead of addressing my concerns, you're resorting to insults. I was telling you what options exist from my youngest child’s experience.

I have two kids in high school as well, but I don't experience the "sudden" early releases. In fact, I rarely hear from them because they are generally responsible for their own transportation. They can take the school bus and ART for most activities, or just arrange their own carpool, so I'm not heavily involved except when it’s my turn to drive and that’s known well in advance.

It sounds like your kids may not be as independent as they should be at this stage in high school.

Ha! Nice insult to my kids' independence. They are still minors. They don't make their own doctor's appointments - I do - and they couldn't now anyways since dr's offices are not open when they get home and now they can't use their cell phones. They can't sign themselves out of school and get themselves to said dr's appts. I have to pick them up. And if there's a last minute change - like they go off to school with a loose braces bracket and I call to get an appt at noon, they can't somehow telephatically just know I will be there to pick them up for said appt at noon.

I have 3 kids. 2 high schoolers and 1 in 5th.

I’ve never had this rash of sudden change in doctors appointments; for our 2 ortho emergencies you just go to the office and they track them down. Are your kids special needs, mine go to an annual physical and annual derm, and two dentists. They know about them the morning before. What appointments are scheduled while they are in school for that day?

As for sports cancelling leaving them at school, I’m still confused. Arlington is tiny, the ART goes every where, even if they miss the bus they can take ART or the late bus. But why is a school practice not notifying the students at school that practice is cancelled — that is an oversight and seems likely lazy coaches got used to students having phones. So complain to principals and they will pull them in line.

THIS!! Exactly!!! The teachers and coaches all changed their behaviors and acquiesced to the phones just as much as parents and students did. Coaches need to go back to notifying the office and having the office make announcements at the end of the school day -- this can be in addition to team text alerts. And before y'all start complaining about interrupting the last five minutes of the last class of the day, really??!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All of these posts that parents are texting with their kids during the school day has me even more convinced that phones should be away. Kids should be focused on school.

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.

Everyone will survive just fine. Wakefield managed, y'all will too.

No Wakefield didn't manage just fine.

signed,
someone who knows

I've been a Wakefield parent with two students since the various "bans" were initiated and one with the pouch system last year. Yes, they did manage. There were bumps and hiccups and not all the students complied. But the school overall managed just fine.

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Anonymous wrote:What do we do when we want to contact our kids when the high school goes into lockdown?

YOU DON'T -- just like before pouches when you SHOULDN'T have.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.

Schedule changes. What did we do before phones? They will turn their phone the instant they step out of school and get your message don’t worry.

Schools have a huge number of kids. They don't have time to do that. What did we do? We had access to pay phones and would call at lunch or between classes.

And kids can still do that with their cell phones at lunch. Wakefield had a system for kids to access their phones for brief "check-ins" during their lunch period if necessary. If you need something before that, the student can go to the office to contact the parent and the parent can call the office to coordinate any urgent matter with the student.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.

Schedule changes. What did we do before phones? They will turn their phone the instant they step out of school and get your message don’t worry.

Schools have a huge number of kids. They don't have time to do that. What did we do? We had access to pay phones and would call at lunch or between classes.

So your stance is that kids used to call their parents in the middle of the day every day on phones at lunch to check if the schedule had changed??

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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.

Schedule changes. What did we do before phones? They will turn their phone the instant they step out of school and get your message don’t worry.

Schools have a huge number of kids. They don't have time to do that. What did we do? We had access to pay phones and would call at lunch or between classes.

So your stance is that kids used to call their parents in the middle of the day every day on phones at lunch to check if the schedule had changed??

We weren't allowed to used the payphones during the day when I was in highschool. You had to go to the office to make a call. Parents had to call the office to leave a message for a student.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.

Schedule changes. What did we do before phones? They will turn their phone the instant they step out of school and get your message don’t worry.

Schools have a huge number of kids. They don't have time to do that. What did we do? We had access to pay phones and would call at lunch or between classes.

So your stance is that kids used to call their parents in the middle of the day every day on phones at lunch to check if the schedule had changed??

DP; but I think they mean if the child's schedule changed and they needed to notify the parents?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.

Schedule changes. What did we do before phones? They will turn their phone the instant they step out of school and get your message don’t worry.

Schools have a huge number of kids. They don't have time to do that. What did we do? We had access to pay phones and would call at lunch or between classes.

So your stance is that kids used to call their parents in the middle of the day every day on phones at lunch to check if the schedule had changed??

We weren't allowed to used the payphones during the day when I was in highschool. You had to go to the office to make a call. Parents had to call the office to leave a message for a student.

That works.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.

Schedule changes. What did we do before phones? They will turn their phone the instant they step out of school and get your message don’t worry.

What if I need to pick my kid up early? You really think the office is going to give them that message?

Yes

Well that's nice for you, but my kid's school would not do that.

So you show up for picking up your child early at the front office, and they ignore you and won’t page them?

Our elementary school has a Google form, I imagine high schools could do something similar, maybe ask your PTA.

How often is this a problem? Why are you jump scaring your kids with early pickups more than a couple times a year? What comes up that you can’t discuss in the morning?

Aah, I see your kid is in elementary. Get back to me when they are in high school and aren't just in one place with a teacher all day. Then you'll see how high schools work. But thanks for telling me how this will go when you in fact have no idea. Have a seat.

Instead of addressing my concerns, you're resorting to insults. I was telling you what options exist from my youngest child’s experience.

I have two kids in high school as well, but I don't experience the "sudden" early releases. In fact, I rarely hear from them because they are generally responsible for their own transportation. They can take the school bus and ART for most activities, or just arrange their own carpool, so I'm not heavily involved except when it’s my turn to drive and that’s known well in advance.

It sounds like your kids may not be as independent as they should be at this stage in high school.

If your kid is actually in high school go ask them how they pull up the ART bus schedule without using their phone.

[Anonymous]

Are there pouches in middle school
Too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are there pouches in middle school
Too?

No, not this year. Cell phones will stay in lockers.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.

Schedule changes. What did we do before phones? They will turn their phone the instant they step out of school and get your message don’t worry.

What if I need to pick my kid up early? You really think the office is going to give them that message?

Yes

Well that's nice for you, but my kid's school would not do that.

So you show up for picking up your child early at the front office, and they ignore you and won’t page them?

Our elementary school has a Google form, I imagine high schools could do something similar, maybe ask your PTA.

How often is this a problem? Why are you jump scaring your kids with early pickups more than a couple times a year? What comes up that you can’t discuss in the morning?

Aah, I see your kid is in elementary. Get back to me when they are in high school and aren't just in one place with a teacher all day. Then you'll see how high schools work. But thanks for telling me how this will go when you in fact have no idea. Have a seat.

Instead of addressing my concerns, you're resorting to insults. I was telling you what options exist from my youngest child’s experience.

I have two kids in high school as well, but I don't experience the "sudden" early releases. In fact, I rarely hear from them because they are generally responsible for their own transportation. They can take the school bus and ART for most activities, or just arrange their own carpool, so I'm not heavily involved except when it’s my turn to drive and that’s known well in advance.

It sounds like your kids may not be as independent as they should be at this stage in high school.

If your kid is actually in high school go ask them how they pull up the ART bus schedule without using their phone.

Are they taking the bus during school? That doesn't sound right. Phones are available after school.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the pouches. Don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do wonder how the front office is going to manage all the parents calling with schedule changes. And frankly the biggest communicator of mid day schedule changes and providing same day info during the day was my kid’s high school coach who was also a teacher at the school.

I bet a lot of kids get watches. Turn them on during lunch or switching classes or keep them on all day.

Schedule changes. What did we do before phones? They will turn their phone the instant they step out of school and get your message don’t worry.

What if I need to pick my kid up early? You really think the office is going to give them that message?

Yes

Well that's nice for you, but my kid's school would not do that.

So you show up for picking up your child early at the front office, and they ignore you and won’t page them?

Our elementary school has a Google form, I imagine high schools could do something similar, maybe ask your PTA.

How often is this a problem? Why are you jump scaring your kids with early pickups more than a couple times a year? What comes up that you can’t discuss in the morning?

Aah, I see your kid is in elementary. Get back to me when they are in high school and aren't just in one place with a teacher all day. Then you'll see how high schools work. But thanks for telling me how this will go when you in fact have no idea. Have a seat.

Instead of addressing my concerns, you're resorting to insults. I was telling you what options exist from my youngest child’s experience.

I have two kids in high school as well, but I don't experience the "sudden" early releases. In fact, I rarely hear from them because they are generally responsible for their own transportation. They can take the school bus and ART for most activities, or just arrange their own carpool, so I'm not heavily involved except when it’s my turn to drive and that’s known well in advance.

It sounds like your kids may not be as independent as they should be at this stage in high school.

If your kid is actually in high school go ask them how they pull up the ART bus schedule without using their phone.

Are they taking the bus during school? That doesn't sound right. Phones are available after school.

The schedules are published. You can print them out, put a PDF in their school account, they may even have free maps and schedules at the public library. They also can know the route like 55 comes every 15 minutes.

They aren’t splitting the atom to catch a bus.

And as PP said, as they are walking out of school they can flip on their phone and look at all the bus schedules they wish.