Why do women focus on men and their dating issues? Why do women care?

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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands


If the women were higher quality themselves, they wouldn't be struggling to find a man. Some of us had no problems finding one


This! Many high quality men do not want women that have taken on masculine characteristics pushed by angry feminism. They also find what women are currently doing to their bodies is gross. Botox, duck lips, fillers, ass implants. Women don't even look like women anymore.
These women act like when looking for a man, they are shopping on the clearance rack but they fail to understand that they are also on the clearance rack.

And yet men are the ones calling Pam Anderson ugly because she isn’t dolled up to the 9s. And considering the OF women who look like all of those things and are making bank, that doesn’t add up. Clearly men do like that look.


Uh, men "like" looking at strippers and egirls and will pay to look at them, but they don't want to be married to that.

Generally men don't look at OF girls with botox, duck lips, fillers, ass implants. Why would they when there are plenty of young OF girls without all that gross stuff?


Y'all, one of the richest men in the world just married this very stereotype, so maybe your "research" isn't as accurate as you'd like to think


Billionaires married to ugly women is a meme.



Also, you’re not Southern, stop saying “y’all” you phony re yard.
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Anonymous wrote:Why do women focus on men and their dating issues? Why do women care? I'm seeing these articles in NY times WPost and it always boils down to men's struggles in the dating market. Why do women care especially since they are not the issue? I don't get it


Women tend to be more interested in whole dating, romance, ring, proposal, engagement, dress, wedding, honeymoon etc.


And once they’ve had their glorious celebration of narcissism, they lose interest in doing the things that caused the man to propose to them, oh well.
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Late 30's man here. When I was younger marriage/children seemed like the default path and was pushed in the media. As I got older and saw my friends enter this stage of life, the realities became much more apparent. Frankly, their lives do not seem very enjoyable. Raising children seems like a pain and their wives are stressed too. They need more money to provide for their families and end up pursuing higher salary jobs that suck. I wouldn't switch places with any of my friends right now. It would take an exceptional woman for me to want to go down that path. I'm fine being alone... at least I have my freedom.
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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands


If the women were higher quality themselves, they wouldn't be struggling to find a man. Some of us had no problems finding one


It's pretty easy to find a partner in college or grad school. They are at similar places in life. There are commonalities in intelligence, ambition, and values. And it's easy to meet people in a stress-free, non-dating environment. It's all very natural.

Nothing about post-25 dating is natural in 2025. The apps were interesting for a brief minute. But now its some mega-corporation that owns all the apps, and their only interest is money. So that's done. Me Too, which was very necessary, had a big impact. But now it's only the high-risk tolerance men asking a colleague out for coffee or a drink. The blow back for a rejection is potentially career-ending. It used to be normal to meet people at work. Not today. The more ambitious people are not dating anyone in the office.

People also aren't having dinner parties these days. Which is a sad loss.

So where are people over the age of 25 supposed to go if they want to meet a partner and have a family? Before anyone says it - Church is not the place. And volunteering and so on seems forced. The people that are really there to help the puppies are often there because they really want to help the puppies - and not deal with flirty newcomers.

I think the biggest problem in modern dating is that there isn't a natural, organic space for people to meet and get to know each other outside some forced dating construct. Sports is probably the best. I do believe this explains the otherwise very mysterious rise of Pickleball.

It's an odd time. Post 25 men are quick to check out. And post 25 women get hungrier to find a partner. And we don't we have a great social world presently to find a balance.


As satire goes, this is pretty good. Lamenting the loss of dinner parties. The great pickleball conspiracy. Good stuff, PP.


as an introvert, approaching a beautiful woman on the street feels impossible—let alone holding a 30-second conversation.


It 2025. No need to regress and normalize street harassment. There are enough safety issues for us as it is.

And yes, I know I should smile more.
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Anonymous wrote:Late 30's man here. When I was younger marriage/children seemed like the default path and was pushed in the media. As I got older and saw my friends enter this stage of life, the realities became much more apparent. Frankly, their lives do not seem very enjoyable. Raising children seems like a pain and their wives are stressed too. They need more money to provide for their families and end up pursuing higher salary jobs that suck. I wouldn't switch places with any of my friends right now. It would take an exceptional woman for me to want to go down that path. I'm fine being alone... at least I have my freedom.


Yeah it sucks some times but humans to an extent are built for struggle. I'm not saying this is true for you, but when I go into work and catch up with people's weekends a lot of the child free people hadn't really done shit worth talking about with their glorious free time. Oh, you played Vidya games? Cool
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Anonymous wrote:Late 30's man here. When I was younger marriage/children seemed like the default path and was pushed in the media. As I got older and saw my friends enter this stage of life, the realities became much more apparent. Frankly, their lives do not seem very enjoyable. Raising children seems like a pain and their wives are stressed too. They need more money to provide for their families and end up pursuing higher salary jobs that suck. I wouldn't switch places with any of my friends right now. It would take an exceptional woman for me to want to go down that path. I'm fine being alone... at least I have my freedom.


Yeah it sucks some times but humans to an extent are built for struggle. I'm not saying this is true for you, but when I go into work and catch up with people's weekends a lot of the child free people hadn't really done shit worth talking about with their glorious free time. Oh, you played Vidya games? Cool

Dp, but ok there Hank Hill. You sound jealous of all their free time. If someone doesn’t want kids they are not going to be a good parent. Stop pushing kids on people who clearly don’t want that life.
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Anonymous wrote:Late 30's man here. When I was younger marriage/children seemed like the default path and was pushed in the media. As I got older and saw my friends enter this stage of life, the realities became much more apparent. Frankly, their lives do not seem very enjoyable. Raising children seems like a pain and their wives are stressed too. They need more money to provide for their families and end up pursuing higher salary jobs that suck. I wouldn't switch places with any of my friends right now. It would take an exceptional woman for me to want to go down that path. I'm fine being alone... at least I have my freedom.


Yeah it sucks some times but humans to an extent are built for struggle. I'm not saying this is true for you, but when I go into work and catch up with people's weekends a lot of the child free people hadn't really done shit worth talking about with their glorious free time. Oh, you played Vidya games? Cool

“Humans are built for struggle” aka my life sucks and yours should too. No thanks.
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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands

Since it’s easier to find quality women, why don’t they date women?
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Anonymous wrote:Late 30's man here. When I was younger marriage/children seemed like the default path and was pushed in the media. As I got older and saw my friends enter this stage of life, the realities became much more apparent. Frankly, their lives do not seem very enjoyable. Raising children seems like a pain and their wives are stressed too. They need more money to provide for their families and end up pursuing higher salary jobs that suck. I wouldn't switch places with any of my friends right now. It would take an exceptional woman for me to want to go down that path. I'm fine being alone... at least I have my freedom.


Yeah it sucks some times but humans to an extent are built for struggle. I'm not saying this is true for you, but when I go into work and catch up with people's weekends a lot of the child free people hadn't really done shit worth talking about with their glorious free time. Oh, you played Vidya games? Cool

Dp, but ok there Hank Hill. You sound jealous of all their free time. If someone doesn’t want kids they are not going to be a good parent. Stop pushing kids on people who clearly don’t want that life.


I don't think these people should have kids idiot, they're kids themselves. And their lives ain't shit lol
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Anonymous wrote:Late 30's man here. When I was younger marriage/children seemed like the default path and was pushed in the media. As I got older and saw my friends enter this stage of life, the realities became much more apparent. Frankly, their lives do not seem very enjoyable. Raising children seems like a pain and their wives are stressed too. They need more money to provide for their families and end up pursuing higher salary jobs that suck. I wouldn't switch places with any of my friends right now. It would take an exceptional woman for me to want to go down that path. I'm fine being alone... at least I have my freedom.


Yeah it sucks some times but humans to an extent are built for struggle. I'm not saying this is true for you, but when I go into work and catch up with people's weekends a lot of the child free people hadn't really done shit worth talking about with their glorious free time. Oh, you played Vidya games? Cool

Dp, but ok there Hank Hill. You sound jealous of all their free time. If someone doesn’t want kids they are not going to be a good parent. Stop pushing kids on people who clearly don’t want that life.


What I found after I had kids was I didn’t miss the “free time” I had before that, and spending time with my kids was really great!
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Anonymous wrote:Late 30's man here. When I was younger marriage/children seemed like the default path and was pushed in the media. As I got older and saw my friends enter this stage of life, the realities became much more apparent. Frankly, their lives do not seem very enjoyable. Raising children seems like a pain and their wives are stressed too. They need more money to provide for their families and end up pursuing higher salary jobs that suck. I wouldn't switch places with any of my friends right now. It would take an exceptional woman for me to want to go down that path. I'm fine being alone... at least I have my freedom.


My nephews are like this. They are in their late 20’s and early 30’s. Both have really great jobs and have a lot of females in their orbits. As someone who is older, I can tell these women are looking to “settle down”. They has told me they are not interested in settling down ever.
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Anonymous wrote:Late 30's man here. When I was younger marriage/children seemed like the default path and was pushed in the media. As I got older and saw my friends enter this stage of life, the realities became much more apparent. Frankly, their lives do not seem very enjoyable. Raising children seems like a pain and their wives are stressed too. They need more money to provide for their families and end up pursuing higher salary jobs that suck. I wouldn't switch places with any of my friends right now. It would take an exceptional woman for me to want to go down that path. I'm fine being alone... at least I have my freedom.


Yeah it sucks some times but humans to an extent are built for struggle. I'm not saying this is true for you, but when I go into work and catch up with people's weekends a lot of the child free people hadn't really done shit worth talking about with their glorious free time. Oh, you played Vidya games? Cool

Dp, but ok there Hank Hill. You sound jealous of all their free time. If someone doesn’t want kids they are not going to be a good parent. Stop pushing kids on people who clearly don’t want that life.


What I found after I had kids was I didn’t miss the “free time” I had before that, and spending time with my kids was really great!


What about all the emotional labor?
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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands


If the women were higher quality themselves, they wouldn't be struggling to find a man. Some of us had no problems finding one


This! Many high quality men do not want women that have taken on masculine characteristics pushed by angry feminism. They also find what women are currently doing to their bodies is gross. Botox, duck lips, fillers, ass implants. Women don't even look like women anymore.
These women act like when looking for a man, they are shopping on the clearance rack but they fail to understand that they are also on the clearance rack.

And yet men are the ones calling Pam Anderson ugly because she isn’t dolled up to the 9s. And considering the OF women who look like all of those things and are making bank, that doesn’t add up. Clearly men do like that look.


Uh, men "like" looking at strippers and egirls and will pay to look at them, but they don't want to be married to that.

Generally men don't look at OF girls with botox, duck lips, fillers, ass implants. Why would they when there are plenty of young OF girls without all that gross stuff?


Y'all, one of the richest men in the world just married this very stereotype, so maybe your "research" isn't as accurate as you'd like to think


Billionaires married to ugly women is a meme.



Also, you’re not Southern, stop saying “y’all” you phony re yard.


Hilarious meme! Clicked/saved.
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Anonymous wrote:Late 30's man here. When I was younger marriage/children seemed like the default path and was pushed in the media. As I got older and saw my friends enter this stage of life, the realities became much more apparent. Frankly, their lives do not seem very enjoyable. Raising children seems like a pain and their wives are stressed too. They need more money to provide for their families and end up pursuing higher salary jobs that suck. I wouldn't switch places with any of my friends right now. It would take an exceptional woman for me to want to go down that path. I'm fine being alone... at least I have my freedom.


My nephews are like this. They are in their late 20’s and early 30’s. Both have really great jobs and have a lot of females in their orbits. As someone who is older, I can tell these women are looking to “settle down”. They has told me they are not interested in settling down ever.


Not uncommon for younger men to say that these days, considering how terrible younger women have become.
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Anonymous wrote:Late 30's man here. When I was younger marriage/children seemed like the default path and was pushed in the media. As I got older and saw my friends enter this stage of life, the realities became much more apparent. Frankly, their lives do not seem very enjoyable. Raising children seems like a pain and their wives are stressed too. They need more money to provide for their families and end up pursuing higher salary jobs that suck. I wouldn't switch places with any of my friends right now. It would take an exceptional woman for me to want to go down that path. I'm fine being alone... at least I have my freedom.


Yeah it sucks some times but humans to an extent are built for struggle. I'm not saying this is true for you, but when I go into work and catch up with people's weekends a lot of the child free people hadn't really done shit worth talking about with their glorious free time. Oh, you played Vidya games? Cool

Dp, but ok there Hank Hill. You sound jealous of all their free time. If someone doesn’t want kids they are not going to be a good parent. Stop pushing kids on people who clearly don’t want that life.


What I found after I had kids was I didn’t miss the “free time” I had before that, and spending time with my kids was really great!


Right.
You’re definitely convincing us and yourself as well.
Your life sucks and yours want everyone else’s to as well. No thanks.
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