Why do women focus on men and their dating issues? Why do women care?

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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands


If the women were higher quality themselves, they wouldn't be struggling to find a man. Some of us had no problems finding one


This! Many high quality men do not want women that have taken on masculine characteristics pushed by angry feminism. They also find what women are currently doing to their bodies is gross. Botox, duck lips, fillers, ass implants. Women don't even look like women anymore.
These women act like when looking for a man, they are shopping on the clearance rack but they fail to understand that they are also on the clearance rack.

And yet men are the ones calling Pam Anderson ugly because she isn’t dolled up to the 9s. And considering the OF women who look like all of those things and are making bank, that doesn’t add up. Clearly men do like that look.


Uh, men "like" looking at strippers and egirls and will pay to look at them, but they don't want to be married to that.

Generally men don't look at OF girls with botox, duck lips, fillers, ass implants. Why would they when there are plenty of young OF girls without all that gross stuff?
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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands


If the women were higher quality themselves, they wouldn't be struggling to find a man. Some of us had no problems finding one


This! Many high quality men do not want women that have taken on masculine characteristics pushed by angry feminism. They also find what women are currently doing to their bodies is gross. Botox, duck lips, fillers, ass implants. Women don't even look like women anymore.
These women act like when looking for a man, they are shopping on the clearance rack but they fail to understand that they are also on the clearance rack.

And yet men are the ones calling Pam Anderson ugly because she isn’t dolled up to the 9s. And considering the OF women who look like all of those things and are making bank, that doesn’t add up. Clearly men do like that look.


Uh, men "like" looking at strippers and egirls and will pay to look at them, but they don't want to be married to that.

Generally men don't look at OF girls with botox, duck lips, fillers, ass implants. Why would they when there are plenty of young OF girls without all that gross stuff?

They have them, you just can’t tell 😂 just proving the pp right.

Men will spend thousands of dollars on women who look that way. They are definitely liking what they see.
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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands


If the women were higher quality themselves, they wouldn't be struggling to find a man. Some of us had no problems finding one


This! Many high quality men do not want women that have taken on masculine characteristics pushed by angry feminism. They also find what women are currently doing to their bodies is gross. Botox, duck lips, fillers, ass implants. Women don't even look like women anymore.
These women act like when looking for a man, they are shopping on the clearance rack but they fail to understand that they are also on the clearance rack.

And yet men are the ones calling Pam Anderson ugly because she isn’t dolled up to the 9s. And considering the OF women who look like all of those things and are making bank, that doesn’t add up. Clearly men do like that look. Most men can’t tell when someone’s had Botox fillers or implants unless poorly done. They also love the “no makeup look” which is clearly still caked in makeup.

Sounds like men are confused. Or at least this pp.


We love that look to f**k, but not to marry. My wife is who I love is very different from the women i found "attractive" when I wasn't ready to settle.

Women are conservative in their appearance, don't flaunt their a**s and boobs are very valuable for marriage. And surprise surprise these are the women more likely to find a husband without trying too hard.

Ouch, so you wanted a hot f***able OF woman but “settled” for your conservative wife? Yikes.
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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands


If the women were higher quality themselves, they wouldn't be struggling to find a man. Some of us had no problems finding one


This! Many high quality men do not want women that have taken on masculine characteristics pushed by angry feminism. They also find what women are currently doing to their bodies is gross. Botox, duck lips, fillers, ass implants. Women don't even look like women anymore.
These women act like when looking for a man, they are shopping on the clearance rack but they fail to understand that they are also on the clearance rack.

And yet men are the ones calling Pam Anderson ugly because she isn’t dolled up to the 9s. And considering the OF women who look like all of those things and are making bank, that doesn’t add up. Clearly men do like that look.


Uh, men "like" looking at strippers and egirls and will pay to look at them, but they don't want to be married to that.

Generally men don't look at OF girls with botox, duck lips, fillers, ass implants. Why would they when there are plenty of young OF girls without all that gross stuff?

Why do you keep referencing children? You are a gross predator, no one cares about the young girls you’re into.
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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands


If the women were higher quality themselves, they wouldn't be struggling to find a man. Some of us had no problems finding one


This! Many high quality men do not want women that have taken on masculine characteristics pushed by angry feminism. They also find what women are currently doing to their bodies is gross. Botox, duck lips, fillers, ass implants. Women don't even look like women anymore.
These women act like when looking for a man, they are shopping on the clearance rack but they fail to understand that they are also on the clearance rack.

And yet men are the ones calling Pam Anderson ugly because she isn’t dolled up to the 9s. And considering the OF women who look like all of those things and are making bank, that doesn’t add up. Clearly men do like that look. Most men can’t tell when someone’s had Botox fillers or implants unless poorly done. They also love the “no makeup look” which is clearly still caked in makeup.

Sounds like men are confused. Or at least this pp.


We love that look to f**k, but not to marry. My wife is who I love is very different from the women i found "attractive" when I wasn't ready to settle.

Women are conservative in their appearance, don't flaunt their a**s and boobs are very valuable for marriage. And surprise surprise these are the women more likely to find a husband without trying too hard.

So you DO like what those women are doing and how they look, you just settled for some ugged up version? I hope you never tell your wife that. I don’t know if her self esteem would recover.


Men don't want want to marry a sl**ty looking women. This is nothing new. A wife is different from a hookup. Men don't want to spend the rest of their lives with someone who has been ran through by all kind of men. They want a beautiful woman who is not begging for attention from other men. They don't want a woman who got to great lengths for every guy to see the thing she is wearing.
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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands


If the women were higher quality themselves, they wouldn't be struggling to find a man. Some of us had no problems finding one


Finding a man becomes exponentially harder once one doesn’t need one, like me.

It was easy to find a husband when I needed one to have a family (or, perceived that I did due to societal expectations to marry before procreating).

I don’t need one for anything anymore- they’re great because sure with with someone amazing is better than solo- but bad sex is way worse than solo sex, and a bad relationship or the burden of carrying a man’s emotional and social load just isn’t one I’m interested in undertaking again.

Men had an upside before to offset all that is ungainly about them. But once one doesn’t need a man financially or socially : the ROI is exceedingly low.
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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands


If the women were higher quality themselves, they wouldn't be struggling to find a man. Some of us had no problems finding one


Finding a man becomes exponentially harder once one doesn’t need one, like me.

It was easy to find a husband when I needed one to have a family (or, perceived that I did due to societal expectations to marry before procreating).

I don’t need one for anything anymore- they’re great because sure with with someone amazing is better than solo- but bad sex is way worse than solo sex, and a bad relationship or the burden of carrying a man’s emotional and social load just isn’t one I’m interested in undertaking again.

Men had an upside before to offset all that is ungainly about them. But once one doesn’t need a man financially or socially : the ROI is exceedingly low.


Truth.
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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands


If the women were higher quality themselves, they wouldn't be struggling to find a man. Some of us had no problems finding one


This! Many high quality men do not want women that have taken on masculine characteristics pushed by angry feminism. They also find what women are currently doing to their bodies is gross. Botox, duck lips, fillers, ass implants. Women don't even look like women anymore.
These women act like when looking for a man, they are shopping on the clearance rack but they fail to understand that they are also on the clearance rack.

And yet men are the ones calling Pam Anderson ugly because she isn’t dolled up to the 9s. And considering the OF women who look like all of those things and are making bank, that doesn’t add up. Clearly men do like that look. Most men can’t tell when someone’s had Botox fillers or implants unless poorly done. They also love the “no makeup look” which is clearly still caked in makeup.

Sounds like men are confused. Or at least this pp.


We love that look to f**k, but not to marry. My wife is who I love is very different from the women i found "attractive" when I wasn't ready to settle.

Women are conservative in their appearance, don't flaunt their a**s and boobs are very valuable for marriage. And surprise surprise these are the women more likely to find a husband without trying too hard.

So you DO like what those women are doing and how they look, you just settled for some ugged up version? I hope you never tell your wife that. I don’t know if her self esteem would recover.


Men don't want want to marry a sl**ty looking women. This is nothing new. A wife is different from a hookup. Men don't want to spend the rest of their lives with someone who has been ran through by all kind of men. They want a beautiful woman who is not begging for attention from other men. They don't want a woman who got to great lengths for every guy to see the thing she is wearing.


Anyone really hot and slutty is unlikely to become a long term faithful partner, nothing wrong as this is expected. Novelty wears off and as someone used to changing partners would get bored. This isn't complicated neuroscience, just basic psychology.
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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands


If the women were higher quality themselves, they wouldn't be struggling to find a man. Some of us had no problems finding one


This! Many high quality men do not want women that have taken on masculine characteristics pushed by angry feminism. They also find what women are currently doing to their bodies is gross. Botox, duck lips, fillers, ass implants. Women don't even look like women anymore.
These women act like when looking for a man, they are shopping on the clearance rack but they fail to understand that they are also on the clearance rack.

And yet men are the ones calling Pam Anderson ugly because she isn’t dolled up to the 9s. And considering the OF women who look like all of those things and are making bank, that doesn’t add up. Clearly men do like that look. Most men can’t tell when someone’s had Botox fillers or implants unless poorly done. They also love the “no makeup look” which is clearly still caked in makeup.

Sounds like men are confused. Or at least this pp.


We love that look to f**k, but not to marry. My wife is who I love is very different from the women i found "attractive" when I wasn't ready to settle.

Women are conservative in their appearance, don't flaunt their a**s and boobs are very valuable for marriage. And surprise surprise these are the women more likely to find a husband without trying too hard.

So you DO like what those women are doing and how they look, you just settled for some ugged up version? I hope you never tell your wife that. I don’t know if her self esteem would recover.


Men don't want want to marry a sl**ty looking women. This is nothing new. A wife is different from a hookup. Men don't want to spend the rest of their lives with someone who has been ran through by all kind of men. They want a beautiful woman who is not begging for attention from other men. They don't want a woman who got to great lengths for every guy to see the thing she is wearing.

Bet the hottie with great tits is who you fantasize about while blowing your conservative trad wife. But sure, keep on.
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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands


If the women were higher quality themselves, they wouldn't be struggling to find a man. Some of us had no problems finding one


This! Many high quality men do not want women that have taken on masculine characteristics pushed by angry feminism. They also find what women are currently doing to their bodies is gross. Botox, duck lips, fillers, ass implants. Women don't even look like women anymore.
These women act like when looking for a man, they are shopping on the clearance rack but they fail to understand that they are also on the clearance rack.

And yet men are the ones calling Pam Anderson ugly because she isn’t dolled up to the 9s. And considering the OF women who look like all of those things and are making bank, that doesn’t add up. Clearly men do like that look. Most men can’t tell when someone’s had Botox fillers or implants unless poorly done. They also love the “no makeup look” which is clearly still caked in makeup.

Sounds like men are confused. Or at least this pp.


We love that look to f**k, but not to marry. My wife is who I love is very different from the women i found "attractive" when I wasn't ready to settle.

Women are conservative in their appearance, don't flaunt their a**s and boobs are very valuable for marriage. And surprise surprise these are the women more likely to find a husband without trying too hard.

So you DO like what those women are doing and how they look, you just settled for some ugged up version? I hope you never tell your wife that. I don’t know if her self esteem would recover.


Men don't want want to marry a sl**ty looking women. This is nothing new. A wife is different from a hookup. Men don't want to spend the rest of their lives with someone who has been ran through by all kind of men. They want a beautiful woman who is not begging for attention from other men. They don't want a woman who got to great lengths for every guy to see the thing she is wearing.

Bet the hottie with great tits is who you fantasize about while blowing your conservative trad wife. But sure, keep on.

lol that was supposed to be plowing.
Anonymous
My father holds an MBA from Stanford and is now an Executive VP at Vingroup. He married my mother, a George Mason graduate with a degree in International Relations, shortly before I was born—she chose to be a stay-at-home mom. His first marriage was to a high-powered career woman, but it ended in less than a year. He always says my mother brings him peace; there’s no drama when he comes home. Given how much he earns, he’s made it clear he doesn’t need—or want—the stress of a “boss b****” (his phrasing, not mine).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My father holds an MBA from Stanford and is now an Executive VP at Vingroup. He married my mother, a George Mason graduate with a degree in International Relations, shortly before I was born—she chose to be a stay-at-home mom. His first marriage was to a high-powered career woman, but it ended in less than a year. He always says my mother brings him peace; there’s no drama when he comes home. Given how much he earns, he’s made it clear he doesn’t need—or want—the stress of a “boss b****” (his phrasing, not mine).

Yikes, you’re taking advice from a divorced misogynist? Not the flex you think it is.
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Anonymous wrote:They do because they are struggling to find quality men. When women want something they are on a mission. So it's to their benefits that men don't give up on dating. Women aren't going to admit it, but the vast majority are compromising big time on the person they are currently dating. When 10 women have at most 5 quality guys to pick from clearly most will end up with their options #3 or #4. This is why you see all these threads that have common themes about their bfs/fiancees/husbands


If the women were higher quality themselves, they wouldn't be struggling to find a man. Some of us had no problems finding one


This! Many high quality men do not want women that have taken on masculine characteristics pushed by angry feminism. They also find what women are currently doing to their bodies is gross. Botox, duck lips, fillers, ass implants. Women don't even look like women anymore.
These women act like when looking for a man, they are shopping on the clearance rack but they fail to understand that they are also on the clearance rack.

And yet men are the ones calling Pam Anderson ugly because she isn’t dolled up to the 9s. And considering the OF women who look like all of those things and are making bank, that doesn’t add up. Clearly men do like that look. Most men can’t tell when someone’s had Botox fillers or implants unless poorly done. They also love the “no makeup look” which is clearly still caked in makeup.

Sounds like men are confused. Or at least this pp.


We love that look to f**k, but not to marry. My wife is who I love is very different from the women i found "attractive" when I wasn't ready to settle.

Women are conservative in their appearance, don't flaunt their a**s and boobs are very valuable for marriage. And surprise surprise these are the women more likely to find a husband without trying too hard.

So you DO like what those women are doing and how they look, you just settled for some ugged up version? I hope you never tell your wife that. I don’t know if her self esteem would recover.


Men don't want want to marry a sl**ty looking women. This is nothing new. A wife is different from a hookup. Men don't want to spend the rest of their lives with someone who has been ran through by all kind of men. They want a beautiful woman who is not begging for attention from other men. They don't want a woman who got to great lengths for every guy to see the thing she is wearing.

You don’t sound married. You don’t even sound like an adult. “Slutty looking”? “Ran through”? Are all women with big boobs and fillers “slutty looking”? And you assuming because a woman looks like that she must have slept with many people? You need to stop watching porn, seems like it’s rotting your brain.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why do women focus on men and their dating issues? Why do women care? I'm seeing these articles in NY times WPost and it always boils down to men's struggles in the dating market. Why do women care especially since they are not the issue? I don't get it


If the problem is all men then there is no problem with women- ie women feel better about themselves when they blame men for everything. About 1/2 the single straight men 18-30 are not interested in “dating” or a relationship with a woman. Maybe that is Covid hangover and the rise of online social culture?

The men who are interested in dating are not approaching women IRL, not pursuing, waiting for the women to make the first move, etc. Women have told men not to approach and most men have listened. Some women are happy with this and others are not. The ones who are not happy are complaining and getting a lot of media attention.

I think what you are seeing is a shift in the dating culture. The US is becoming more like the Iceland, Norway, etc. There men and women are seen as equal and it is reflected in the dating culture and male/female interaction. Men and women equally ask each other out, split the bill, make the first move, etc. Women in the US are caught in this culture shift, do not like it and complain about it. This shift is also reflected in salaries. Women and men 22 to about 33 make the same amount with women actually earning more in urban areas. These areas where women are complaining the most is in urban areas.


In a few years everyone will adjust to the new reality. This will favor some women/men over others just like the old dating culture did.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My father holds an MBA from Stanford and is now an Executive VP at Vingroup. He married my mother, a George Mason graduate with a degree in International Relations, shortly before I was born—she chose to be a stay-at-home mom. His first marriage was to a high-powered career woman, but it ended in less than a year. He always says my mother brings him peace; there’s no drama when he comes home. Given how much he earns, he’s made it clear he doesn’t need—or want—the stress of a “boss b****” (his phrasing, not mine).


Wow what a winner your dad is.
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