Healthy school start time

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Anonymous wrote:Those phones you pay for—set screen time limits so their phone stops working at 10pm. Your kids will go to bed sooner, I promise. It works.

Here is that high and mighty "adult" who does not understand science. Plenty of kids do not have access to screens after a certain time and their parents know how to parent. Move on this discussion does not concern you.

This has nothing to do with science. You can always make up or find a study to support your beliefs. Stop inconviencing others because you cannot get your kids to bed on time or go private with a later start time.

You talk about sleep science the same way climate change deniers talk about climate change science.

One has nothing to do with the other. If your kid needs more sleep, put them to bed earlier and enforce bed time. It’s called parenting. Don't inconvenience the rest of us because you refuse.

Oh, it’s you. I remember you from the last time later start times were discussed on this board. How many children do you currently have in high school?

I have two in high school. They are in multiple activities and sports, some twice in an evening plus homework. How many do you have and are they in school and outside activities? If you pushed it back, all this would get pushed back so they'd just go to bed later. Some activities don't get out till 9:30 or later.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those phones you pay for—set screen time limits so their phone stops working at 10pm. Your kids will go to bed sooner, I promise. It works.

Here is that high and mighty "adult" who does not understand science. Plenty of kids do not have access to screens after a certain time and their parents know how to parent. Move on this discussion does not concern you.

This has nothing to do with science. You can always make up or find a study to support your beliefs. Stop inconviencing others because you cannot get your kids to bed on time or go private with a later start time.

You talk about sleep science the same way climate change deniers talk about climate change science.

One has nothing to do with the other. If your kid needs more sleep, put them to bed earlier and enforce bed time. It’s called parenting. Don't inconvenience the rest of us because you refuse.

Oh, it’s you. I remember you from the last time later start times were discussed on this board. How many children do you currently have in high school?

I have two in high school. They are in multiple activities and sports, some twice in an evening plus homework. How many do you have and are they in school and outside activities? If you pushed it back, all this would get pushed back so they'd just go to bed later. Some activities don't get out till 9:30 or later.

I also have two in high school with extracurriculars, one of them with a magnet commute.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those phones you pay for—set screen time limits so their phone stops working at 10pm. Your kids will go to bed sooner, I promise. It works.

Here is that high and mighty "adult" who does not understand science. Plenty of kids do not have access to screens after a certain time and their parents know how to parent. Move on this discussion does not concern you.

This has nothing to do with science. You can always make up or find a study to support your beliefs. Stop inconviencing others because you cannot get your kids to bed on time or go private with a later start time.

You talk about sleep science the same way climate change deniers talk about climate change science.

One has nothing to do with the other. If your kid needs more sleep, put them to bed earlier and enforce bed time. It’s called parenting. Don't inconvenience the rest of us because you refuse.

Oh, it’s you. I remember you from the last time later start times were discussed on this board. How many children do you currently have in high school?

I have two in high school. They are in multiple activities and sports, some twice in an evening plus homework. How many do you have and are they in school and outside activities? If you pushed it back, all this would get pushed back so they'd just go to bed later. Some activities don't get out till 9:30 or later.

I also have two in high school with extracurriculars, one of them with a magnet commute.

Ok, but then you'd know the issue as if you push everything back, they just go to bed later.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those phones you pay for—set screen time limits so their phone stops working at 10pm. Your kids will go to bed sooner, I promise. It works.

Here is that high and mighty "adult" who does not understand science. Plenty of kids do not have access to screens after a certain time and their parents know how to parent. Move on this discussion does not concern you.

This has nothing to do with science. You can always make up or find a study to support your beliefs. Stop inconviencing others because you cannot get your kids to bed on time or go private with a later start time.

You talk about sleep science the same way climate change deniers talk about climate change science.

One has nothing to do with the other. If your kid needs more sleep, put them to bed earlier and enforce bed time. It’s called parenting. Don't inconvenience the rest of us because you refuse.

Oh, it’s you. I remember you from the last time later start times were discussed on this board. How many children do you currently have in high school?

I have two in high school. They are in multiple activities and sports, some twice in an evening plus homework. How many do you have and are they in school and outside activities? If you pushed it back, all this would get pushed back so they'd just go to bed later. Some activities don't get out till 9:30 or later.

Your kids might have been "put to bed" but they are not actually going to be asleep. It's called science.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those phones you pay for—set screen time limits so their phone stops working at 10pm. Your kids will go to bed sooner, I promise. It works.

Here is that high and mighty "adult" who does not understand science. Plenty of kids do not have access to screens after a certain time and their parents know how to parent. Move on this discussion does not concern you.

This has nothing to do with science. You can always make up or find a study to support your beliefs. Stop inconviencing others because you cannot get your kids to bed on time or go private with a later start time.

You talk about sleep science the same way climate change deniers talk about climate change science.

One has nothing to do with the other. If your kid needs more sleep, put them to bed earlier and enforce bed time. It’s called parenting. Don't inconvenience the rest of us because you refuse.

Oh, it’s you. I remember you from the last time later start times were discussed on this board. How many children do you currently have in high school?

I have two in high school. They are in multiple activities and sports, some twice in an evening plus homework. How many do you have and are they in school and outside activities? If you pushed it back, all this would get pushed back so they'd just go to bed later. Some activities don't get out till 9:30 or later.

I also have two in high school with extracurriculars, one of them with a magnet commute.

Ok, but then you'd know the issue as if you push everything back, they just go to bed later.

It's Chris Cram posting up there again, huh? Highly doubt with a kid in MCPS. That PP only wrote "two in high school" (DC schools and possibly other districts start later).

[Anonymous]

The most problematic issue seems to be buses, since it's the same bus for elementary, middle, and high school.

Just switch out high school and elementary start times and leave middle as is. Those second and third graders are wired at 6:30 am. Whereas high school students are zombies at that time. Which is totally normal. I think we need to accommodate the natural biorhythms of children and adolescents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those phones you pay for—set screen time limits so their phone stops working at 10pm. Your kids will go to bed sooner, I promise. It works.

Here is that high and mighty "adult" who does not understand science. Plenty of kids do not have access to screens after a certain time and their parents know how to parent. Move on this discussion does not concern you.

This has nothing to do with science. You can always make up or find a study to support your beliefs. Stop inconviencing others because you cannot get your kids to bed on time or go private with a later start time.

You talk about sleep science the same way climate change deniers talk about climate change science.

One has nothing to do with the other. If your kid needs more sleep, put them to bed earlier and enforce bed time. It’s called parenting. Don't inconvenience the rest of us because you refuse.

Oh, it’s you. I remember you from the last time later start times were discussed on this board. How many children do you currently have in high school?

I have two in high school. They are in multiple activities and sports, some twice in an evening plus homework. How many do you have and are they in school and outside activities? If you pushed it back, all this would get pushed back so they'd just go to bed later. Some activities don't get out till 9:30 or later.

I also have two in high school with extracurriculars, one of them with a magnet commute.

Ok, but then you'd know the issue as if you push everything back, they just go to bed later.

It's Chris Cram posting up there again, huh? Highly doubt with a kid in MCPS. That PP only wrote "two in high school" (DC schools and possibly other districts start later).

Nope, they’re both in MCPS. I wouldn’t care about MCPS start times if they had no impact on us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those phones you pay for—set screen time limits so their phone stops working at 10pm. Your kids will go to bed sooner, I promise. It works.

Here is that high and mighty "adult" who does not understand science. Plenty of kids do not have access to screens after a certain time and their parents know how to parent. Move on this discussion does not concern you.

This has nothing to do with science. You can always make up or find a study to support your beliefs. Stop inconviencing others because you cannot get your kids to bed on time or go private with a later start time.

You talk about sleep science the same way climate change deniers talk about climate change science.

One has nothing to do with the other. If your kid needs more sleep, put them to bed earlier and enforce bed time. It’s called parenting. Don't inconvenience the rest of us because you refuse.

Oh, it’s you. I remember you from the last time later start times were discussed on this board. How many children do you currently have in high school?

I have two in high school. They are in multiple activities and sports, some twice in an evening plus homework. How many do you have and are they in school and outside activities? If you pushed it back, all this would get pushed back so they'd just go to bed later. Some activities don't get out till 9:30 or later.

I also have two in high school with extracurriculars, one of them with a magnet commute.

Ok, but then you'd know the issue as if you push everything back, they just go to bed later.

It's Chris Cram posting up there again, huh? Highly doubt with a kid in MCPS. That PP only wrote "two in high school" (DC schools and possibly other districts start later).

Nope, they’re both in MCPS. I wouldn’t care about MCPS start times if they had no impact on us.

So, it could still be Cram, spokesperson for mcps? PP - good for you that your two are almost on the way out from MCP HS and will not affect them before any changes to start time happens. You can sit this discussion out (and other posters pray you didn't procreate after the two in HS)!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those phones you pay for—set screen time limits so their phone stops working at 10pm. Your kids will go to bed sooner, I promise. It works.

Here is that high and mighty "adult" who does not understand science. Plenty of kids do not have access to screens after a certain time and their parents know how to parent. Move on this discussion does not concern you.

This has nothing to do with science. You can always make up or find a study to support your beliefs. Stop inconviencing others because you cannot get your kids to bed on time or go private with a later start time.

You talk about sleep science the same way climate change deniers talk about climate change science.

One has nothing to do with the other. If your kid needs more sleep, put them to bed earlier and enforce bed time. It’s called parenting. Don't inconvenience the rest of us because you refuse.

Oh, it’s you. I remember you from the last time later start times were discussed on this board. How many children do you currently have in high school?

I have two in high school. They are in multiple activities and sports, some twice in an evening plus homework. How many do you have and are they in school and outside activities? If you pushed it back, all this would get pushed back so they'd just go to bed later. Some activities don't get out till 9:30 or later.

I also have two in high school with extracurriculars, one of them with a magnet commute.

Ok, but then you'd know the issue as if you push everything back, they just go to bed later.

It's Chris Cram posting up there again, huh? Highly doubt with a kid in MCPS. That PP only wrote "two in high school" (DC schools and possibly other districts start later).

Nope, they’re both in MCPS. I wouldn’t care about MCPS start times if they had no impact on us.

So, it could still be Cram, spokesperson for mcps? PP - good for you that your two are almost on the way out from MCP HS and will not affect them before any changes to start time happens. You can sit this discussion out (and other posters pray you didn't procreate after the two in HS)!!

Some do not understand science. They refuse to because that would cause inconvenience for them that they can't drop off kid on way to work. Yes pray that poster has no younger kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those phones you pay for—set screen time limits so their phone stops working at 10pm. Your kids will go to bed sooner, I promise. It works.

Here is that high and mighty "adult" who does not understand science. Plenty of kids do not have access to screens after a certain time and their parents know how to parent. Move on this discussion does not concern you.

This has nothing to do with science. You can always make up or find a study to support your beliefs. Stop inconviencing others because you cannot get your kids to bed on time or go private with a later start time.

You talk about sleep science the same way climate change deniers talk about climate change science.

One has nothing to do with the other. If your kid needs more sleep, put them to bed earlier and enforce bed time. It’s called parenting. Don't inconvenience the rest of us because you refuse.

Oh, it’s you. I remember you from the last time later start times were discussed on this board. How many children do you currently have in high school?

I have two in high school. They are in multiple activities and sports, some twice in an evening plus homework. How many do you have and are they in school and outside activities? If you pushed it back, all this would get pushed back so they'd just go to bed later. Some activities don't get out till 9:30 or later.

Your kids might have been "put to bed" but they are not actually going to be asleep. It's called science.

If they get up at 5:30-6, full day at school, sport or activities, homework, shower by the time 10-11 comes around they are exhausted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those phones you pay for—set screen time limits so their phone stops working at 10pm. Your kids will go to bed sooner, I promise. It works.

Here is that high and mighty "adult" who does not understand science. Plenty of kids do not have access to screens after a certain time and their parents know how to parent. Move on this discussion does not concern you.

This has nothing to do with science. You can always make up or find a study to support your beliefs. Stop inconviencing others because you cannot get your kids to bed on time or go private with a later start time.

You talk about sleep science the same way climate change deniers talk about climate change science.

One has nothing to do with the other. If your kid needs more sleep, put them to bed earlier and enforce bed time. It’s called parenting. Don't inconvenience the rest of us because you refuse.

Oh, it’s you. I remember you from the last time later start times were discussed on this board. How many children do you currently have in high school?

I have two in high school. They are in multiple activities and sports, some twice in an evening plus homework. How many do you have and are they in school and outside activities? If you pushed it back, all this would get pushed back so they'd just go to bed later. Some activities don't get out till 9:30 or later.

I also have two in high school with extracurriculars, one of them with a magnet commute.

Ok, but then you'd know the issue as if you push everything back, they just go to bed later.

It's Chris Cram posting up there again, huh? Highly doubt with a kid in MCPS. That PP only wrote "two in high school" (DC schools and possibly other districts start later).

Nope, they’re both in MCPS. I wouldn’t care about MCPS start times if they had no impact on us.

So, it could still be Cram, spokesperson for mcps? PP - good for you that your two are almost on the way out from MCP HS and will not affect them before any changes to start time happens. You can sit this discussion out (and other posters pray you didn't procreate after the two in HS)!!

Some do not understand science. They refuse to because that would cause inconvenience for them that they can't drop off kid on way to work. Yes pray that poster has no younger kids.

This isn’t science. It would be medicine and your kids are napping or easy days if they get up early and stay up till midnight or later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The most problematic issue seems to be buses, since it's the same bus for elementary, middle, and high school.

Just switch out high school and elementary start times and leave middle as is. Those second and third graders are wired at 6:30 am. Whereas high school students are zombies at that time. Which is totally normal. I think we need to accommodate the natural biorhythms of children and adolescents.

This would be crazy. You don’t have hs students. What would happen is sports and activities would be before school and those before school would be earlier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The most problematic issue seems to be buses, since it's the same bus for elementary, middle, and high school.

Just switch out high school and elementary start times and leave middle as is. Those second and third graders are wired at 6:30 am. Whereas high school students are zombies at that time. Which is totally normal. I think we need to accommodate the natural biorhythms of children and adolescents.

This would be crazy. You don’t have hs students. What would happen is sports and activities would be before school and those before school would be earlier.

They’re optional. School isn’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The most problematic issue seems to be buses, since it's the same bus for elementary, middle, and high school.

Just switch out high school and elementary start times and leave middle as is. Those second and third graders are wired at 6:30 am. Whereas high school students are zombies at that time. Which is totally normal. I think we need to accommodate the natural biorhythms of children and adolescents.

This would be crazy. You don’t have hs students. What would happen is sports and activities would be before school and those before school would be earlier.

They’re optional. School isn’t.

So, you’d rather deny other kids activities and sports so your kids can go to bed later and sleep in as you refuse to parent. If they refuse to go to bed and are tired too bad. They can nap when they get home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The most problematic issue seems to be buses, since it's the same bus for elementary, middle, and high school.

Just switch out high school and elementary start times and leave middle as is. Those second and third graders are wired at 6:30 am. Whereas high school students are zombies at that time. Which is totally normal. I think we need to accommodate the natural biorhythms of children and adolescents.

This would be crazy. You don’t have hs students. What would happen is sports and activities would be before school and those before school would be earlier.

They’re optional. School isn’t.

So, you’d rather deny other kids activities and sports so your kids can go to bed later and sleep in as you refuse to parent. If they refuse to go to bed and are tired too bad. They can nap when they get home.

The majority of teens have trouble falling asleep with an early bedtime, have trouble functioning in the early morning, are at their sharpest later in the day. They aren’t getting adequate sleep with current school schedules.

School attendance is mandatory by law and provides the education which these kids will need to make a living and be productive members of society for most of the rest of their lives. It also serves to help young people understand the rights, privileges and obligations involved in being good citizens.

Therefore, it is common sense that we prioritize the education of the many over the extracurriculars of the few. Kids who can sleep whenever their parents tell them to or who really value their extracurricular activities will adjust their getting home an hour later, staying up an hour later, and sleeping in an hour later or having their activities in the morning or whatever adjustments are made.

You think it’s as simple as “putting” teenagers to bed at a set time. Great, since it’s so easy for you and your kids, you’ll have no trouble adjusting to what the majority needs.