Healthy school start time

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some of us don’t want that. Enforce bedtime. Starting later means kids go to bed later so it fixes nothing.

Some of us do want that because our kids cannot fall asleep 8 hours before they have to get up to be on a bus by 6:50, regardless of a bedtime. Bedtime just means electronics put away, lights out, kid in bed. It doesn’t mean kid is sleepy.

If they're not sleepy they're probably not getting enough physical activity or _are_ getting too much screen time, or both. Reduce the screens and enhance the exercise, and then see if they can get to bed.

Stop acting like there is something wrong with kids or their parents if teenagers aren't sleepy at 9:30 or 10pm. It is very biologically normal for them not to be, unfortunately.

If they are getting up early they should be tired by 10-11. It’s absurd to expect a schedule change for what. 60k or more students because you refuse to tell yours to go to bed.

Yes, being tired enough to sleep by 11 is more normal for a teen. Which would mean a 7am wake time for 8 hours of sleep, so catching the bus around 7:45 and starting school around 8:15.

On average, teens need 9-9.5 hours of sleep per night.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/teenagers-and-sleep-how-much-sleep-is-enough

My kid currently has to get on a magnet bus before 7 am. She’d have to be in bed by 9 pm or earlier to get enough sleep. That’s just not feasible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of us don’t want that. Enforce bedtime. Starting later means kids go to bed later so it fixes nothing.

Some of us do want that because our kids cannot fall asleep 8 hours before they have to get up to be on a bus by 6:50, regardless of a bedtime. Bedtime just means electronics put away, lights out, kid in bed. It doesn’t mean kid is sleepy.

If they're not sleepy they're probably not getting enough physical activity or _are_ getting too much screen time, or both. Reduce the screens and enhance the exercise, and then see if they can get to bed.

Stop acting like there is something wrong with kids or their parents if teenagers aren't sleepy at 9:30 or 10pm. It is very biologically normal for them not to be, unfortunately.

If they are getting up early they should be tired by 10-11. It’s absurd to expect a schedule change for what. 60k or more students because you refuse to tell yours to go to bed.

Yes, being tired enough to sleep by 11 is more normal for a teen. Which would mean a 7am wake time for 8 hours of sleep, so catching the bus around 7:45 and starting school around 8:15.

On average, teens need 9-9.5 hours of sleep per night.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/teenagers-and-sleep-how-much-sleep-is-enough

My kid currently has to get on a magnet bus before 7 am. She’d have to be in bed by 9 pm or earlier to get enough sleep. That’s just not feasible.

Then you drive her or she goes to her home school. That’s not reasonable to expect everyone to cater to the few magnet kids. Why don’t you drive her?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of us don’t want that. Enforce bedtime. Starting later means kids go to bed later so it fixes nothing.

Some of us do want that because our kids cannot fall asleep 8 hours before they have to get up to be on a bus by 6:50, regardless of a bedtime. Bedtime just means electronics put away, lights out, kid in bed. It doesn’t mean kid is sleepy.

If they're not sleepy they're probably not getting enough physical activity or _are_ getting too much screen time, or both. Reduce the screens and enhance the exercise, and then see if they can get to bed.

Stop acting like there is something wrong with kids or their parents if teenagers aren't sleepy at 9:30 or 10pm. It is very biologically normal for them not to be, unfortunately.

If they are getting up early they should be tired by 10-11. It’s absurd to expect a schedule change for what. 60k or more students because you refuse to tell yours to go to bed.

Yes, being tired enough to sleep by 11 is more normal for a teen. Which would mean a 7am wake time for 8 hours of sleep, so catching the bus around 7:45 and starting school around 8:15.

On average, teens need 9-9.5 hours of sleep per night.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/teenagers-and-sleep-how-much-sleep-is-enough

My kid currently has to get on a magnet bus before 7 am. She’d have to be in bed by 9 pm or earlier to get enough sleep. That’s just not feasible.

Then you drive her or she goes to her home school. That’s not reasonable to expect everyone to cater to the few magnet kids. Why don’t you drive her?

And it's not reasonable to expect there shouldn't be new bell times just to cater to the one or few who don't want new bell times.
-DP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t fight this battle here where people are ignorant of actual science and prefer to go on their own feelings, etc. Take it to Thomas Taylor with all the latest scientific evidence of teenager sleep requirements and patterns. Many states have followed the science and switched to later school times. MD is behind as usual

If your kids get up early, a full day of school, then activities and homework are exhausted.

New poster. I don’t disagree. However, schools and counties don’t have enough physical activities for all students. Or even afterschool activities.