Your prediction? Here come the USNWR updates

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Anonymous wrote:These loons are here to push a specific narrative- that the new TJ admissions process is rigged because of prep programs. It isn't.

There is no way to prep for the essay based entrance exam. You should know to write in complete sentences with proper grammar and punctuation. You should know to answer a question directly. You should know to pursue your interests to make yourself a well rounded person. These are things you learn in elementary and middle school. If your kid doesn't know, then they aren't TJ material. A short prep course isn't going to help your kid.

It isn't anymore but it was. The wealthy feeders dominated admissions even more largely because many students had early access to the entrance test. This is a matter of public record and been covered here many times.

This is obviously a lie

What is shameful is that the supporters of racial discrimination in TJ admissions let this lie persist even though they know it is not true.

This is how you know there is no such thing as "good" racism. The "good" racists don't engage in honest ways.

The "good racists" are getting the punishment they deserve and it is going to be a loooong 3 years 5 months of misery still to come.

Who cares about liberal tears, the kids are the ones that end up paying the price for the woke nonsense.
Just fix it. Go back to a merit based system.

Ya, we want merit like the good old days when people could buy the test answers!

buy the test from who? Name the fictional seller

It's well established that prep centers had compiled question banks of the test questions by debriefing students in violation of the NDA in order to rig the process.

um, by that twisted logic, the PP would falsely claim any SAT prep class is: “selling the answers to the SAT !!” - which everyone knows is a false claim.

The TJ test answers were never for sale, nor are the SAT answers. But there is some nasty troll here in the AAP forum who keeps repeating this false claim.

Watch: she will surely do it again in the next TJ thread.

DP. You sound so desperate try to convince the reader that TJ test answer were never for sale.
Majority people understand what it means by that, it is the TJ test prep.
It is what it is.

Wait. You are saying that TJ test prep = "TJ test answers were for sale" You think those two phrases are synonymous?

And you think the PP sounds desperate?

When you are sign up for $$ program so called TJ test prep, you would expect a program that “Prep” you to the test to TJ admission, nothing else.
The “preparation” off course 100% grind your kid to practice what the TJ test looks like, not something else, and off course they have the history of TJ test material, regardless how they obtained it. They modified the similar pattern of questions to practice. Buyer pay them for that, nothing else.
And that is how you sounds more desperate by making me say the detail.
Most reader here are aim for TJ, or TJ related, and they are intelligent enough to understand this petty matter.

Curie prep starts pretty early in elementary school. Is that all just TJ prep?

Why don't they do SHSAT like they used to. You could get prep books on Amazon and khan academy had YouTube courses. Why did they move to a secret test?

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Anonymous wrote:These loons are here to push a specific narrative- that the new TJ admissions process is rigged because of prep programs. It isn't.

There is no way to prep for the essay based entrance exam. You should know to write in complete sentences with proper grammar and punctuation. You should know to answer a question directly. You should know to pursue your interests to make yourself a well rounded person. These are things you learn in elementary and middle school. If your kid doesn't know, then they aren't TJ material. A short prep course isn't going to help your kid.

It isn't anymore but it was. The wealthy feeders dominated admissions even more largely because many students had early access to the entrance test. This is a matter of public record and been covered here many times.

This is obviously a lie

What is shameful is that the supporters of racial discrimination in TJ admissions let this lie persist even though they know it is not true.

This is how you know there is no such thing as "good" racism. The "good" racists don't engage in honest ways.

The "good racists" are getting the punishment they deserve and it is going to be a loooong 3 years 5 months of misery still to come.

Who cares about liberal tears, the kids are the ones that end up paying the price for the woke nonsense.
Just fix it. Go back to a merit based system.

Ya, we want merit like the good old days when people could buy the test answers!

buy the test from who? Name the fictional seller

It's well established that prep centers had compiled question banks of the test questions by debriefing students in violation of the NDA in order to rig the process.

Children cannot execute enforceable contracts in the U.S., so there is no NDA.

And that makes what the test prep centers did ok

what prep centers did is a fictional tale with no proof. Besides that what TJ should have done before and should do now is release all past year questions just like college board does for all AP exams. URMs and FARMS benefit the most, and all students who have interest in learning and prepping stem.

That might fix some of the income gap but it wasn't going to affect the race gap. You would just be replacing wealthy white and Asians with poor Asians. You would likely end up with even more Asians. This is not goal.

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Anonymous wrote:These loons are here to push a specific narrative- that the new TJ admissions process is rigged because of prep programs. It isn't.

There is no way to prep for the essay based entrance exam. You should know to write in complete sentences with proper grammar and punctuation. You should know to answer a question directly. You should know to pursue your interests to make yourself a well rounded person. These are things you learn in elementary and middle school. If your kid doesn't know, then they aren't TJ material. A short prep course isn't going to help your kid.

It isn't anymore but it was. The wealthy feeders dominated admissions even more largely because many students had early access to the entrance test. This is a matter of public record and been covered here many times.

This is obviously a lie

What is shameful is that the supporters of racial discrimination in TJ admissions let this lie persist even though they know it is not true.

This is how you know there is no such thing as "good" racism. The "good" racists don't engage in honest ways.

The "good racists" are getting the punishment they deserve and it is going to be a loooong 3 years 5 months of misery still to come.

Who cares about liberal tears, the kids are the ones that end up paying the price for the woke nonsense.
Just fix it. Go back to a merit based system.

Ya, we want merit like the good old days when people could buy the test answers!

buy the test from who? Name the fictional seller

It's well established that prep centers had compiled question banks of the test questions by debriefing students in violation of the NDA in order to rig the process.

Children cannot execute enforceable contracts in the U.S., so there is no NDA.

And that makes what the test prep centers did ok

It's certainly better than trying to bind minors to keeping a secret.

The secret to expensive prep is transparency. Reduce the barriers to prep, don't erect new more expensive barriers.

And like a PP started, it took less than a year for quant q test prep study aid to pop up on Amazon. Only a moron thinks secret testing would work.

And what was the economically disadvantaged population in the incoming class that first year of quant Q? 1.5%, virtually indistinguishable from what we got with the SHSAT.

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Anonymous wrote:These loons are here to push a specific narrative- that the new TJ admissions process is rigged because of prep programs. It isn't.

There is no way to prep for the essay based entrance exam. You should know to write in complete sentences with proper grammar and punctuation. You should know to answer a question directly. You should know to pursue your interests to make yourself a well rounded person. These are things you learn in elementary and middle school. If your kid doesn't know, then they aren't TJ material. A short prep course isn't going to help your kid.

It isn't anymore but it was. The wealthy feeders dominated admissions even more largely because many students had early access to the entrance test. This is a matter of public record and been covered here many times.

This is obviously a lie

What is shameful is that the supporters of racial discrimination in TJ admissions let this lie persist even though they know it is not true.

This is how you know there is no such thing as "good" racism. The "good" racists don't engage in honest ways.

The "good racists" are getting the punishment they deserve and it is going to be a loooong 3 years 5 months of misery still to come.

Who cares about liberal tears, the kids are the ones that end up paying the price for the woke nonsense.
Just fix it. Go back to a merit based system.

Ya, we want merit like the good old days when people could buy the test answers!

buy the test from who? Name the fictional seller

It's well established that prep centers had compiled question banks of the test questions by debriefing students in violation of the NDA in order to rig the process.

Children cannot execute enforceable contracts in the U.S., so there is no NDA.

And that makes what the test prep centers did ok

what prep centers did is a fictional tale with no proof. Besides that what TJ should have done before and should do now is release all past year questions just like college board does for all AP exams. URMs and FARMS benefit the most, and all students who have interest in learning and prepping stem.

I don't think that would have changed much. The problem was people engineering their kid's childhood and preparing extensively (for years, months) for the test specifically to get their kids into TJ. It was creating a dynamic where if you DIDN'T do that and just had a normal very smart and hard working (at school) kid, they didn't have much of a shot at making it in. That's what drove the reform.

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Anonymous wrote:These loons are here to push a specific narrative- that the new TJ admissions process is rigged because of prep programs. It isn't.

There is no way to prep for the essay based entrance exam. You should know to write in complete sentences with proper grammar and punctuation. You should know to answer a question directly. You should know to pursue your interests to make yourself a well rounded person. These are things you learn in elementary and middle school. If your kid doesn't know, then they aren't TJ material. A short prep course isn't going to help your kid.

It isn't anymore but it was. The wealthy feeders dominated admissions even more largely because many students had early access to the entrance test. This is a matter of public record and been covered here many times.

This is obviously a lie

What is shameful is that the supporters of racial discrimination in TJ admissions let this lie persist even though they know it is not true.

This is how you know there is no such thing as "good" racism. The "good" racists don't engage in honest ways.

The "good racists" are getting the punishment they deserve and it is going to be a loooong 3 years 5 months of misery still to come.

Who cares about liberal tears, the kids are the ones that end up paying the price for the woke nonsense.
Just fix it. Go back to a merit based system.

Ya, we want merit like the good old days when people could buy the test answers!

buy the test from who? Name the fictional seller

It's well established that prep centers had compiled question banks of the test questions by debriefing students in violation of the NDA in order to rig the process.

Children cannot execute enforceable contracts in the U.S., so there is no NDA.

And that makes what the test prep centers did ok

what prep centers did is a fictional tale with no proof. Besides that what TJ should have done before and should do now is release all past year questions just like college board does for all AP exams. URMs and FARMS benefit the most, and all students who have interest in learning and prepping stem.

I don't think that would have changed much. The problem was people engineering their kid's childhood and preparing extensively (for years, months) for the test specifically to get their kids into TJ. It was creating a dynamic where if you DIDN'T do that and just had a normal very smart and hard working (at school) kid, they didn't have much of a shot at making it in. That's what drove the reform.

That's some bull. Normal, very smart kids earn high standardized test scores without any prep. They also typically had very high grades, good achievements, and excellent teacher recommendations. Prep centers didn't change things for kids at the top of the heap. Mostly, they changed who was being admitted into the bottom half of TJ by letting less talented but highly prepped kids edge out the more talented but unprepped ones.

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Anonymous wrote:These loons are here to push a specific narrative- that the new TJ admissions process is rigged because of prep programs. It isn't.

There is no way to prep for the essay based entrance exam. You should know to write in complete sentences with proper grammar and punctuation. You should know to answer a question directly. You should know to pursue your interests to make yourself a well rounded person. These are things you learn in elementary and middle school. If your kid doesn't know, then they aren't TJ material. A short prep course isn't going to help your kid.

It isn't anymore but it was. The wealthy feeders dominated admissions even more largely because many students had early access to the entrance test. This is a matter of public record and been covered here many times.

This is obviously a lie

What is shameful is that the supporters of racial discrimination in TJ admissions let this lie persist even though they know it is not true.

This is how you know there is no such thing as "good" racism. The "good" racists don't engage in honest ways.

The "good racists" are getting the punishment they deserve and it is going to be a loooong 3 years 5 months of misery still to come.

Who cares about liberal tears, the kids are the ones that end up paying the price for the woke nonsense.
Just fix it. Go back to a merit based system.

Ya, we want merit like the good old days when people could buy the test answers!

buy the test from who? Name the fictional seller

It's well established that prep centers had compiled question banks of the test questions by debriefing students in violation of the NDA in order to rig the process.

Children cannot execute enforceable contracts in the U.S., so there is no NDA.

And that makes what the test prep centers did ok

what prep centers did is a fictional tale with no proof. Besides that what TJ should have done before and should do now is release all past year questions just like college board does for all AP exams. URMs and FARMS benefit the most, and all students who have interest in learning and prepping stem.

I don't think that would have changed much. The problem was people engineering their kid's childhood and preparing extensively (for years, months) for the test specifically to get their kids into TJ. It was creating a dynamic where if you DIDN'T do that and just had a normal very smart and hard working (at school) kid, they didn't have much of a shot at making it in. That's what drove the reform.

That's some bull. Normal, very smart kids earn high standardized test scores without any prep. They also typically had very high grades, good achievements, and excellent teacher recommendations. Prep centers didn't change things for kids at the top of the heap. Mostly, they changed who was being admitted into the bottom half of TJ by letting less talented but highly prepped kids edge out the more talented but unprepped ones.

But the more talented unprepped kids weren’t who got in with the recent change. The more talented unprepped kids aren’t URMs.

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Anonymous wrote:These loons are here to push a specific narrative- that the new TJ admissions process is rigged because of prep programs. It isn't.

There is no way to prep for the essay based entrance exam. You should know to write in complete sentences with proper grammar and punctuation. You should know to answer a question directly. You should know to pursue your interests to make yourself a well rounded person. These are things you learn in elementary and middle school. If your kid doesn't know, then they aren't TJ material. A short prep course isn't going to help your kid.

It isn't anymore but it was. The wealthy feeders dominated admissions even more largely because many students had early access to the entrance test. This is a matter of public record and been covered here many times.

This is obviously a lie

What is shameful is that the supporters of racial discrimination in TJ admissions let this lie persist even though they know it is not true.

This is how you know there is no such thing as "good" racism. The "good" racists don't engage in honest ways.

The "good racists" are getting the punishment they deserve and it is going to be a loooong 3 years 5 months of misery still to come.

Who cares about liberal tears, the kids are the ones that end up paying the price for the woke nonsense.
Just fix it. Go back to a merit based system.

Ya, we want merit like the good old days when people could buy the test answers!

buy the test from who? Name the fictional seller

It's well established that prep centers had compiled question banks of the test questions by debriefing students in violation of the NDA in order to rig the process.

um, by that twisted logic, the PP would falsely claim any SAT prep class is: “selling the answers to the SAT !!” - which everyone knows is a false claim.

The TJ test answers were never for sale, nor are the SAT answers. But there is some nasty troll here in the AAP forum who keeps repeating this false claim.

Watch: she will surely do it again in the next TJ thread.

DP. You sound so desperate try to convince the reader that TJ test answer were never for sale.
Majority people understand what it means by that, it is the TJ test prep.
It is what it is.

Wait. You are saying that TJ test prep = "TJ test answers were for sale" You think those two phrases are synonymous?

And you think the PP sounds desperate?

When you are sign up for $$ program so called TJ test prep, you would expect a program that “Prep” you to the test to TJ admission, nothing else.
The “preparation” off course 100% grind your kid to practice what the TJ test looks like, not something else, and off course they have the history of TJ test material, regardless how they obtained it. They modified the similar pattern of questions to practice. Buyer pay them for that, nothing else.
And that is how you sounds more desperate by making me say the detail.
Most reader here are aim for TJ, or TJ related, and they are intelligent enough to understand this petty matter.

Curie prep starts pretty early in elementary school. Is that all just TJ prep?

Why don't they do SHSAT like they used to. You could get prep books on Amazon and khan academy had YouTube courses. Why did they move to a secret test?

I guess if they were to use a standardized test that might make sense, but you can also argue that grades are the product of many many tests so to say they aren't using tests is misleading.

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Anonymous wrote:These loons are here to push a specific narrative- that the new TJ admissions process is rigged because of prep programs. It isn't.

There is no way to prep for the essay based entrance exam. You should know to write in complete sentences with proper grammar and punctuation. You should know to answer a question directly. You should know to pursue your interests to make yourself a well rounded person. These are things you learn in elementary and middle school. If your kid doesn't know, then they aren't TJ material. A short prep course isn't going to help your kid.

It isn't anymore but it was. The wealthy feeders dominated admissions even more largely because many students had early access to the entrance test. This is a matter of public record and been covered here many times.

This is obviously a lie

What is shameful is that the supporters of racial discrimination in TJ admissions let this lie persist even though they know it is not true.

This is how you know there is no such thing as "good" racism. The "good" racists don't engage in honest ways.

The "good racists" are getting the punishment they deserve and it is going to be a loooong 3 years 5 months of misery still to come.

Who cares about liberal tears, the kids are the ones that end up paying the price for the woke nonsense.
Just fix it. Go back to a merit based system.

Ya, we want merit like the good old days when people could buy the test answers!

buy the test from who? Name the fictional seller

It's well established that prep centers had compiled question banks of the test questions by debriefing students in violation of the NDA in order to rig the process.

Children cannot execute enforceable contracts in the U.S., so there is no NDA.

And that makes what the test prep centers did ok

what prep centers did is a fictional tale with no proof. Besides that what TJ should have done before and should do now is release all past year questions just like college board does for all AP exams. URMs and FARMS benefit the most, and all students who have interest in learning and prepping stem.

I don't think that would have changed much. The problem was people engineering their kid's childhood and preparing extensively (for years, months) for the test specifically to get their kids into TJ. It was creating a dynamic where if you DIDN'T do that and just had a normal very smart and hard working (at school) kid, they didn't have much of a shot at making it in. That's what drove the reform.

That's some bull. Normal, very smart kids earn high standardized test scores without any prep. They also typically had very high grades, good achievements, and excellent teacher recommendations. Prep centers didn't change things for kids at the top of the heap. Mostly, they changed who was being admitted into the bottom half of TJ by letting less talented but highly prepped kids edge out the more talented but unprepped ones.

Yes, and those smart kids with access to test prep did even better. It had become an arms race of who could afford the best prep. It was out of control and the kids are the main beneficiaries of the county ending this nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:These loons are here to push a specific narrative- that the new TJ admissions process is rigged because of prep programs. It isn't.

There is no way to prep for the essay based entrance exam. You should know to write in complete sentences with proper grammar and punctuation. You should know to answer a question directly. You should know to pursue your interests to make yourself a well rounded person. These are things you learn in elementary and middle school. If your kid doesn't know, then they aren't TJ material. A short prep course isn't going to help your kid.

It isn't anymore but it was. The wealthy feeders dominated admissions even more largely because many students had early access to the entrance test. This is a matter of public record and been covered here many times.

This is obviously a lie

What is shameful is that the supporters of racial discrimination in TJ admissions let this lie persist even though they know it is not true.

This is how you know there is no such thing as "good" racism. The "good" racists don't engage in honest ways.

The "good racists" are getting the punishment they deserve and it is going to be a loooong 3 years 5 months of misery still to come.

Who cares about liberal tears, the kids are the ones that end up paying the price for the woke nonsense.
Just fix it. Go back to a merit based system.

Ya, we want merit like the good old days when people could buy the test answers!

buy the test from who? Name the fictional seller

It's well established that prep centers had compiled question banks of the test questions by debriefing students in violation of the NDA in order to rig the process.

Children cannot execute enforceable contracts in the U.S., so there is no NDA.

And that makes what the test prep centers did ok

what prep centers did is a fictional tale with no proof. Besides that what TJ should have done before and should do now is release all past year questions just like college board does for all AP exams. URMs and FARMS benefit the most, and all students who have interest in learning and prepping stem.

That might fix some of the income gap but it wasn't going to affect the race gap. You would just be replacing wealthy white and Asians with poor Asians. You would likely end up with even more Asians. This is not goal.

I'm always amused by the people who keep trying to cover up that the cheating was rampant. Everyone knew this was going on. It wasn't a secret. It's been discussed to death here.

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Anonymous wrote:These loons are here to push a specific narrative- that the new TJ admissions process is rigged because of prep programs. It isn't.

There is no way to prep for the essay based entrance exam. You should know to write in complete sentences with proper grammar and punctuation. You should know to answer a question directly. You should know to pursue your interests to make yourself a well rounded person. These are things you learn in elementary and middle school. If your kid doesn't know, then they aren't TJ material. A short prep course isn't going to help your kid.

It isn't anymore but it was. The wealthy feeders dominated admissions even more largely because many students had early access to the entrance test. This is a matter of public record and been covered here many times.

This is obviously a lie

What is shameful is that the supporters of racial discrimination in TJ admissions let this lie persist even though they know it is not true.

This is how you know there is no such thing as "good" racism. The "good" racists don't engage in honest ways.

The "good racists" are getting the punishment they deserve and it is going to be a loooong 3 years 5 months of misery still to come.

Who cares about liberal tears, the kids are the ones that end up paying the price for the woke nonsense.
Just fix it. Go back to a merit based system.

Ya, we want merit like the good old days when people could buy the test answers!

buy the test from who? Name the fictional seller

It's well established that prep centers had compiled question banks of the test questions by debriefing students in violation of the NDA in order to rig the process.

um, by that twisted logic, the PP would falsely claim any SAT prep class is: “selling the answers to the SAT !!” - which everyone knows is a false claim.

The TJ test answers were never for sale, nor are the SAT answers. But there is some nasty troll here in the AAP forum who keeps repeating this false claim.

Watch: she will surely do it again in the next TJ thread.

DP. You sound so desperate try to convince the reader that TJ test answer were never for sale.
Majority people understand what it means by that, it is the TJ test prep.
It is what it is.

Wait. You are saying that TJ test prep = "TJ test answers were for sale" You think those two phrases are synonymous?

And you think the PP sounds desperate?

When you are sign up for $$ program so called TJ test prep, you would expect a program that “Prep” you to the test to TJ admission, nothing else.
The “preparation” off course 100% grind your kid to practice what the TJ test looks like, not something else, and off course they have the history of TJ test material, regardless how they obtained it. They modified the similar pattern of questions to practice. Buyer pay them for that, nothing else.
And that is how you sounds more desperate by making me say the detail.
Most reader here are aim for TJ, or TJ related, and they are intelligent enough to understand this petty matter.

Curie prep starts pretty early in elementary school. Is that all just TJ prep?

Why don't they do SHSAT like they used to. You could get prep books on Amazon and khan academy had YouTube courses. Why did they move to a secret test?

I’m sure some parents start that early. They also rent homes in feeder school districts and hire consultants to determine the best activities for a strong application.

Wealthy, motivated parents do all kinds of things to get a leg up for their kid in competitive admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:These loons are here to push a specific narrative- that the new TJ admissions process is rigged because of prep programs. It isn't.

There is no way to prep for the essay based entrance exam. You should know to write in complete sentences with proper grammar and punctuation. You should know to answer a question directly. You should know to pursue your interests to make yourself a well rounded person. These are things you learn in elementary and middle school. If your kid doesn't know, then they aren't TJ material. A short prep course isn't going to help your kid.

It isn't anymore but it was. The wealthy feeders dominated admissions even more largely because many students had early access to the entrance test. This is a matter of public record and been covered here many times.

This is obviously a lie

What is shameful is that the supporters of racial discrimination in TJ admissions let this lie persist even though they know it is not true.

This is how you know there is no such thing as "good" racism. The "good" racists don't engage in honest ways.

The "good racists" are getting the punishment they deserve and it is going to be a loooong 3 years 5 months of misery still to come.

Who cares about liberal tears, the kids are the ones that end up paying the price for the woke nonsense.
Just fix it. Go back to a merit based system.

Ya, we want merit like the good old days when people could buy the test answers!

buy the test from who? Name the fictional seller

It's well established that prep centers had compiled question banks of the test questions by debriefing students in violation of the NDA in order to rig the process.

Children cannot execute enforceable contracts in the U.S., so there is no NDA.

And that makes what the test prep centers did ok

what prep centers did is a fictional tale with no proof. Besides that what TJ should have done before and should do now is release all past year questions just like college board does for all AP exams. URMs and FARMS benefit the most, and all students who have interest in learning and prepping stem.

I don't think that would have changed much. The problem was people engineering their kid's childhood and preparing extensively (for years, months) for the test specifically to get their kids into TJ. It was creating a dynamic where if you DIDN'T do that and just had a normal very smart and hard working (at school) kid, they didn't have much of a shot at making it in. That's what drove the reform.

+1

They have been trying for years to level the playing field.

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Anonymous wrote:These loons are here to push a specific narrative- that the new TJ admissions process is rigged because of prep programs. It isn't.

There is no way to prep for the essay based entrance exam. You should know to write in complete sentences with proper grammar and punctuation. You should know to answer a question directly. You should know to pursue your interests to make yourself a well rounded person. These are things you learn in elementary and middle school. If your kid doesn't know, then they aren't TJ material. A short prep course isn't going to help your kid.

It isn't anymore but it was. The wealthy feeders dominated admissions even more largely because many students had early access to the entrance test. This is a matter of public record and been covered here many times.

This is obviously a lie

What is shameful is that the supporters of racial discrimination in TJ admissions let this lie persist even though they know it is not true.

This is how you know there is no such thing as "good" racism. The "good" racists don't engage in honest ways.

The "good racists" are getting the punishment they deserve and it is going to be a loooong 3 years 5 months of misery still to come.

Who cares about liberal tears, the kids are the ones that end up paying the price for the woke nonsense.
Just fix it. Go back to a merit based system.

Ya, we want merit like the good old days when people could buy the test answers!

buy the test from who? Name the fictional seller

It's well established that prep centers had compiled question banks of the test questions by debriefing students in violation of the NDA in order to rig the process.

Children cannot execute enforceable contracts in the U.S., so there is no NDA.

And that makes what the test prep centers did ok

It's certainly better than trying to bind minors to keeping a secret.

The secret to expensive prep is transparency. Reduce the barriers to prep, don't erect new more expensive barriers.

And like a PP started, it took less than a year for quant q test prep study aid to pop up on Amazon. Only a moron thinks secret testing would work.

And what was the economically disadvantaged population in the incoming class that first year of quant Q? 1.5%, virtually indistinguishable from what we got with the SHSAT.

Yup. Only wealthy kids had a shot.

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Anonymous wrote:These loons are here to push a specific narrative- that the new TJ admissions process is rigged because of prep programs. It isn't.

There is no way to prep for the essay based entrance exam. You should know to write in complete sentences with proper grammar and punctuation. You should know to answer a question directly. You should know to pursue your interests to make yourself a well rounded person. These are things you learn in elementary and middle school. If your kid doesn't know, then they aren't TJ material. A short prep course isn't going to help your kid.

It isn't anymore but it was. The wealthy feeders dominated admissions even more largely because many students had early access to the entrance test. This is a matter of public record and been covered here many times.

This is obviously a lie

What is shameful is that the supporters of racial discrimination in TJ admissions let this lie persist even though they know it is not true.

This is how you know there is no such thing as "good" racism. The "good" racists don't engage in honest ways.

The "good racists" are getting the punishment they deserve and it is going to be a loooong 3 years 5 months of misery still to come.

Who cares about liberal tears, the kids are the ones that end up paying the price for the woke nonsense.
Just fix it. Go back to a merit based system.

Ya, we want merit like the good old days when people could buy the test answers!

buy the test from who? Name the fictional seller

It's well established that prep centers had compiled question banks of the test questions by debriefing students in violation of the NDA in order to rig the process.

Children cannot execute enforceable contracts in the U.S., so there is no NDA.

And that makes what the test prep centers did ok

what prep centers did is a fictional tale with no proof. Besides that what TJ should have done before and should do now is release all past year questions just like college board does for all AP exams. URMs and FARMS benefit the most, and all students who have interest in learning and prepping stem.

That might fix some of the income gap but it wasn't going to affect the race gap. You would just be replacing wealthy white and Asians with poor Asians. You would likely end up with even more Asians. This is not goal.

HHI is a big factor for DEI.

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Anonymous wrote:These loons are here to push a specific narrative- that the new TJ admissions process is rigged because of prep programs. It isn't.

There is no way to prep for the essay based entrance exam. You should know to write in complete sentences with proper grammar and punctuation. You should know to answer a question directly. You should know to pursue your interests to make yourself a well rounded person. These are things you learn in elementary and middle school. If your kid doesn't know, then they aren't TJ material. A short prep course isn't going to help your kid.

It isn't anymore but it was. The wealthy feeders dominated admissions even more largely because many students had early access to the entrance test. This is a matter of public record and been covered here many times.

This is obviously a lie

What is shameful is that the supporters of racial discrimination in TJ admissions let this lie persist even though they know it is not true.

This is how you know there is no such thing as "good" racism. The "good" racists don't engage in honest ways.

The "good racists" are getting the punishment they deserve and it is going to be a loooong 3 years 5 months of misery still to come.

Who cares about liberal tears, the kids are the ones that end up paying the price for the woke nonsense.
Just fix it. Go back to a merit based system.

Ya, we want merit like the good old days when people could buy the test answers!

buy the test from who? Name the fictional seller

It's well established that prep centers had compiled question banks of the test questions by debriefing students in violation of the NDA in order to rig the process.

Children cannot execute enforceable contracts in the U.S., so there is no NDA.

And that makes what the test prep centers did ok

It's certainly better than trying to bind minors to keeping a secret.

The secret to expensive prep is transparency. Reduce the barriers to prep, don't erect new more expensive barriers.

And like a PP started, it took less than a year for quant q test prep study aid to pop up on Amazon. Only a moron thinks secret testing would work.

And what was the economically disadvantaged population in the incoming class that first year of quant Q? 1.5%, virtually indistinguishable from what we got with the SHSAT.

Yup. Only wealthy kids had a shot.

Yep. Now only wealthy kids and poor kids get in. Hard working middle class kids who don’t spend tons of money on prep but absolutely outscore their URM counterparts have been skipped because FARMs students get application welfare points for a variety of experience “factors.” The middle always gets squeezed in these pseudo class struggles.

The reality is that URMs have never been able to close the gap between their peers, rich or otherwise. Even controlling for income, standardized tests reveal a painful truth for these DEI-advocates. So instead, they focus on welfare and tearing down the reputations of the top performers as cheaters and “wealthy.” Why cant they bring these scores up? ever?

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Anonymous wrote:These loons are here to push a specific narrative- that the new TJ admissions process is rigged because of prep programs. It isn't.

There is no way to prep for the essay based entrance exam. You should know to write in complete sentences with proper grammar and punctuation. You should know to answer a question directly. You should know to pursue your interests to make yourself a well rounded person. These are things you learn in elementary and middle school. If your kid doesn't know, then they aren't TJ material. A short prep course isn't going to help your kid.

It isn't anymore but it was. The wealthy feeders dominated admissions even more largely because many students had early access to the entrance test. This is a matter of public record and been covered here many times.

This is obviously a lie

What is shameful is that the supporters of racial discrimination in TJ admissions let this lie persist even though they know it is not true.

This is how you know there is no such thing as "good" racism. The "good" racists don't engage in honest ways.

The "good racists" are getting the punishment they deserve and it is going to be a loooong 3 years 5 months of misery still to come.

Who cares about liberal tears, the kids are the ones that end up paying the price for the woke nonsense.
Just fix it. Go back to a merit based system.

Ya, we want merit like the good old days when people could buy the test answers!

buy the test from who? Name the fictional seller

It's well established that prep centers had compiled question banks of the test questions by debriefing students in violation of the NDA in order to rig the process.

Children cannot execute enforceable contracts in the U.S., so there is no NDA.

And that makes what the test prep centers did ok

what prep centers did is a fictional tale with no proof. Besides that what TJ should have done before and should do now is release all past year questions just like college board does for all AP exams. URMs and FARMS benefit the most, and all students who have interest in learning and prepping stem.

I don't think that would have changed much. The problem was people engineering their kid's childhood and preparing extensively (for years, months) for the test specifically to get their kids into TJ. It was creating a dynamic where if you DIDN'T do that and just had a normal very smart and hard working (at school) kid, they didn't have much of a shot at making it in. That's what drove the reform.

That's some bull. Normal, very smart kids earn high standardized test scores without any prep. They also typically had very high grades, good achievements, and excellent teacher recommendations. Prep centers didn't change things for kids at the top of the heap. Mostly, they changed who was being admitted into the bottom half of TJ by letting less talented but highly prepped kids edge out the more talented but unprepped ones.

Yes, and those smart kids with access to test prep did even better. It had become an arms race of who could afford the best prep. It was out of control and the kids are the main beneficiaries of the county ending this nonsense.

Nope. The top merit half of TJ is the same now as before change. Lot of changes in bottom half though.