WWYD? Family history event vs. intense 10th grade classes

[Anonymous]

What work do you do that you’ve had work visas for two decades? I thought they were supposed to be for a term.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What work do you do that you’ve had work visas for two decades? I thought they were supposed to be for a term.

OP here. Scientific research. And no, people can be on visas all their lives, they just need to provide documentation that satisfies the terms of that particular visa, whenever they're up for renewal. There are hoops to jump through, of course, and money to pay. Generally the visa sponsor hires the attorney.

[Anonymous]

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OP here.

Both my kids are US citizens. My husband and I are waiting on our green card application and cannot leave the US until it's approved or denied. My kids are free to travel abroad.

Interesting about the jet lag: you think she's less likely to suffer from it with a shorter trip? It's true the event is on a weekend, so she could, in theory, miss less school. I was just thinking it would be even more tiring, but maybe not?

So you have a college aged son that is a U.S. citizen, and somehow you and spouse don’t even have green cards yet? Something doesn’t add up

+1. Huh?

OP here. My husband and I have been living in the US for decades on a series of work visas and our kids were born here. We have only recently started the process of getting green cards and possibly, down the road, US citizenship. In the past, this did not seem important to us. We are citizens of a European country, and were not in any rush to add another citizenship. We could not predict how dire the political situation was going to become.

We know a lot of international families on visas in our same situation, coming from first-world countries and in no rush to become US citizens. Everyone could move about freely on their visas without fear of detention or deportation.
Previously none of this mattered until this administration made it a point of contention.

So you’ve lived here decades and have a kid at least 20 born here, and it just recently occurred to you maybe you should get a green card. Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems odd that neither you and your husband can’t make something so important but you want to send your busy high schooler. Plus it sounds like she’s not that keen anyway. Let her stay home. The other adult going can record the ceremony to share with the family.

I find this odd too. I'd facilitate her going, but also your own.

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Anonymous wrote:What work do you do that you’ve had work visas for two decades? I thought they were supposed to be for a term.

OP here. Scientific research. And no, people can be on visas all their lives, they just need to provide documentation that satisfies the terms of that particular visa, whenever they're up for renewal. There are hoops to jump through, of course, and money to pay. Generally the visa sponsor hires the attorney.

My son has high school friends with similar family situations—parents on green cards/visas and kids born here and those families are terrified that they are all going to be deported over a past paper work mistake or speeding ticket or something else minor. No one is leaving the country because they might not ever get back in.

Meanwhile, OP is like “la-Dee-dah I’m just worried about my daughter’s math test…oohhh or jet lag…”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What work do you do that you’ve had work visas for two decades? I thought they were supposed to be for a term.

OP here. Scientific research. And no, people can be on visas all their lives, they just need to provide documentation that satisfies the terms of that particular visa, whenever they're up for renewal. There are hoops to jump through, of course, and money to pay. Generally the visa sponsor hires the attorney.

My son has high school friends with similar family situations—parents on green cards/visas and kids born here and those families are terrified that they are all going to be deported over a past paper work mistake or speeding ticket or something else minor. No one is leaving the country because they might not ever get back in.

Meanwhile, OP is like “la-Dee-dah I’m just worried about my daughter’s math test…oohhh or jet lag…”

Because US citizens cannot be deported, duh.

[Anonymous]

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OP here.

Both my kids are US citizens. My husband and I are waiting on our green card application and cannot leave the US until it's approved or denied. My kids are free to travel abroad.

Interesting about the jet lag: you think she's less likely to suffer from it with a shorter trip? It's true the event is on a weekend, so she could, in theory, miss less school. I was just thinking it would be even more tiring, but maybe not?

So you have a college aged son that is a U.S. citizen, and somehow you and spouse don’t even have green cards yet? Something doesn’t add up

+1. Huh?

OP here. My husband and I have been living in the US for decades on a series of work visas and our kids were born here. We have only recently started the process of getting green cards and possibly, down the road, US citizenship. In the past, this did not seem important to us. We are citizens of a European country, and were not in any rush to add another citizenship. We could not predict how dire the political situation was going to become.

We know a lot of international families on visas in our same situation, coming from first-world countries and in no rush to become US citizens. Everyone could move about freely on their visas without fear of detention or deportation.
Previously none of this mattered until this administration made it a point of contention.

So you’ve lived here decades and have a kid at least 20 born here, and it just recently occurred to you maybe you should get a green card. Wow.

NP. Why should they get a green card if they weren’t interested in citizenship? Not everyone wants to be a US citizen and until Trump there was no reason to get a green card if you were on a long-term visa. No additional benefits and sometimes a loss of benefits in your home country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

OP here.

Both my kids are US citizens. My husband and I are waiting on our green card application and cannot leave the US until it's approved or denied. My kids are free to travel abroad.

Interesting about the jet lag: you think she's less likely to suffer from it with a shorter trip? It's true the event is on a weekend, so she could, in theory, miss less school. I was just thinking it would be even more tiring, but maybe not?

So you have a college aged son that is a U.S. citizen, and somehow you and spouse don’t even have green cards yet? Something doesn’t add up

+1. Huh?

OP here. My husband and I have been living in the US for decades on a series of work visas and our kids were born here. We have only recently started the process of getting green cards and possibly, down the road, US citizenship. In the past, this did not seem important to us. We are citizens of a European country, and were not in any rush to add another citizenship. We could not predict how dire the political situation was going to become.

We know a lot of international families on visas in our same situation, coming from first-world countries and in no rush to become US citizens. Everyone could move about freely on their visas without fear of detention or deportation.
Previously none of this mattered until this administration made it a point of contention.

So you’ve lived here decades and have a kid at least 20 born here, and it just recently occurred to you maybe you should get a green card. Wow.

Let’s not pile on OP. It sounds like the parents didn’t do anything wrong. Stick to the topic. I’m from an immigrant family, all here legally and one set of grandparents never became US citizens. They didn’t see a point. They were here legally and renewed paperwork as needed to stay until they died.

But as I said before, as also having a teen, this might not be as important to your daughter as you so just leave it up to her to decide.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

OP here.

Both my kids are US citizens. My husband and I are waiting on our green card application and cannot leave the US until it's approved or denied. My kids are free to travel abroad.

Interesting about the jet lag: you think she's less likely to suffer from it with a shorter trip? It's true the event is on a weekend, so she could, in theory, miss less school. I was just thinking it would be even more tiring, but maybe not?

So you have a college aged son that is a U.S. citizen, and somehow you and spouse don’t even have green cards yet? Something doesn’t add up

+1. Huh?

OP here. My husband and I have been living in the US for decades on a series of work visas and our kids were born here. We have only recently started the process of getting green cards and possibly, down the road, US citizenship. In the past, this did not seem important to us. We are citizens of a European country, and were not in any rush to add another citizenship. We could not predict how dire the political situation was going to become.

We know a lot of international families on visas in our same situation, coming from first-world countries and in no rush to become US citizens. Everyone could move about freely on their visas without fear of detention or deportation.
Previously none of this mattered until this administration made it a point of contention.

So you’ve lived here decades and have a kid at least 20 born here, and it just recently occurred to you maybe you should get a green card. Wow.

NP. Why should they get a green card if they weren’t interested in citizenship? Not everyone wants to be a US citizen and until Trump there was no reason to get a green card if you were on a long-term visa. No additional benefits and sometimes a loss of benefits in your home country.

A green card is lawful permanent residency- which would be the intelligent thing to do if you plan to stay here decades and raise your kids here. Getting a green card doesn’t obligate you to become a citizen.

[Anonymous]

Right now I don't think I would send a young teenager out of the country unaccompanied, particularly if non white.

[Anonymous]

I would do it if she’s otherwise a good students and organized. Many things are available on line and the understanding teachers will give her the assignments ahead of time. She can get a lot of work done on the flight and can set aside a couple hours a day to stay on top of assignments. Even for things like math, she can do the online than academy lessons for the sections she missed to stay on top of it. I wouldn’t do it with my 11th grader because he would not actually do any of that and would be bad about making up missed tests. But for my oldest (now in college) I would have been pretty confident that she would absolutely stay on top of everything. She missed a lot of days because she did National competitions in a particular activity and she never had a problem making it up.

I’m also super curious what the event is but I’m sure OP doesn’t want to pry.

Also get her global entry on her passport — it is sooooo easy getting back into the country with global entry. We basically walked through without stopping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What work do you do that you’ve had work visas for two decades? I thought they were supposed to be for a term.

OP here. Scientific research. And no, people can be on visas all their lives, they just need to provide documentation that satisfies the terms of that particular visa, whenever they're up for renewal. There are hoops to jump through, of course, and money to pay. Generally the visa sponsor hires the attorney.

My son has high school friends with similar family situations—parents on green cards/visas and kids born here and those families are terrified that they are all going to be deported over a past paper work mistake or speeding ticket or something else minor. No one is leaving the country because they might not ever get back in.

Meanwhile, OP is like “la-Dee-dah I’m just worried about my daughter’s math test…oohhh or jet lag…”

Because US citizens cannot be deported, duh.

Try again.

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't send her. That's a lot of school to miss. But more importantly, it's crazy to me you would send her when you yourself can't leave the country. What if she gets sick and is in the hospital or something else happens to her there? You can't go get her!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

OP here.

Both my kids are US citizens. My husband and I are waiting on our green card application and cannot leave the US until it's approved or denied. My kids are free to travel abroad.

Interesting about the jet lag: you think she's less likely to suffer from it with a shorter trip? It's true the event is on a weekend, so she could, in theory, miss less school. I was just thinking it would be even more tiring, but maybe not?

So you have a college aged son that is a U.S. citizen, and somehow you and spouse don’t even have green cards yet? Something doesn’t add up

+1. Huh?

OP here. My husband and I have been living in the US for decades on a series of work visas and our kids were born here. We have only recently started the process of getting green cards and possibly, down the road, US citizenship. In the past, this did not seem important to us. We are citizens of a European country, and were not in any rush to add another citizenship. We could not predict how dire the political situation was going to become.

We know a lot of international families on visas in our same situation, coming from first-world countries and in no rush to become US citizens. Everyone could move about freely on their visas without fear of detention or deportation.
Previously none of this mattered until this administration made it a point of contention.

So you’ve lived here decades and have a kid at least 20 born here, and it just recently occurred to you maybe you should get a green card. Wow.

People talking advantage of the system. Your children should not be citizens op. I

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seems odd that neither you and your husband can’t make something so important but you want to send your busy high schooler. Plus it sounds like she’s not that keen anyway. Let her stay home. The other adult going can record the ceremony to share with the family.

OP here. Not odd - we're applying for our green card and are not allowed to leave the US while it's processing. Otherwise I'd go!

No your kinds education is more important

This is ridiculous to send her in tenth grade
Also given the current administration this is just stupid

Her parents are not citizens she must be Russian for you to think this us ok