NVSL All-stars

[Anonymous]

Thank you, Pinterest for hosting! I hope your neighbors thought of the spectators were respectful guests to the neighborhood so you can host again.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD swam Divisionals at Cardinal Hill last year. She swam All Stars at Pinecrest the very next week and dropped over a half a second. Lots of kids get best times. It’s less about the pool and more about the competition. But if you don’t want to go, don’t go. There are plenty of other kids who want to be there and would be happy to take your place.

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But the people who complain still go. Why? Because it is clearly special and important to their kids.

It’s a weird humble brag. Like oh sure my kid always makes ias and we can’t decide if we can be bothered to attend. Yes there is definitely a set of kids who always makes it. It’s probably not as special for them. But for the kids on the bubble who make it a couple times in their swim career it’s really super exciting. The swim times don’t really matter. It’s all about the experience.

I think you mistook my post. It was not at all a brag, humble or otherwise. There are posters who say things like "The water will be hot, the pool will be slow, it’s not very deep, and the weather is almost always hot. It’s terrible! Rarely do people swim their best times, or at least in my family. Divisionals is the way to end the season."

Then poster I responded to said "But if you don’t want to go, don’t go. There are plenty of other kids who want to be there and would be happy to take your place"

and I agreed adding that most of the complainers will also still go because while the pooh pooh it, for most kids including those of the complainers, whether they make it 1 year or every year they still enjoy.

My kids have made it for a number of years now and we go so that they are happy. Me, the PP, and dozens of other parents still have the right to think it is pretty awful. Because in reality it is.

Sitting in weather of 100 degrees on the parking lots, fields, etc is also borderline unsafe for not only the swimmers but the parents and volunteers. There is a better way to do this and it does not include putting people’s health at risk. Then if there are storms you get to potentially relive the fun from ASR.

What’s your better way?

[Anonymous]

Today just confirmed my opinion that divisionals should be held during the week and all stars the Saturday immediately after(I.e. last week). It’s just one too many Saturdays out in the heat. Most of the kids on our team seemed to go slower than divisionals. There’s so much buildup and excitement leading up to divisionals, and the team party, and then they are just done. Maybe it’s different for the older kids who have more experience managing themselves at big meets, and rivalries from years of swimming together. But for 12 and under, I think it’s just a week too long for a lot of kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Today just confirmed my opinion that divisionals should be held during the week and all stars the Saturday immediately after(I.e. last week). It’s just one too many Saturdays out in the heat. Most of the kids on our team seemed to go slower than divisionals. There’s so much buildup and excitement leading up to divisionals, and the team party, and then they are just done. Maybe it’s different for the older kids who have more experience managing themselves at big meets, and rivalries from years of swimming together. But for 12 and under, I think it’s just a week too long for a lot of kids.

Where was your divisionals- some pools are well known for being fast and you csn compare the kids’ times there to at other meets and it is shocking the difference. Example: Check out the Cardinal Hill swimmers’ times from last week compared to their times today. The places where divisionals takes place gives many kids a huge advantage that they don’t really deserve.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Today just confirmed my opinion that divisionals should be held during the week and all stars the Saturday immediately after(I.e. last week). It’s just one too many Saturdays out in the heat. Most of the kids on our team seemed to go slower than divisionals. There’s so much buildup and excitement leading up to divisionals, and the team party, and then they are just done. Maybe it’s different for the older kids who have more experience managing themselves at big meets, and rivalries from years of swimming together. But for 12 and under, I think it’s just a week too long for a lot of kids.

Since there are many divisionals swimmers (and parents) than all-stars', divisionals should be held on Saturday morning, and all-stars be held on weekday of the week after.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Today just confirmed my opinion that divisionals should be held during the week and all stars the Saturday immediately after(I.e. last week). It’s just one too many Saturdays out in the heat. Most of the kids on our team seemed to go slower than divisionals. There’s so much buildup and excitement leading up to divisionals, and the team party, and then they are just done. Maybe it’s different for the older kids who have more experience managing themselves at big meets, and rivalries from years of swimming together. But for 12 and under, I think it’s just a week too long for a lot of kids.

Seriously? How on earth would 17 pools hold divisionals, a 5+ hr meet during the week? Seriously there is no way they would be able to pull that off. Parents have to work.

[Anonymous]

Thank you Pinecrest. You did a great job. Team rep viewing was good and shaded. There were technical difficulties but that happens and everyone worked around it. It isn't my favorite meet of the year, but it went as smoothly as could be expected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you Pinecrest. You did a great job. Team rep viewing was good and shaded. There were technical difficulties but that happens and everyone worked around it. It isn't my favorite meet of the year, but it went as smoothly as could be expected.

Absolutely agree. Pinecrest did a great job. Of the various all star and all star relay events I have been to, this has been among the best handled.

[Anonymous]

Do people not understand the profound accomplishment of All Stars? There are thousands of kids in each age group across the league and only the top 18 qualify. This league is one of if not the fastest summer leagues in the USA, so the qualifying swimmers should feel immensely proud of that accomplishment.

It's summer swim, meets are going to be hot. That's part of it.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks. I heard sirens on the livestream and realized they were likely coming to the pool. Hope that swimmer is ok.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know why they paused the meet for 5 minutes before girls 15-18 IM?

I think the ambulance and the fire rescue team needed some time to get the injured swimmer up and out.

Me too. I felt so bad for her. Sounds like she dislocated her knee right before her race. Imagine waiting all that time to swim and then right before your race that happens

The injury occurred after her race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ And let’s not mention the unsafe diving conditions at Pinecrest too!

Well Pinecrest is passing the torch for next year. So can’t wait for all the pools with safe diving conditions (and enough field space)(and enough deck space)(and enough parking space)(and a fast pool)(and enough volunteers who haven’t already left for summer vacations) to step up!

[Anonymous]

Thank you, Pinecrest! We were very impressed with how well-organized everything was!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do people not understand the profound accomplishment of All Stars? There are thousands of kids in each age group across the league and only the top 18 qualify. This league is one of if not the fastest summer leagues in the USA, so the qualifying swimmers should feel immensely proud of that accomplishment.

It's summer swim, meets are going to be hot. That's part of it.

So many 13+ kids at least don’t even participate though. I would think this if all the top swimmers participated. I think it would have more meaning to just award the best times of the season somehow. It is an accomplishment to be one of the fastest kids in NVSL.

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Anonymous wrote:^ And let’s not mention the unsafe diving conditions at Pinecrest too!

Well Pinecrest is passing the torch for next year. So can’t wait for all the pools with safe diving conditions (and enough field space)(and enough deck space)(and enough parking space)(and a fast pool)(and enough volunteers who haven’t already left for summer vacations) to step up!

NP: I can appreciate how there was plenty of space and it was well run and they stepped up. That doesn’t change the fact that it is too shallow of a pool for hundreds and hundreds of swimmers to be diving in. If Aunt Mary offers to host Tgiving when no one else offered - and serves improperly refrigerated turkey bc she doesn’t have a working fridge - and no one gets sick, it does not mean the turkey wasn’t a safety issue and doesn’t mean people can’t complain.

The diving depth is a safety issue. I still appreciate Pinecrest stepping up, but this doesn’t negate the previous sentence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do people not understand the profound accomplishment of All Stars? There are thousands of kids in each age group across the league and only the top 18 qualify. This league is one of if not the fastest summer leagues in the USA, so the qualifying swimmers should feel immensely proud of that accomplishment.

It's summer swim, meets are going to be hot. That's part of it.

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