NVSL All-stars

[Anonymous]

Pp here. Obviously this year we are going. I’m just saying next year may skip it.

[Anonymous]

You should totally skip it. It’s even worse than ASR. Kid can still say they made All Stars without actually suffering through the meet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This meet is so overrated. I can’t believe people skip or delay summer vacations.

Completely agree. The water will be hot, the pool will be slow, it’s not very deep, and the weather is almost always hot.

It’s terrible! Rarely do people swim their best times, or at least in my family. Divisionals is the way to end the season.

Correct. IAS is overrated. Unless it is held at Cardinal Hill or Tuckahoe, rarely are people getting best times. It’s mostly for the younger kids so they can put a patch on their swim bag.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You should totally skip it. It’s even worse than ASR. Kid can still say they made All Stars without actually suffering through the meet.

Funny I feel the opposite. I actually prefer IAS to ASR. Sure kids don't get best times but they get to swim against others in the league and oftentimes their friends form club who are on different summer teams. My kids have also made friend through kids they meet at all stars. I also like that they do a nice awards ceremony right after the event and get a nice photo.

[Anonymous]

My DD swam Divisionals at Cardinal Hill last year. She swam All Stars at Pinecrest the very next week and dropped over a half a second. Lots of kids get best times. It’s less about the pool and more about the competition. But if you don’t want to go, don’t go. There are plenty of other kids who want to be there and would be happy to take your place.

[Anonymous]

Good luck to all the All Stars tomorrow!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:also NVSL moves a week later next year. All stars will be so late, as will divisionals. Thanks FCPS!

I just looked up the calendar. Why did NVSL move later? Time trials not until 6/13 and IAS on 8/1. Ugh.

Maybe because last day of school will be 6/17 for some county like Fcps?

APS had last day of school in this timeframe last year. We had first saturday meet before school ended. Which isn't a big deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DD swam Divisionals at Cardinal Hill last year. She swam All Stars at Pinecrest the very next week and dropped over a half a second. Lots of kids get best times. It’s less about the pool and more about the competition. But if you don’t want to go, don’t go. There are plenty of other kids who want to be there and would be happy to take your place.

+1

But the people who complain still go. Why? Because it is clearly special and important to their kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD swam Divisionals at Cardinal Hill last year. She swam All Stars at Pinecrest the very next week and dropped over a half a second. Lots of kids get best times. It’s less about the pool and more about the competition. But if you don’t want to go, don’t go. There are plenty of other kids who want to be there and would be happy to take your place.

+1

But the people who complain still go. Why? Because it is clearly special and important to their kids.

It’s a weird humble brag. Like oh sure my kid always makes ias and we can’t decide if we can be bothered to attend. Yes there is definitely a set of kids who always makes it. It’s probably not as special for them. But for the kids on the bubble who make it a couple times in their swim career it’s really super exciting. The swim times don’t really matter. It’s all about the experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This meet is so overrated. I can’t believe people skip or delay summer vacations.

Completely agree. The water will be hot, the pool will be slow, it’s not very deep, and the weather is almost always hot.

It’s terrible! Rarely do people swim their best times, or at least in my family. Divisionals is the way to end the season.

I have been thinking this week about how all stars feels so anticlimactic. The whole vibe of summer swim changes when the practices are just the small group of kids doing all stars. All the kids look like they are just kind of over it.

Where I grew up, the qualifier meets were held during the week leading up to the All-Star meet that Saturday. So the team banquet was always the night after the All-Star meet and then everyone was done. It feels weird to have an extra week of practice after a team banquet. And it drags the season out unnecessarily. It feels like there is all this momentum leading up to divisionals and then it just kind of deflates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD swam Divisionals at Cardinal Hill last year. She swam All Stars at Pinecrest the very next week and dropped over a half a second. Lots of kids get best times. It’s less about the pool and more about the competition. But if you don’t want to go, don’t go. There are plenty of other kids who want to be there and would be happy to take your place.

+1

But the people who complain still go. Why? Because it is clearly special and important to their kids.

It’s a weird humble brag. Like oh sure my kid always makes ias and we can’t decide if we can be bothered to attend. Yes there is definitely a set of kids who always makes it. It’s probably not as special for them. But for the kids on the bubble who make it a couple times in their swim career it’s really super exciting. The swim times don’t really matter. It’s all about the experience.

I think you mistook my post. It was not at all a brag, humble or otherwise. There are posters who say things like "The water will be hot, the pool will be slow, it’s not very deep, and the weather is almost always hot. It’s terrible! Rarely do people swim their best times, or at least in my family. Divisionals is the way to end the season."

Then poster I responded to said "But if you don’t want to go, don’t go. There are plenty of other kids who want to be there and would be happy to take your place"

and I agreed adding that most of the complainers will also still go because while the pooh pooh it, for most kids including those of the complainers, whether they make it 1 year or every year they still enjoy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a Thai place, sushi place, Lucia’s, Glory Days, and Bobby’s Bagels within walking distance. We like the pizza at Lucia’s a they have gelato. The Thai place is solid, we have not tried the new sushi place. Glory Days is Glory Days. There is also a Starbucks. Some good options for a nice meal in the AC and then walk over to the Giant to refill on cold drinks.

The sushi place is great!

[Anonymous]

I agree, PP. I wish IAS was Sunday after Divisionals. So Divisionals was prelims and IAS was finals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree, PP. I wish IAS was Sunday after Divisionals. So Divisionals was prelims and IAS was finals.

Love this idea!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD swam Divisionals at Cardinal Hill last year. She swam All Stars at Pinecrest the very next week and dropped over a half a second. Lots of kids get best times. It’s less about the pool and more about the competition. But if you don’t want to go, don’t go. There are plenty of other kids who want to be there and would be happy to take your place.

+1

But the people who complain still go. Why? Because it is clearly special and important to their kids.

It’s a weird humble brag. Like oh sure my kid always makes ias and we can’t decide if we can be bothered to attend. Yes there is definitely a set of kids who always makes it. It’s probably not as special for them. But for the kids on the bubble who make it a couple times in their swim career it’s really super exciting. The swim times don’t really matter. It’s all about the experience.

I think you mistook my post. It was not at all a brag, humble or otherwise. There are posters who say things like "The water will be hot, the pool will be slow, it’s not very deep, and the weather is almost always hot. It’s terrible! Rarely do people swim their best times, or at least in my family. Divisionals is the way to end the season."

Then poster I responded to said "But if you don’t want to go, don’t go. There are plenty of other kids who want to be there and would be happy to take your place"

and I agreed adding that most of the complainers will also still go because while the pooh pooh it, for most kids including those of the complainers, whether they make it 1 year or every year they still enjoy.

My kids have made it for a number of years now and we go so that they are happy. Me, the PP, and dozens of other parents still have the right to think it is pretty awful. Because in reality it is.

Sitting in weather of 100 degrees on the parking lots, fields, etc is also borderline unsafe for not only the swimmers but the parents and volunteers. There is a better way to do this and it does not include putting people’s health at risk. Then if there are storms you get to potentially relive the fun from ASR.