Do you consider people from Spain to be Latinos?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm French. Many people near the Mediterranean, whether it's southern France, or Spain, Italy, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, etc, have a Moorish background (originally from Mauritania).

Europeans and northern Africans have no concept of "Latino". It's "Mediterranean".

The American notion of "Latino" is firmly rooted in Latin America, which is a hodge-podge of Spaniards, Portuguese, other Europeans, as well as different native Americans, the Caribbean and also Asians, mostly from South Asia but also East Asia!

So... Latino applies to Spain in term of language. But geographic origin? Definitely not. Genes? Definitely not.

Who gives a shit if your French or what Europeans think. Spaniards are not Latinos even if you're from Mars.

If they live in Latin American and trace their ancestry to Spain, they are both Spanish and Latino.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are they included in the group? Why or why not?

(Discussed this w/ friends last weekend and did not all agree)

We don't call ourselves "Latinos" to begin with, since that's purely a white-PC racist term. Only certain Americans call themselves or others that.

Rant over.

Tell that to the millions of people in Latin America who do, in fact, call themselves Latinos.

[Anonymous]

Spainish call themselves Spanards. Latin Americans call themselve Latinos, or what ever their country names are.

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Anonymous wrote:Husband (born and raised in Spain) and wife (born and raised in Italy) move to Argentina after getting married. They have a kid two years later.

Is the kid who was born in Argentina "Latino"? Why or why not?

Anyone born and raised in Argentina is Latino. Full stop.

I mean my white American mom was born and grew up partially in Peru (granddad's job) but I don't think we qualify as Latino.

Heck my Grandma was born and raised in Venezuela, and has indigenous and Spanish ancestry, but she never considered herself Hispanic. I think she basically thought of herself as white.

Hispanic does not exclude white. I am all three: Hispanic, white, and latina. This is the thing that Americans will never understand about a good portion of South Americans. The fact that I tan easily does not make me a person of color or a brown person. I am white, full stop (as everyone is saying). White does not only refer to people of caucasian descent. Somehow Americans can understand that the United States is a melting pot of immigrants yet fail to realize that much of South America is the same. People crossed the same ocean, they just landed farther south.

[Anonymous]

So someone who's ethnically Asian or white but born in South America is "Latino"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So someone who's ethnically Asian or white but born in South America is "Latino"?

Yes, the culture consumes you regardless of the genetics. You will have a better taste in food and music and usually a better dancer, its inevitable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So someone who's ethnically Asian or white but born in South America is "Latino"?

Sigh. Latinos aren't a race. They can be of any race. So if a couple of Asians move to South America and have and raise a kid there, and the kid speaks Spanish, then yes the kid is Latino.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Spain is not in Latin America. Check a map.

No OP. This.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So someone who's ethnically Asian or white but born in South America is "Latino"?

Sigh. Latinos aren't a race. They can be of any race. So if a couple of Asians move to South America and have and raise a kid there, and the kid speaks Spanish, then yes the kid is Latino.

What if they move to the US immediately after the kid is born? Is the kid still Latino simply by virtue of having been born in South America? Just trying to figure out if you consider the term binary or a spectrum. Like is it only about place of birth, or is being raised in South America (and speaking Spanish or Portuguese) required too?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So someone who's ethnically Asian or white but born in South America is "Latino"?

Sigh. Latinos aren't a race. They can be of any race. So if a couple of Asians move to South America and have and raise a kid there, and the kid speaks Spanish, then yes the kid is Latino.

What if they move to the US immediately after the kid is born? Is the kid still Latino simply by virtue of having been born in South America? Just trying to figure out if you consider the term binary or a spectrum. Like is it only about place of birth, or is being raised in South America (and speaking Spanish or Portuguese) required too?

Now you're just being silly.

[Anonymous]

Am I? Just trying to understand if it's more a geographic or cultural term.

[Anonymous]

Latino is from Latin America. Spain, no. People descended from Spaniards who live in Latin America, yes.
Hispanic may be from Hispania so Spain may count. I am half Spanish. I agonized over checking the box at work. I decided no. But I do for medical stuff because it can matter.

[Anonymous]

And people are out there trying to insist public schools are great. This is inane.

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Anonymous wrote:Husband (born and raised in Spain) and wife (born and raised in Italy) move to Argentina after getting married. They have a kid two years later.

Is the kid who was born in Argentina "Latino"? Why or why not?

Anyone born and raised in Argentina is Latino. Full stop.

I mean my white American mom was born and grew up partially in Peru (granddad's job) but I don't think we qualify as Latino.

Heck my Grandma was born and raised in Venezuela, and has indigenous and Spanish ancestry, but she never considered herself Hispanic. I think she basically thought of herself as white.

Hispanic does not exclude white. I am all three: Hispanic, white, and latina. This is the thing that Americans will never understand about a good portion of South Americans. The fact that I tan easily does not make me a person of color or a brown person. I am white, full stop (as everyone is saying). White does not only refer to people of caucasian descent. Somehow Americans can understand that the United States is a melting pot of immigrants yet fail to realize that much of South America is the same. People crossed the same ocean, they just landed farther south.

+1

[Anonymous]

The word “from” is complicated for those who moved countries during elementary school years or much earlier. Like are you “from” the country of birth, or where you spent the most time growing up?