Do you consider people from Spain to be Latinos?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm French. Many people near the Mediterranean, whether it's southern France, or Spain, Italy, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, etc, have a Moorish background (originally from Mauritania).

Europeans and northern Africans have no concept of "Latino". It's "Mediterranean".

The American notion of "Latino" is firmly rooted in Latin America, which is a hodge-podge of Spaniards, Portuguese, other Europeans, as well as different native Americans, the Caribbean and also Asians, mostly from South Asia but also East Asia!

So... Latino applies to Spain in term of language. But geographic origin? Definitely not. Genes? Definitely not.

Who gives a shit if your French or what Europeans think. Spaniards are not Latinos even if you're from Mars.

Latino has nothing to do with language, good grief. If you're conflating "Latino" with language, the language you're looking for is Latin and no one speaks it anymore.

[Anonymous]

They are only considered Latino when filling out their US college applications

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Husband (born and raised in Spain) and wife (born and raised in Italy) move to Argentina after getting married. They have a kid two years later.

Is the kid who was born in Argentina "Latino"? Why or why not?

ha- you are describing one of my friends, she was definably "latina' on her college apps!! but she walks the walk and is works in legal aid for Latinas in California now so I guess it is is ok but watching her explain how her dad who went to NYU and worked at the IMF was denied the same opportunities so she wasn't "cheating" and should get a leg up on white applicants as opposed to my asian friend who's dad worked in a literal canning factory and was obviously penalized for applying as asian was something!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm French. Many people near the Mediterranean, whether it's southern France, or Spain, Italy, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, etc, have a Moorish background (originally from Mauritania).

Europeans and northern Africans have no concept of "Latino". It's "Mediterranean".

The American notion of "Latino" is firmly rooted in Latin America, which is a hodge-podge of Spaniards, Portuguese, other Europeans, as well as different native Americans, the Caribbean and also Asians, mostly from South Asia but also East Asia!

So... Latino applies to Spain in term of language. But geographic origin? Definitely not. Genes? Definitely not.

Who gives a shit if your French or what Europeans think. Spaniards are not Latinos even if you're from Mars.

Now I see why French people avoid Americans. It is as if Americans behave as if wearing a necklace of dog turds around the neck.

There's a French poster on DCUM who has to begin every post by telling everyone they're French.

They're a reason why other Europeans avoid the French.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spain is not in Latin America. Check a map.

+1. They are not Latinos. They are Hispanic.

Close. They are not Latinos. They are not Hispanic (Hispaniola).

They are Spanish!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Husband (born and raised in Spain) and wife (born and raised in Italy) move to Argentina after getting married. They have a kid two years later.

Is the kid who was born in Argentina "Latino"? Why or why not?

Anyone born and raised in Argentina is Latino. Full stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spain is not in Latin America. Check a map.

+1. They are not Latinos. They are Hispanic.

Close. They are not Latinos. They are not Hispanic (Hispaniola).

They are Spanish!

They are Hispanic. The OG Hispanics.

[Anonymous]

Uh no. That's just factually incorrect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Husband (born and raised in Spain) and wife (born and raised in Italy) move to Argentina after getting married. They have a kid two years later.

Is the kid who was born in Argentina "Latino"? Why or why not?

Anyone born and raised in Argentina is Latino. Full stop.

I mean my white American mom was born and grew up partially in Peru (granddad's job) but I don't think we qualify as Latino.

[Anonymous]

Spanish people are not latinos, but South Americans are not either. They (we) are Latin Americans. Latinx is a category used only in the context of migration to the USA and points to cultural hybridization between Central/South America and North America. For example: I am South American, as my whole family is. That we have circumstantially lived in the US for a couple of years does not change our identity. So in a form I would mark Hispanic, but not Latinx, as opposed to my friend whose mother is Mexican and his father Colombian, but was born and raised in the USA. She marks latinx.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm French. Many people near the Mediterranean, whether it's southern France, or Spain, Italy, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, etc, have a Moorish background (originally from Mauritania).

Europeans and northern Africans have no concept of "Latino". It's "Mediterranean".

The American notion of "Latino" is firmly rooted in Latin America, which is a hodge-podge of Spaniards, Portuguese, other Europeans, as well as different native Americans, the Caribbean and also Asians, mostly from South Asia but also East Asia!

So... Latino applies to Spain in term of language. But geographic origin? Definitely not. Genes? Definitely not.

Who gives a shit if your French or what Europeans think. Spaniards are not Latinos even if you're from Mars.

Now I see why French people avoid Americans. It is as if Americans behave as if wearing a necklace of dog turds around the neck.

There's a French poster on DCUM who has to begin every post by telling everyone they're French.
They're a reason why other Europeans avoid the French.

I'm the French person from upthread. There are several French posters on DCUM. It's reasonable to say we're from that country, or from the EU, when the matters pertains to Europe. When I've identified as European, I've been excoriated as a snob. Actually, I have lived in the UK, Germany and France, so I do have more of a European identity than someone who has never left France, for example. To the earlier poster who knows a Spaniard who calls themselves European, maybe they've lived in several EU countries. It's getting more and more common, since all EU citizens can live and work anywhere in the EU.

Finally, I've been on DCUM for 15 years, and have noticed particular ire directed towards the French, with references to surrender monkeys, accusations of being a snob, etc. Maybe don't lay out your prejudices for all to see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm French. Many people near the Mediterranean, whether it's southern France, or Spain, Italy, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, etc, have a Moorish background (originally from Mauritania).

Europeans and northern Africans have no concept of "Latino". It's "Mediterranean".

The American notion of "Latino" is firmly rooted in Latin America, which is a hodge-podge of Spaniards, Portuguese, other Europeans, as well as different native Americans, the Caribbean and also Asians, mostly from South Asia but also East Asia!

So... Latino applies to Spain in term of language. But geographic origin? Definitely not. Genes? Definitely not.

Who gives a shit if your French or what Europeans think. Spaniards are not Latinos even if you're from Mars.

Now I see why French people avoid Americans. It is as if Americans behave as if wearing a necklace of dog turds around the neck.

There's a French poster on DCUM who has to begin every post by telling everyone they're French.
They're a reason why other Europeans avoid the French.

I'm the French person from upthread. There are several French posters on DCUM. It's reasonable to say we're from that country, or from the EU, when the matters pertains to Europe. When I've identified as European, I've been excoriated as a snob. Actually, I have lived in the UK, Germany and France, so I do have more of a European identity than someone who has never left France, for example. To the earlier poster who knows a Spaniard who calls themselves European, maybe they've lived in several EU countries. It's getting more and more common, since all EU citizens can live and work anywhere in the EU.

Finally, I've been on DCUM for 15 years, and have noticed particular ire directed towards the French, with references to surrender monkeys, accusations of being a snob, etc. Maybe don't lay out your prejudices for all to see.

Except this matter does not pertain to Europe. It’s certainly does not pertain to France. It pertains to Spain specifically. And you are not Spanish. No one asked what the French think of the Spanish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Spanish people are not latinos, but South Americans are not either. They (we) are Latin Americans. Latinx is a category used only in the context of migration to the USA and points to cultural hybridization between Central/South America and North America. For example: I am South American, as my whole family is. That we have circumstantially lived in the US for a couple of years does not change our identity. So in a form I would mark Hispanic, but not Latinx, as opposed to my friend whose mother is Mexican and his father Colombian, but was born and raised in the USA. She marks latinx.

It’s not that clear cut. I have spent a lot of time in Latin America, both central and south, and the locals universally refer to themselves as Latinos

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Husband (born and raised in Spain) and wife (born and raised in Italy) move to Argentina after getting married. They have a kid two years later.

Is the kid who was born in Argentina "Latino"? Why or why not?

Anyone born and raised in Argentina is Latino. Full stop.

I mean my white American mom was born and grew up partially in Peru (granddad's job) but I don't think we qualify as Latino.

Well you certainly don’t unless your mom married one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spain is not in Latin America. Check a map.

+1. They are not Latinos. They are Hispanic.

This. I consider them Hispanic.