At what point do men have the upper hand in the dating market?

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Anonymous wrote:I think that once you’re in the retirement home men can have the upper hand in dating. Because of women’s longer lifespan, there’s usually a shortage of men. Guys who are still able to walk on their own, known as “walkers” seem to do very well.

This was one reason my mother refused to move into one. Who needs competition from a bunch of merry widows in your 80s?

^^ With my dad. He still was active in every way. 😉

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Anonymous wrote:Meh, as the old hack goes, nice guys finish last. I saw it with my brother and his friends. Couple of them were very good looking, and very nice. Couple of them are wealthy today in middle age. When they were young and nice, the women weren't interested.

In my experience lots of “nice” guys who complain about being single think they deserve the beautiful princess and have their own unreasonable standards.

Don't be so sexist. Same goes for women.

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Anonymous wrote:At what point do men have the upper hand in the dating market? It seems to me that when women want to date there is no shortage of men for them. Men can't say the same thing. So at what point do men have the upper hand? Perhaps it's never

When they start acting like men again instead of simps/wimps?

What?!? You actually WANT toxic masculinity to reemerge?

With a vengeance. Men in this country are often way to weak acting. Only about 10% I've encountered, from areas all over the country, are actually manly acting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Based on the above:

Women dominate from ages 18–30 due to peak fertility and cultural desirability norms.

Men gain the upper hand from 35–55, when their income and perceived maturity outweigh reduced physical peak.

By 60+, both genders face reduced “market power,” but men still retain a slight edge in dating supply-demand due to longevity and societal acceptance of older men dating younger women.

Succinctly summarized. Like it.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe OP should have asked something like "when does the median man have the upper hand over the median woman in the dating market?"

Some responses have gotten at that question, more or less. But others are are offering up responses saying "outliers always have the upper hand!"

Women clearly have the upper hand in their 20s. I'd say men clearly have the upper hand by their 60s. Between 30s-50s, I guess I don't know where I'd place the tipping point.

But if you are a woman in your 20s and you want marriage, kids, and long term stability, you have very little power and men have ALL the power there. Men think women withhold sex in order to gain power and that can be true, but men withhold commitment in order to get power far more often. Talk to heterosexual women in their 20s who want relationships and ask them how that's going.

That's because many women in their 20s are clueless and not dating older men in their 40s who are ready for commitment and families.

Men in their 20s are still like kids maturity wise, and even in their early 30s they often are not emotionally mature enough to be good husbands and fathers.

Men age slower physically sure. They also mature mentally/emotionally more slowly as well.

Girls dream of marriage and kids as kids themselves. Boys dream of other things until they are well into adulthood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meh, as the old hack goes, nice guys finish last. I saw it with my brother and his friends. Couple of them were very good looking, and very nice. Couple of them are wealthy today in middle age. When they were young and nice, the women weren't interested.

Women DO have an affinity to be attracted to bad boys and danger.

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Anonymous wrote:Handsome men have an upper hand whatever age, just like beautiful women. Men statistically don't have the longevity women do so they have the upper hand in senior social situations.

After 30, men in general have the upper hand.
Now if the man is very short (under 5’7) or the woman truly beautiful, then things are different.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Meh, as the old hack goes, nice guys finish last. I saw it with my brother and his friends. Couple of them were very good looking, and very nice. Couple of them are wealthy today in middle age. When they were young and nice, the women weren't interested.

Women DO have an affinity to be attracted to bad boys and danger.

Until we're ready for marriage, then we want kind, handsome, family-oriented men with big paychecks.

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Women DO have an affinity to be attracted to bad boys and danger.

Until we're ready for marriage, then we want kind, handsome, family-oriented men with big paychecks.

And this is different for men, how? Men have an affinity for "fun" girls before shopping for a mate. And most of us were lucky enough to avoid knocking up that fun girl.

C'mon, my brothers. You know what I mean. That girl in college who was cool with doing it while her roommate watched? Who made a tape of the two of you going at it, and told you (years after you stopped seeing her) that she still had it and plays it every now and then?

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Dear Penthouse,

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Men have upper hand in matchmaker world of Arabs, Jews, Indians etc, more so with American passport, college degree and a decent job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At what point do men have the upper hand in the dating market? It seems to me that when women want to date there is no shortage of men for them. Men can't say the same thing. So at what point do men have the upper hand? Perhaps it's never

When they start acting like men again instead of simps/wimps?

This. When you're a rugged cowboy who opens doors and treats women with class you have the upper hand. If you know how to wear a suit and read a good book you have the upper hand. When you know how to tend to period cramps and make dinner you have the upper hand. I'm not saying you need to do all these things but you better do some of them. The same goes for women on knowing how to treat men. We all want respect. Treat someone right and want to make their life better.

Exactly! Masculinity and femininity need to make a comeback. Mutual respect at each other's role in the relationship also.

Many immigrants still have these traditional ideals and can provide some good examples to the out of touch younger Americans.

Oh yes, who isn't longing for the life of an immigrant with stereotypical traditional gender role values? You can't beat the kids back with a stick.

[Anonymous]

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Women DO have an affinity to be attracted to bad boys and danger.

Until we're ready for marriage, then we want kind, handsome, family-oriented men with big paychecks.

And this is different for men, how? Men have an affinity for "fun" girls before shopping for a mate. And most of us were lucky enough to avoid knocking up that fun girl.

C'mon, my brothers. You know what I mean. That girl in college who was cool with doing it while her roommate watched? Who made a tape of the two of you going at it, and told you (years after you stopped seeing her) that she still had it and plays it every now and then?

It wasn’t luck; that woman was probably on the pill or used a morning-after pill or had an abortion, all of which are in danger thanks to Trump and his Republican Congress and Supreme Court. We have reliable DNA testing now which is going to identify all your “brothers” and hold you accountable for those babies or aborted fetuses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Masculinity and femininity need to make a comeback. Mutual respect at each other's role in the relationship also.

Many immigrants still have these traditional ideals and can provide some good examples to the out of touch younger Americans.

Let me guess, you also support dowries and spousal rape? If not, why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe OP should have asked something like "when does the median man have the upper hand over the median woman in the dating market?"

Some responses have gotten at that question, more or less. But others are are offering up responses saying "outliers always have the upper hand!"

Women clearly have the upper hand in their 20s. I'd say men clearly have the upper hand by their 60s. Between 30s-50s, I guess I don't know where I'd place the tipping point.

But if you are a woman in your 20s and you want marriage, kids, and long term stability, you have very little power and men have ALL the power there. Men think women withhold sex in order to gain power and that can be true, but men withhold commitment in order to get power far more often. Talk to heterosexual women in their 20s who want relationships and ask them how that's going.

That's because many women in their 20s are clueless and not dating older men in their 40s who are ready for commitment and families.

Men in their 20s are still like kids maturity wise, and even in their early 30s they often are not emotionally mature enough to be good husbands and fathers.

Men age slower physically sure. They also mature mentally/emotionally more slowly as well.

Girls dream of marriage and kids as kids themselves. Boys dream of other things until they are well into adulthood.

Don’t full yourself: maybe men mature slower than women but they age just the same if not worse. Percentage of overweight males in 40s age group is 10% higher than 40s women.
Women in their 20s are not clueless: the 40s men simply are not existent for them as sexual beings