Scott Wolf (Party of Five) and wife Kelley are divorcing

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Anonymous wrote:She went public first with nice comments about him as a person and father and how she tried rooted in hope, patience and care of their children.

He then came out with his own statement to let it be known that he was the one that filed for divorce (strange)—-

Not sure why he went public to let people know he filed, not her.

That was the first clue he is a malignant covert narcissist. Narcs like him always have to “win”. His statement versus hers gave it all away. She was above board and hopeful, he had to let the world know 1) his decision 2) “he tried” but she was flawed.

This is a woman who was probably cheated on, emotional and psychologically abused, gaslit to the point of breakdown. She probably tried to save their marriage for years before he did the final narcissist “discard”. Her self esteem and metal health are completely shattered. Ask me how I know. Praying for peace for Kelly.

Based on her posting from a bar post discharge it seems like she is either manic or borderline, does not take her meds, and
likes to drink. That's a lethal combination. I would last about two weeks with someone like that so I applaud him for lasting 20 years. She posted crazy crap and tagged A bunch of actors and a few presidents. She seems unstable and grandiose. If you have ever tried having a conversation with a person who has delusions of grandiosity you know how frustrating it is. He is right to leave her and take the kids.

If that’s true, which I don’t believe it even remotely is, not even close, then he should be standing beside her and getting her help. She is totally having a meltdown but it’s not because of meds or drinking. It’s from abuse. Even when she was in the Real Workd house, filed 24-7, she was the one who didn’t drink, didn’t sleep around, literally the most boring character to the point I wondered why they even cast her. Bipolar and Biorderljne personality disorders are psinfully onvious by late teens and early 20’s. She displayed NONE of that.

This is a classic case of Scott employing DARVO after years if Narc abuse and she feels helpless and lost. I wish SHE had left him 20 years ago. I hope she can afford Laura Wassar and cleans him out. Agree with PP he is narc with insufferable little man syndrome.

Not always. My MIL had her first manic episode at age 70! Was classic mania. Never a hint of even regular depression prior.

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Based on her IG… She was clearly starting to lose it as early as January when she makes the post about her kid being in the hospital/leaving the other one home and passive aggressively mentions Scott is promoting a new show for Fox. Seems like she had to handle a lot on the home front and was starting to snap; though they have sufficient money that it seems odd she didn’t have more help at least (leaving a sick 12 year old home alone, if that’s literally true?).

Then something happened April. I’m guessing Scott cheated based on what she starts posting (betrayal, etc) & her parents seemingly come to town to support her in early June (which fits in with the Billy Bush comments) probably in advance of the divorce announcement. There are a lot of very weird posts (including one of her holding up a bag in front of her and filming while driving) in June. I think she’s having some kind of psych episode by that point.

The deluge of stories over the last few days tagging random famous people is way over the top. Mania for sure.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on her IG… She was clearly starting to lose it as early as January when she makes the post about her kid being in the hospital/leaving the other one home and passive aggressively mentions Scott is promoting a new show for Fox. Seems like she had to handle a lot on the home front and was starting to snap; though they have sufficient money that it seems odd she didn’t have more help at least (leaving a sick 12 year old home alone, if that’s literally true?).

Then something happened April. I’m guessing Scott cheated based on what she starts posting (betrayal, etc) & her parents seemingly come to town to support her in early June (which fits in with the Billy Bush comments) probably in advance of the divorce announcement. There are a lot of very weird posts (including one of her holding up a bag in front of her and filming while driving) in June. I think she’s having some kind of psych episode by that point.

The deluge of stories over the last few days tagging random famous people is way over the top. Mania for sure.

Something happened in April is like an affair was revealed, But maybe has been going on for years. And maybe her posting passive aggressively about everything she's handling is a reference to all of the child care and home maintenance she has been doing for a long period of time while he was stepping out. Ask me how I know.

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It's boring and doesn't sell clickbait , therapy or pharmaceuticals.

Ready ??

All men are pigs and all women are crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:I am following this. She is clearly having a manic episode and anyone who has been around a bipolar person can see it: Grandiosity, excessive posting and tagging everyone, calling everyone else crazy, feeling closer to God or spiritual, saying you've never been happier. She is likely bipolar and off meds. She always seemed so stable and sane so it's a shock. Samed thing happened to a friend who is in a happy marriage, she started saying her husband was abusing her and demonizing him, talking excessively and lost her voice, spending money, acting grandiose. She was 5150'd and was mortified when she started meds and reflected on her behavior.

It’s great your friend recovered, and that it seems her husband stood by her. Kelley is gorgeous and always seemed nice, it’s lame if in sickness meant little to her husband. But who knows.

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It's probably just that she is menopausal/perimenopausal and he doesn't want to deal with it.

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Anonymous wrote:I am following this. She is clearly having a manic episode and anyone who has been around a bipolar person can see it: Grandiosity, excessive posting and tagging everyone, calling everyone else crazy, feeling closer to God or spiritual, saying you've never been happier. She is likely bipolar and off meds. She always seemed so stable and sane so it's a shock. Samed thing happened to a friend who is in a happy marriage, she started saying her husband was abusing her and demonizing him, talking excessively and lost her voice, spending money, acting grandiose. She was 5150'd and was mortified when she started meds and reflected on her behavior.

It’s great your friend recovered, and that it seems her husband stood by her. Kelley is gorgeous and always seemed nice, it’s lame if in sickness meant little to her husband. But who knows.

Her husband is a psychiatrist so realized it was all part of the mania. Most people don't realize it and might think this is who she is now. Especially when they start being so nasty to you, it's hard to stick by that. But like you said, who knows what is happening with them.

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Anonymous wrote:She went public first with nice comments about him as a person and father and how she tried rooted in hope, patience and care of their children.

He then came out with his own statement to let it be known that he was the one that filed for divorce (strange)—-

Not sure why he went public to let people know he filed, not her.

That was the first clue he is a malignant covert narcissist. Narcs like him always have to “win”. His statement versus hers gave it all away. She was above board and hopeful, he had to let the world know 1) his decision 2) “he tried” but she was flawed.

This is a woman who was probably cheated on, emotional and psychologically abused, gaslit to the point of breakdown. She probably tried to save their marriage for years before he did the final narcissist “discard”. Her self esteem and metal health are completely shattered. Ask me how I know. Praying for peace for Kelly.

Based on her posting from a bar post discharge it seems like she is either manic or borderline, does not take her meds, and
likes to drink. That's a lethal combination. I would last about two weeks with someone like that so I applaud him for lasting 20 years. She posted crazy crap and tagged A bunch of actors and a few presidents. She seems unstable and grandiose. If you have ever tried having a conversation with a person who has delusions of grandiosity you know how frustrating it is. He is right to leave her and take the kids.

If that’s true, which I don’t believe it even remotely is, not even close, then he should be standing beside her and getting her help. She is totally having a meltdown but it’s not because of meds or drinking. It’s from abuse. Even when she was in the Real Workd house, filed 24-7, she was the one who didn’t drink, didn’t sleep around, literally the most boring character to the point I wondered why they even cast her. Bipolar and Biorderljne personality disorders are psinfully onvious by late teens and early 20’s. She displayed NONE of that.

This is a classic case of Scott employing DARVO after years if Narc abuse and she feels helpless and lost. I wish SHE had left him 20 years ago. I hope she can afford Laura Wassar and cleans him out. Agree with PP he is narc with insufferable little man syndrome.

Not always. My MIL had her first manic episode at age 70! Was classic mania. Never a hint of even regular depression prior.

Um no, that’s called early onset dementia brought on by age. Early onset dementia has many symptoms that look like mania and then it’s all downhill. Mania doesn’t just turn up at 70. Please get your MIL a new Doctor.

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Anonymous wrote:He pushed her over the age and she had a mental break. It sounds like typical Narc behavior and gaslighting.

I’m sure she dealt with the emotional/psychological abuse for years.

I’m a very very strong woman who people joked wouldn’t put up with cr@p and I was reduced to a shell of my old self 20-years into marriage. Walking on eggshells, managing spouse’s moods, protecting the kids, being/looking perfect (due to threats), putting out when I didn’t want too after ugliness and drunken insults.

Then finding out about an affair and constant threats of divorce….i went loco for a few weeks. Luckily, I held it together for my kids and nobody outside the home was any wiser—minus the one good couple friends I confided in. Even my own family has no idea.

And he always played the charming great loving husband to everyone outside the home. People would tell me how jealous they were that I had such a great husband.

This really set off alarm bells for me. He filed and she had this reaction —he will blame it on her “going crazy/being unstable”.

You posted a lot in relationships and you are certifiable.

DP here and I don't post in the Relationships forum-- but I could have written that post. Nothing she has written here seems crazy to me. It is exactly my experience. Cheaters operate from the same playbook. If you don't understand that, you have not experienced it and attribute the fact that you have not experienced it to the idea that you are smarter and make better decisions, and you know what- god bless you. This reality is very ugly and soul crushing and I hope it never happens to you or your children.

Add me to the list! This is exactly my experience as well with a Narc. I also could have written that post word for word. They operate out of the same playbook. Good lord, I want to hug that PP and you too. We’ve all been through it. So many women could (and men too, women can also be malignant narcissists. I can think of one very famous one now who has reduced her husband to rubble) People have no idea how being married to narcissist can drive you to the absolute brink of insanity. Add in 20 years of psychological emotional abuse in marriage and a healthy dose of perimenopause and you get a woman who is shattered melting down and fed up. And he intentionally gets to look sane, reputation destroying is part of the Narc playbook. People who have personality disorders like Narcissism can not be cured. There are no meds for them. They are dangerous manipulative and destructive for life. So Kelly wherever you are, women who’ve been through this see you, you’ve got this!!!

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A sane person would not act like Kelley, even when provoked by a narc (which may not even be the case. We do NOT know.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am following this. She is clearly having a manic episode and anyone who has been around a bipolar person can see it: Grandiosity, excessive posting and tagging everyone, calling everyone else crazy, feeling closer to God or spiritual, saying you've never been happier. She is likely bipolar and off meds. She always seemed so stable and sane so it's a shock. Samed thing happened to a friend who is in a happy marriage, she started saying her husband was abusing her and demonizing him, talking excessively and lost her voice, spending money, acting grandiose. She was 5150'd and was mortified when she started meds and reflected on her behavior.

It’s great your friend recovered, and that it seems her husband stood by her. Kelley is gorgeous and always seemed nice, it’s lame if in sickness meant little to her husband. But who knows.

Her husband is a psychiatrist so realized it was all part of the mania. Most people don't realize it and might think this is who she is now. Especially when they start being so nasty to you, it's hard to stick by that. But like you said, who knows what is happening with them.

It is good that she was able to recover. Most marriages would be done at the point. Certainly following medical advice to minimize symptoms of mania would be recommended. Kelley seems stuck in mania and resistant to any treatment. A person has to want to get better.

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Anonymous wrote:A sane person would not act like Kelley, even when provoked by a narc (which may not even be the case. We do NOT know.)

Narc’s just dont provoke, they methodically destroy over a long period of time with many multiple cycles of abuse. Of course it could be something else but his statement gave him away. Victims of long term abuse absolutely look like Kelly. It is a disservice to abuse victims to pretend like they come out of these situations mentally intact. It takes years, sometimes even decades for these victims to recover. She was filmed for six months in the Real World 24 hours a day and she was so sane and calm she was annoyingly boring. She’s not bipolar.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on her IG… She was clearly starting to lose it as early as January when she makes the post about her kid being in the hospital/leaving the other one home and passive aggressively mentions Scott is promoting a new show for Fox. Seems like she had to handle a lot on the home front and was starting to snap; though they have sufficient money that it seems odd she didn’t have more help at least (leaving a sick 12 year old home alone, if that’s literally true?).

Then something happened April. I’m guessing Scott cheated based on what she starts posting (betrayal, etc) & her parents seemingly come to town to support her in early June (which fits in with the Billy Bush comments) probably in advance of the divorce announcement. There are a lot of very weird posts (including one of her holding up a bag in front of her and filming while driving) in June. I think she’s having some kind of psych episode by that point.

The deluge of stories over the last few days tagging random famous people is way over the top. Mania for sure.

Something happened in April is like an affair was revealed, But maybe has been going on for years. And maybe her posting passive aggressively about everything she's handling is a reference to all of the child care and home maintenance she has been doing for a long period of time while he was stepping out. Ask me how I know.

Tell us!
How do you know?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A sane person would not act like Kelley, even when provoked by a narc (which may not even be the case. We do NOT know.)

Narc’s just dont provoke, they methodically destroy over a long period of time with many multiple cycles of abuse. Of course it could be something else but his statement gave him away. Victims of long term abuse absolutely look like Kelly. It is a disservice to abuse victims to pretend like they come out of these situations mentally intact. It takes years, sometimes even decades for these victims to recover. She was filmed for six months in the Real World 24 hours a day and she was so sane and calm she was annoyingly boring. She’s not bipolar.

Even assuming that she is an abuse victim, she has medical problems that are caused by a chemical imbalsnce in her brain. The medical problems are in her body and were not caused by anyone else..She has to comply with treatment if she wants anything to improve. Getting drunk and posting nonsensical rants will push everyone away. If you think anyone wants to be married to a blabbing, grandiose drunk you ars mistaken. There is a point where it ruins your life and you have to leave.

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Anonymous wrote:A sane person would not act like Kelley, even when provoked by a narc (which may not even be the case. We do NOT know.)

Narc’s just dont provoke, they methodically destroy over a long period of time with many multiple cycles of abuse. Of course it could be something else but his statement gave him away. Victims of long term abuse absolutely look like Kelly. It is a disservice to abuse victims to pretend like they come out of these situations mentally intact. It takes years, sometimes even decades for these victims to recover. She was filmed for six months in the Real World 24 hours a day and she was so sane and calm she was annoyingly boring. She’s not bipolar.

Isnt the definition of bipolar, extreme moods in both directions, highs and lows?