Scott Wolf (Party of Five) and wife Kelley are divorcing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She went public first with nice comments about him as a person and father and how she tried rooted in hope, patience and care of their children.

He then came out with his own statement to let it be known that he was the one that filed for divorce (strange)—-

Not sure why he went public to let people know he filed, not her.

That was the first clue he is a malignant covert narcissist. Narcs like him always have to “win”. His statement versus hers gave it all away. She was above board and hopeful, he had to let the world know 1) his decision 2) “he tried” but she was flawed.

This is a woman who was probably cheated on, emotional and psychologically abused, gaslit to the point of breakdown. She probably tried to save their marriage for years before he did the final narcissist “discard”. Her self esteem and metal health are completely shattered. Ask me how I know. Praying for peace for Kelly.

Based on her posting from a bar post discharge it seems like she is either manic or borderline, does not take her meds, and
likes to drink. That's a lethal combination. I would last about two weeks with someone like that so I applaud him for lasting 20 years. She posted crazy crap and tagged A bunch of actors and a few presidents. She seems unstable and grandiose. If you have ever tried having a conversation with a person who has delusions of grandiosity you know how frustrating it is. He is right to leave her and take the kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She went public first with nice comments about him as a person and father and how she tried rooted in hope, patience and care of their children.

He then came out with his own statement to let it be known that he was the one that filed for divorce (strange)—-

Not sure why he went public to let people know he filed, not her.

That was the first clue he is a malignant covert narcissist. Narcs like him always have to “win”. His statement versus hers gave it all away. She was above board and hopeful, he had to let the world know 1) his decision 2) “he tried” but she was flawed.

This is a woman who was probably cheated on, emotional and psychologically abused, gaslit to the point of breakdown. She probably tried to save their marriage for years before he did the final narcissist “discard”. Her self esteem and metal health are completely shattered. Ask me how I know. Praying for peace for Kelly.

Based on her posting from a bar post discharge it seems like she is either manic or borderline, does not take her meds, and
likes to drink. That's a lethal combination. I would last about two weeks with someone like that so I applaud him for lasting 20 years. She posted crazy crap and tagged A bunch of actors and a few presidents. She seems unstable and grandiose. If you have ever tried having a conversation with a person who has delusions of grandiosity you know how frustrating it is. He is right to leave her and take the kids.

If that’s true, which I don’t believe it even remotely is, not even close, then he should be standing beside her and getting her help. She is totally having a meltdown but it’s not because of meds or drinking. It’s from abuse. Even when she was in the Real Workd house, filed 24-7, she was the one who didn’t drink, didn’t sleep around, literally the most boring character to the point I wondered why they even cast her. Bipolar and Biorderljne personality disorders are psinfully onvious by late teens and early 20’s. She displayed NONE of that.

This is a classic case of Scott employing DARVO after years if Narc abuse and she feels helpless and lost. I wish SHE had left him 20 years ago. I hope she can afford Laura Wassar and cleans him out. Agree with PP he is narc with insufferable little man syndrome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She went public first with nice comments about him as a person and father and how she tried rooted in hope, patience and care of their children.

He then came out with his own statement to let it be known that he was the one that filed for divorce (strange)—-

Not sure why he went public to let people know he filed, not her.

That was the first clue he is a malignant covert narcissist. Narcs like him always have to “win”. His statement versus hers gave it all away. She was above board and hopeful, he had to let the world know 1) his decision 2) “he tried” but she was flawed.

This is a woman who was probably cheated on, emotional and psychologically abused, gaslit to the point of breakdown. She probably tried to save their marriage for years before he did the final narcissist “discard”. Her self esteem and metal health are completely shattered. Ask me how I know. Praying for peace for Kelly.

Based on her posting from a bar post discharge it seems like she is either manic or borderline, does not take her meds, and
likes to drink. That's a lethal combination. I would last about two weeks with someone like that so I applaud him for lasting 20 years. She posted crazy crap and tagged A bunch of actors and a few presidents. She seems unstable and grandiose. If you have ever tried having a conversation with a person who has delusions of grandiosity you know how frustrating it is. He is right to leave her and take the kids.

If that’s true, which I don’t believe it even remotely is, not even close, then he should be standing beside her and getting her help. She is totally having a meltdown but it’s not because of meds or drinking. It’s from abuse. Even when she was in the Real Workd house, filed 24-7, she was the one who didn’t drink, didn’t sleep around, literally the most boring character to the point I wondered why they even cast her. Bipolar and Biorderljne personality disorders are psinfully onvious by late teens and early 20’s. She displayed NONE of that.

This is a classic case of Scott employing DARVO after years if Narc abuse and she feels helpless and lost. I wish SHE had left him 20 years ago. I hope she can afford Laura Wassar and cleans him out. Agree with PP he is narc with insufferable little man syndrome.

What is DARVO?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She went public first with nice comments about him as a person and father and how she tried rooted in hope, patience and care of their children.

He then came out with his own statement to let it be known that he was the one that filed for divorce (strange)—-

Not sure why he went public to let people know he filed, not her.

That was the first clue he is a malignant covert narcissist. Narcs like him always have to “win”. His statement versus hers gave it all away. She was above board and hopeful, he had to let the world know 1) his decision 2) “he tried” but she was flawed.

This is a woman who was probably cheated on, emotional and psychologically abused, gaslit to the point of breakdown. She probably tried to save their marriage for years before he did the final narcissist “discard”. Her self esteem and metal health are completely shattered. Ask me how I know. Praying for peace for Kelly.

Based on her posting from a bar post discharge it seems like she is either manic or borderline, does not take her meds, and
likes to drink. That's a lethal combination. I would last about two weeks with someone like that so I applaud him for lasting 20 years. She posted crazy crap and tagged A bunch of actors and a few presidents. She seems unstable and grandiose. If you have ever tried having a conversation with a person who has delusions of grandiosity you know how frustrating it is. He is right to leave her and take the kids.

If that’s true, which I don’t believe it even remotely is, not even close, then he should be standing beside her and getting her help. She is totally having a meltdown but it’s not because of meds or drinking. It’s from abuse. Even when she was in the Real Workd house, filed 24-7, she was the one who didn’t drink, didn’t sleep around, literally the most boring character to the point I wondered why they even cast her. Bipolar and Biorderljne personality disorders are psinfully onvious by late teens and early 20’s. She displayed NONE of that.

This is a classic case of Scott employing DARVO after years if Narc abuse and she feels helpless and lost. I wish SHE had left him 20 years ago. I hope she can afford Laura Wassar and cleans him out. Agree with PP he is narc with insufferable little man syndrome.

She is posting objectively crazy things on Instagram. She was also posting from a bar while still wearing a hospital bracelet.

Assuming that she takes some sort of psych meds, mixing those meds with alcohol can be fatal. I know several people who have killed themselves accidentally or intentionally by mixing alcohol and psych mess. I know for a fact that their spouses wish they had left because hanging out and watching your spouse mix booze and pills while you beg them to stop is really stressful. So is waking up and finding your spouse dead

[Anonymous]

He pushed her over the age and she had a mental break. It sounds like typical Narc behavior and gaslighting.

I’m sure she dealt with the emotional/psychological abuse for years.

I’m a very very strong woman who people joked wouldn’t put up with cr@p and I was reduced to a shell of my old self 20-years into marriage. Walking on eggshells, managing spouse’s moods, protecting the kids, being/looking perfect (due to threats), putting out when I didn’t want too after ugliness and drunken insults.

Then finding out about an affair and constant threats of divorce….i went loco for a few weeks. Luckily, I held it together for my kids and nobody outside the home was any wiser—minus the one good couple friends I confided in. Even my own family has no idea.

And he always played the charming great loving husband to everyone outside the home. People would tell me how jealous they were that I had such a great husband.

This really set off alarm bells for me. He filed and she had this reaction —he will blame it on her “going crazy/being unstable”.

[Anonymous]

^ over the edge

[Anonymous]

Wow, a lot of assumptions here for not knowing these people!

It is big to jump to she is having a psychotic episode because of her ex causing her issues. I had an ex who died by suicide. I definitely didn't cause his issues. I wish people would not judge so fast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He pushed her over the age and she had a mental break. It sounds like typical Narc behavior and gaslighting.

I’m sure she dealt with the emotional/psychological abuse for years.

I’m a very very strong woman who people joked wouldn’t put up with cr@p and I was reduced to a shell of my old self 20-years into marriage. Walking on eggshells, managing spouse’s moods, protecting the kids, being/looking perfect (due to threats), putting out when I didn’t want too after ugliness and drunken insults.

Then finding out about an affair and constant threats of divorce….i went loco for a few weeks. Luckily, I held it together for my kids and nobody outside the home was any wiser—minus the one good couple friends I confided in. Even my own family has no idea.

And he always played the charming great loving husband to everyone outside the home. People would tell me how jealous they were that I had such a great husband.

This really set off alarm bells for me. He filed and she had this reaction —he will blame it on her “going crazy/being unstable”.

Where is your evidence for this abuse?

What do you think Scott Wolfe can do to help someone that will not stop mixing pills and booze? Please explain how he can stop her. Should he put her in handcuffs to prevent the drinking and drug use?

She tried to choke Scott in front of witnesses and she also threw herself on the ground at Sundance Resort and refused to leave. She is a train wreck and I can guarantee that she has done a lot more if these two serious incidents were witnessed by others.

I could see your point if she posted that she wanted to recover and get better. But she is literally going from the hospital to the bar. She is slowly killing herself and he is trying to separate himself and maintain his sanity. It is better for him to leave her than to be there for him and the kids to watch her kill herself or God forbid them. Do you think it would be good for the kids to watch her attack him again or for the kids to find a dead body?She is already giving up and that is not his fault.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He pushed her over the age and she had a mental break. It sounds like typical Narc behavior and gaslighting.

I’m sure she dealt with the emotional/psychological abuse for years.

I’m a very very strong woman who people joked wouldn’t put up with cr@p and I was reduced to a shell of my old self 20-years into marriage. Walking on eggshells, managing spouse’s moods, protecting the kids, being/looking perfect (due to threats), putting out when I didn’t want too after ugliness and drunken insults.

Then finding out about an affair and constant threats of divorce….i went loco for a few weeks. Luckily, I held it together for my kids and nobody outside the home was any wiser—minus the one good couple friends I confided in. Even my own family has no idea.

And he always played the charming great loving husband to everyone outside the home. People would tell me how jealous they were that I had such a great husband.

This really set off alarm bells for me. He filed and she had this reaction —he will blame it on her “going crazy/being unstable”.

You posted a lot in relationships and you are certifiable.

[Anonymous]

Yikes, I can't imagine that anyone here knows enough to know which one pushed the other over the edge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He pushed her over the age and she had a mental break. It sounds like typical Narc behavior and gaslighting.

I’m sure she dealt with the emotional/psychological abuse for years.

I’m a very very strong woman who people joked wouldn’t put up with cr@p and I was reduced to a shell of my old self 20-years into marriage. Walking on eggshells, managing spouse’s moods, protecting the kids, being/looking perfect (due to threats), putting out when I didn’t want too after ugliness and drunken insults.

Then finding out about an affair and constant threats of divorce….i went loco for a few weeks. Luckily, I held it together for my kids and nobody outside the home was any wiser—minus the one good couple friends I confided in. Even my own family has no idea.

And he always played the charming great loving husband to everyone outside the home. People would tell me how jealous they were that I had such a great husband.

This really set off alarm bells for me. He filed and she had this reaction —he will blame it on her “going crazy/being unstable”.

Where is your evidence for this abuse?

What do you think Scott Wolfe can do to help someone that will not stop mixing pills and booze? Please explain how he can stop her. Should he put her in handcuffs to prevent the drinking and drug use?

She tried to choke Scott in front of witnesses and she also threw herself on the ground at Sundance Resort and refused to leave. She is a train wreck and I can guarantee that she has done a lot more if these two serious incidents were witnessed by others.

I could see your point if she posted that she wanted to recover and get better. But she is literally going from the hospital to the bar. She is slowly killing herself and he is trying to separate himself and maintain his sanity. It is better for him to leave her than to be there for him and the kids to watch her kill herself or God forbid them. Do you think it would be good for the kids to watch her attack him again or for the kids to find a dead body?She is already giving up and that is not his fault.

Plus 1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://people.com/kelley-wolf-taken-to-utah-hospital-by-police-exclusive-details-11754404

Yes. Crazy! Sounds like her dad was worried she’s losing it. She accuses wolf of abuse

https://www.eonline.com/news/1418713/scott-wolfs-estranged-wife-kelley-wolf-detained-by-police

Very very sad. Regardless of if he cheated, she sounds extremely emotionally unstable. Clearly she made very concerning comments to several people including her dad, who was worried enough to call it in.

Let me tell you —3 kids, married 21 years and you find your husband was living a double life—blind sided——the shock and trauma can cause a temporary mental break. I couldn’t sleep for a week— it felt like I was losing my mind. Your reality is not what you thought it was and it’s a real mind warp. Then- trying to keep everything from your kids and others and act like everything is normal…it’s tough, tough

This was me, too. This definitely smells like a cheating situation. Cheating is abuse, full stop, and all the woo woo in the world doesn't justify it.

Also just because you file doesn't make you the leaver. I filed...because I didn't like the fact that my husband left the home to be with his girlfriend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He pushed her over the age and she had a mental break. It sounds like typical Narc behavior and gaslighting.

I’m sure she dealt with the emotional/psychological abuse for years.

I’m a very very strong woman who people joked wouldn’t put up with cr@p and I was reduced to a shell of my old self 20-years into marriage. Walking on eggshells, managing spouse’s moods, protecting the kids, being/looking perfect (due to threats), putting out when I didn’t want too after ugliness and drunken insults.

Then finding out about an affair and constant threats of divorce….i went loco for a few weeks. Luckily, I held it together for my kids and nobody outside the home was any wiser—minus the one good couple friends I confided in. Even my own family has no idea.

And he always played the charming great loving husband to everyone outside the home. People would tell me how jealous they were that I had such a great husband.

This really set off alarm bells for me. He filed and she had this reaction —he will blame it on her “going crazy/being unstable”.

You posted a lot in relationships and you are certifiable.

DP here and I don't post in the Relationships forum-- but I could have written that post. Nothing she has written here seems crazy to me. It is exactly my experience. Cheaters operate from the same playbook. If you don't understand that, you have not experienced it and attribute the fact that you have not experienced it to the idea that you are smarter and make better decisions, and you know what- god bless you. This reality is very ugly and soul crushing and I hope it never happens to you or your children.

[Anonymous]

Sane people don't get "pushed over the edge" by anybody outside of severe physical abuse, stealing money or illegal activity. They step back, regroup, take a deep breath and act/take action like a sane person.

[Anonymous]

I am following this. She is clearly having a manic episode and anyone who has been around a bipolar person can see it: Grandiosity, excessive posting and tagging everyone, calling everyone else crazy, feeling closer to God or spiritual, saying you've never been happier. She is likely bipolar and off meds. She always seemed so stable and sane so it's a shock. Samed thing happened to a friend who is in a happy marriage, she started saying her husband was abusing her and demonizing him, talking excessively and lost her voice, spending money, acting grandiose. She was 5150'd and was mortified when she started meds and reflected on her behavior.