pre-college notetaking class

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why not just set up your phone or laptop to record and then leave? Why even go to class at all? Heck, you could work a FT job while in college.

I’m the PP. Because I am serious about learning. So I interact with the professors in the class while my iPad is recording. Alternative I can just use the recorded lecture later (my school records and uploads every lecture anyway). This allows me to focus on the class and interact and ask questions and discuss. This is impossible by just recording. Recording just lets me take this to another level.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Record lectures and have AI create notes from the recordings.

Do not do this without your professors permission. Without prior permission this is a violation of the honor code and certain laws. Generally only students with disability accommodations are permitted this option and they must still discuss it with each of their instructors in advance.

You live in lala land…. DS is at any Ivy. He is a Senior and like the PP mentioned, he told me that basically 70% of his classmates are doing exactly what was described earlier. Record/Transcribe and use an AI tool like Claude/Gemini/NotebookLM or Open AI to create a nice report for each lecture along with a summary of main concepts, quizzes etc. Nobody is asking professors for permissions. They use their cell phones and IPads. It is what it is.

It is disheartening to know that 70% of Ivy students are willfully violating the academic honor code because everyone else is doing it. And that you think I’m the one who is crazy for saying students should comply with an academic integrity document they willingly signed.

Show me any Ivy that claims we are violating academic honor code to take AI notes in classroom? Besides my Ivy posts the lecture recording online. Easy way around this is to take the online lecture and transcribe it. There you go. no more problems.

There seems to be a reading comprehension issue here. I very specifically was describing recording lectures without permission. What you are describing is clearly not recording a lecture without permission.

Also, Yale:

https://resources.environment.yale.edu/content/documents/00020770/Yale-University-Recording-Policy.pdf

[Anonymous]

Good thing I dont go to Yale….they are living with their head buried in the sand and a policy from Jan 2024 that might as well be from last century. I’m glad not all Ivies are this ridiculous….Yale should learn from Harvard and others….

[Anonymous]

DS is at Oxford and they also provide recorded lectures to students through Panopto. Same as Harvard. Way ahead of the game vs Yale. At Oxford if you want to record a class that is not being recorded by the school, you just need to ask the professor and the few times he had to ask they said yes as long as it was for personal use and you destroy the recording after assessment.

He also uses a similar approach as described here.

[Anonymous]

Harvards policy:

https://infoforfaculty.fas.harvard.edu/book/recordings#:~:text=Instructor%20Recordings,members%20of%20the%20course%20community.

[Anonymous]

Honestly? I think AI college PP sounds smart. I went to a challenging grad school unprepared for the FORMAT of classes and exams they offered. I wish that (a) this tech had been available then and (b) someone like PP had told me about it. Notes were key for us, but also the diligent digesting and maintenance of study habits that PP seems to be doing. PP is doing essential work, just more efficiently.

As a millennial parent often overwhelmed by today's tech options, thank you, PP.

[Anonymous]

You’re all so smart but you can’t walk and chew gum at the same time? I highly doubt most students who are recording lectures and having notes taken are actually paying attention. They are on their laptops or phones on social media or shopping or whatever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You’re all so smart but you can’t walk and chew gum at the same time? I highly doubt most students who are recording lectures and having notes taken are actually paying attention. They are on their laptops or phones on social media or shopping or whatever.

Maybe at Alabama or Oklahoma State…not at t10s…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Record lectures and have AI create notes from the recordings.

Do not do this without your professors permission. Without prior permission this is a violation of the honor code and certain laws. Generally only students with disability accommodations are permitted this option and they must still discuss it with each of their instructors in advance.

Don't be such a rule-following Karen. No one has any way of knowing that a student is running a voice-recording app on their phone, as long as the kid isn't totally stupid about it and doesn't broadcast it.

I'm a professor. Would you like me to tell one of your junior colleagues at your workplace, or maybe someone who reports to you, that they shouldn't be such a rule-following Karen?

And actually, we can tell a lot about what students are doing by their demeanor in the classroom. They tend to show us with their body language that they are up to something they know is wrong or off-limits.

[Anonymous]

I went back to grad school in my early 40s and sat in the back of most of my classes. I rarely saw students taking notes. Instead they were texting and surfing the internet. One student was day trading. Lol. They thought it was funny that I was taking old school notes. This was grad school at Hopkins BTW in case the PP accuses me of talking about some no name school.

[Anonymous]

Wow….these students wouldn’t last past the 1st test at my school….what subject was this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Record lectures and have AI create notes from the recordings.

Do not do this without your professors permission. Without prior permission this is a violation of the honor code and certain laws. Generally only students with disability accommodations are permitted this option and they must still discuss it with each of their instructors in advance.

Don't be such a rule-following Karen. No one has any way of knowing that a student is running a voice-recording app on their phone, as long as the kid isn't totally stupid about it and doesn't broadcast it.

I'm a professor. Would you like me to tell one of your junior colleagues at your workplace, or maybe someone who reports to you, that they shouldn't be such a rule-following Karen?

And actually, we can tell a lot about what students are doing by their demeanor in the classroom. They tend to show us with their body language that they are up to something they know is wrong or off-limits.

I agree with you. I’m the PP at t10 using these tools. One of my professors put it this way last month during a class discussion. he is the dept chair of the Ivy I attend:

“To my friends in academia still resisting the obvious, stop pretending this isn’t happening. The rise of AI is not speculative. It’s real, it’s rapid, and it’s reshaping every corner of society, including higher education. We can’t teach like it’s 2010 and expect students to thrive in 2030. As professors, we have a responsibility to adapt. That means overhauling our courses by rethinking content, assignments, and assessments to strike a real balance between technological literacy and the core insights of our disciplines. If we don’t reprogram our teaching now, we risk becoming irrelevant to the very future we’re supposed to prepare our students for.“

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Anonymous wrote:Record lectures and have AI create notes from the recordings.

Do not do this without your professors permission. Without prior permission this is a violation of the honor code and certain laws. Generally only students with disability accommodations are permitted this option and they must still discuss it with each of their instructors in advance.

Don't be such a rule-following Karen. No one has any way of knowing that a student is running a voice-recording app on their phone, as long as the kid isn't totally stupid about it and doesn't broadcast it.

I'm a professor. Would you like me to tell one of your junior colleagues at your workplace, or maybe someone who reports to you, that they shouldn't be such a rule-following Karen?

And actually, we can tell a lot about what students are doing by their demeanor in the classroom. They tend to show us with their body language that they are up to something they know is wrong or off-limits.

Give me a break. Are you going to search a kid's phone because his body language or demeanor is triggering this ESP you claim to have? Even if you wanted to, you'd be breaking the law.

[Anonymous]

Note taking in lectures is the same as note taking from books, except quicker.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Record lectures and have AI create notes from the recordings.

Do not do this without your professors permission. Without prior permission this is a violation of the honor code and certain laws. Generally only students with disability accommodations are permitted this option and they must still discuss it with each of their instructors in advance.

Don't be such a rule-following Karen. No one has any way of knowing that a student is running a voice-recording app on their phone, as long as the kid isn't totally stupid about it and doesn't broadcast it.

I'm a professor. Would you like me to tell one of your junior colleagues at your workplace, or maybe someone who reports to you, that they shouldn't be such a rule-following Karen?

And actually, we can tell a lot about what students are doing by their demeanor in the classroom. They tend to show us with their body language that they are up to something they know is wrong or off-limits.

Give me a break. Are you going to search a kid's phone because his body language or demeanor is triggering this ESP you claim to have? Even if you wanted to, you'd be breaking the law.

No, but this is also sometimes how we can guess if they're cheating during a test or quiz, for example.

If I thought a kid was recording when they weren't supposed to be, I'd juat ask. They don't usually want to keep lying over and over again.