Research Paper

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a professor, and I think research internships can be a good way for very driven and motivated students to get a taste of what a research career might be like. They can also gain some valuable skills and if they are especially responsible and capable they can contribute in a minor way by carrying out data analyses or helping to run experiments. However, it is very exceedingly rare that a teenager is actually a primary author. When students are authors, they are only a minor contributor, and this means they were responsible and smart and hardworking, and also they were lucky enough to have had some sort of connection. So it is very silly for any admissions office to expect students to do research (since not all talented high schoolers have access or connections), and even sillier for them to expect publications. Many undergraduate students at top universities do not publish during their time in college. The fact that parents and high school students believe publications are necessary just shows how out-of-hand the hype and hysteria has gotten and this makes them vulnerable to predatory pay-to-play programs. Please do not fall for this and please stop supporting shady and dishonest pay-to-play publications.

All of you should capitalize on the free labor; the overseas missions that have a nice beach sure got their fill.

Research it and convince us. Design, experiment, collect the data, analyze it and lay it out for us. We will be happy to take a look at your hypothesis.

I was thinking like get coffee and stuff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a professor, and I think research internships can be a good way for very driven and motivated students to get a taste of what a research career might be like. They can also gain some valuable skills and if they are especially responsible and capable they can contribute in a minor way by carrying out data analyses or helping to run experiments. However, it is very exceedingly rare that a teenager is actually a primary author. When students are authors, they are only a minor contributor, and this means they were responsible and smart and hardworking, and also they were lucky enough to have had some sort of connection. So it is very silly for any admissions office to expect students to do research (since not all talented high schoolers have access or connections), and even sillier for them to expect publications. Many undergraduate students at top universities do not publish during their time in college. The fact that parents and high school students believe publications are necessary just shows how out-of-hand the hype and hysteria has gotten and this makes them vulnerable to predatory pay-to-play programs. Please do not fall for this and please stop supporting shady and dishonest pay-to-play publications.

All of you should capitalize on the free labor; the overseas missions that have a nice beach sure got their fill.

This made me chuckle a bit because both my husband and I have mentored high school students in the past and it is a lot of work for us if we actually want the kids to learn something from the experience. It is not really free labor. Only after a long investment period do the students actually contribute, and most high school students can't participate for long enough to get to this point. We've had a couple of great kids who learned a lot and received great letters of rec from us. Unfortunately, we both stopped taking high school students because in recent years the students we invited to our labs just didn't seem that interested or engaged even though they seemed very keen at the beginning. But my husband did offer a zoom interview to a high school emailer this semester, just to give them some advice and answer questions about the department, but the student then stood him up and never emailed to explain why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a professor, and I think research internships can be a good way for very driven and motivated students to get a taste of what a research career might be like. They can also gain some valuable skills and if they are especially responsible and capable they can contribute in a minor way by carrying out data analyses or helping to run experiments. However, it is very exceedingly rare that a teenager is actually a primary author. When students are authors, they are only a minor contributor, and this means they were responsible and smart and hardworking, and also they were lucky enough to have had some sort of connection. So it is very silly for any admissions office to expect students to do research (since not all talented high schoolers have access or connections), and even sillier for them to expect publications. Many undergraduate students at top universities do not publish during their time in college. The fact that parents and high school students believe publications are necessary just shows how out-of-hand the hype and hysteria has gotten and this makes them vulnerable to predatory pay-to-play programs. Please do not fall for this and please stop supporting shady and dishonest pay-to-play publications.

All of you should capitalize on the free labor; the overseas missions that have a nice beach sure got their fill.

Research it and convince us. Design, experiment, collect the data, analyze it and lay it out for us. We will be happy to take a look at your hypothesis.

I was thinking like get coffee and stuff.

Oh, I had never thought to get *this* kind of free labor. Tempting, but feels wrong.