Research Paper

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are several high school online journals where they can publish. I just don’t know which professors refer to a high school journal

High school journals are predatory. Please just let them be kids. Research is for professors.

I don't know what high school journals are, but high school students absolutely can be interested in research. Many high schools have science research programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My High school child mentioned that colleges are now looking for research papers for admissions. If anyone here can please explain the process, as we are not familiar with it, thank you for your help.

I hope most don’t start doing this…. You’ll just have so much cheating. I know of kids getting into Ivy League and strong schools who bragged that their parents wrote their college essays.

So much ick.

[Anonymous]

Fpr 99% of the time - the Student Published Research Paper is a scam; either a made up journal no one cares about or a family connection to a professor.

A proper research paper takes a person with a PHD months if not years of work, blind reviewed by three other researchers, and submitted months before being published. It's not a weekend write-up.

There are intro books that are written by teens that are legit, they are things like how to create a website; it's basic and legit. This is what I expect from a teen.

What next? Colleges are expecting a book on the best seller list?

If your kid can do all this? why are they going to college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fpr 99% of the time - the Student Published Research Paper is a scam; either a made up journal no one cares about or a family connection to a professor.

A proper research paper takes a person with a PHD months if not years of work, blind reviewed by three other researchers, and submitted months before being published. It's not a weekend write-up.

There are intro books that are written by teens that are legit, they are things like how to create a website; it's basic and legit. This is what I expect from a teen.

What next? Colleges are expecting a book on the best seller list?

If your kid can do all this? why are they going to college?

Okay, put aside whether or not the research work is ever published or not.

Many high schools have science research programs for students that are interested in science research. At our high school, it starts freshman year of high school and progresses through senior year.

The students build up their knowledge and skills and then normally during the summer after Junior year, they work with a mentor on a research project. Senior fall includes finalizing the data analysis and completing the research paper under the guidance of the science research instructor. This program is aimed at learning about science research and then making a submission to science competitions like Isef and regeneron and others.

It's possible that this work could be submitted to certain colleges to support an application if it's a university that considers such submissions. Some do.

It's certainly not for everyone but for students that are interested in science research it's a great program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fpr 99% of the time - the Student Published Research Paper is a scam; either a made up journal no one cares about or a family connection to a professor.

A proper research paper takes a person with a PHD months if not years of work, blind reviewed by three other researchers, and submitted months before being published. It's not a weekend write-up.

There are intro books that are written by teens that are legit, they are things like how to create a website; it's basic and legit. This is what I expect from a teen.

What next? Colleges are expecting a book on the best seller list?

If your kid can do all this? why are they going to college?

Okay, put aside whether or not the research work is ever published or not.

Many high schools have science research programs for students that are interested in science research. At our high school, it starts freshman year of high school and progresses through senior year.

The students build up their knowledge and skills and then normally during the summer after Junior year, they work with a mentor on a research project. Senior fall includes finalizing the data analysis and completing the research paper under the guidance of the science research instructor. This program is aimed at learning about science research and then making a submission to science competitions like Isef and regeneron and others.

It's possible that this work could be submitted to certain colleges to support an application if it's a university that considers such submissions. Some do.

It's certainly not for everyone but for students that are interested in science research it's a great program.

This is totally different from publishing a paper at a international journal which I'm claiming is a scam except for a select few. What you described is completely legit and you should enter this also in the Science Fair or Science Olympiad for further recognition; the Science Fairs were built for this but now they have also become a scam. Google the winning science fair titles you'll see it's a rip-off of a land-mark research paper of that same year. I can't believe kids have to fake it to make it now. And then what? the next generation of Cons rule the world?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fpr 99% of the time - the Student Published Research Paper is a scam; either a made up journal no one cares about or a family connection to a professor.

A proper research paper takes a person with a PHD months if not years of work, blind reviewed by three other researchers, and submitted months before being published. It's not a weekend write-up.

There are intro books that are written by teens that are legit, they are things like how to create a website; it's basic and legit. This is what I expect from a teen.

What next? Colleges are expecting a book on the best seller list?

If your kid can do all this? why are they going to college?

Okay, put aside whether or not the research work is ever published or not.

Many high schools have science research programs for students that are interested in science research. At our high school, it starts freshman year of high school and progresses through senior year.

The students build up their knowledge and skills and then normally during the summer after Junior year, they work with a mentor on a research project. Senior fall includes finalizing the data analysis and completing the research paper under the guidance of the science research instructor. This program is aimed at learning about science research and then making a submission to science competitions like Isef and regeneron and others.

It's possible that this work could be submitted to certain colleges to support an application if it's a university that considers such submissions. Some do.

It's certainly not for everyone but for students that are interested in science research it's a great program.

This is totally different from publishing a paper at a international journal which I'm claiming is a scam except for a select few. What you described is completely legit and you should enter this also in the Science Fair or Science Olympiad for further recognition; the Science Fairs were built for this but now they have also become a scam. Google the winning science fair titles you'll see it's a rip-off of a land-mark research paper of that same year. I can't believe kids have to fake it to make it now. And then what? the next generation of Cons rule the world?

Relax drama queen. It's just a course taught in high schools to learn about science research.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My High school child mentioned that colleges are now looking for research papers for admissions. If anyone here can please explain the process, as we are not familiar with it, thank you for your help.

My DC submitted one that was published. she participated in in the research and the head researcher put her in the byline for her contribution. The instructions from the institution had indicated what type of materials they would consider for submission and published research was on that list.

HS kids now routinely head research and publish papers? That’s cool and a lot of work. No wonder they’re stressed!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are several high school online journals where they can publish. I just don’t know which professors refer to a high school journal

High school journals are predatory. Please just let them be kids. Research is for professors.

I don't know what high school journals are, but high school students absolutely can be interested in research. Many high schools have science research programs.

I do know the school poetry or writing booklets. Or the self published ones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My High school child mentioned that colleges are now looking for research papers for admissions. If anyone here can please explain the process, as we are not familiar with it, thank you for your help.

My DC submitted one that was published. she participated in in the research and the head researcher put her in the byline for her contribution. The instructions from the institution had indicated what type of materials they would consider for submission and published research was on that list.

HS kids now routinely head research and publish papers? That’s cool and a lot of work. No wonder they’re stressed!!

Read it again. The poster said that the lead investigator acknowledged a student contribution, not that a high school student was the lead investigator.

It's an activity like a lot of other high school activities. Some kids are interested in violin. Some like to play football some want to learn about science research. Different strokes for different folks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fpr 99% of the time - the Student Published Research Paper is a scam; either a made up journal no one cares about or a family connection to a professor.

A proper research paper takes a person with a PHD months if not years of work, blind reviewed by three other researchers, and submitted months before being published. It's not a weekend write-up.

There are intro books that are written by teens that are legit, they are things like how to create a website; it's basic and legit. This is what I expect from a teen.

What next? Colleges are expecting a book on the best seller list?

If your kid can do all this? why are they going to college?

Okay, put aside whether or not the research work is ever published or not.

Many high schools have science research programs for students that are interested in science research. At our high school, it starts freshman year of high school and progresses through senior year.

The students build up their knowledge and skills and then normally during the summer after Junior year, they work with a mentor on a research project. Senior fall includes finalizing the data analysis and completing the research paper under the guidance of the science research instructor. This program is aimed at learning about science research and then making a submission to science competitions like Isef and regeneron and others.

It's possible that this work could be submitted to certain colleges to support an application if it's a university that considers such submissions. Some do.

It's certainly not for everyone but for students that are interested in science research it's a great program.

This is totally different from publishing a paper at a international journal which I'm claiming is a scam except for a select few. What you described is completely legit and you should enter this also in the Science Fair or Science Olympiad for further recognition; the Science Fairs were built for this but now they have also become a scam. Google the winning science fair titles you'll see it's a rip-off of a land-mark research paper of that same year. I can't believe kids have to fake it to make it now. And then what? the next generation of Cons rule the world?

Relax drama queen. It's just a course taught in high schools to learn about science research.

The HS course is fine and I encourage it. The outcome is the right level with the right stress.

What I am saying is "the over the top accomplishments" are a total scam.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fpr 99% of the time - the Student Published Research Paper is a scam; either a made up journal no one cares about or a family connection to a professor.

A proper research paper takes a person with a PHD months if not years of work, blind reviewed by three other researchers, and submitted months before being published. It's not a weekend write-up.

There are intro books that are written by teens that are legit, they are things like how to create a website; it's basic and legit. This is what I expect from a teen.

What next? Colleges are expecting a book on the best seller list?

If your kid can do all this? why are they going to college?

Okay, put aside whether or not the research work is ever published or not.

Many high schools have science research programs for students that are interested in science research. At our high school, it starts freshman year of high school and progresses through senior year.

The students build up their knowledge and skills and then normally during the summer after Junior year, they work with a mentor on a research project. Senior fall includes finalizing the data analysis and completing the research paper under the guidance of the science research instructor. This program is aimed at learning about science research and then making a submission to science competitions like Isef and regeneron and others.

It's possible that this work could be submitted to certain colleges to support an application if it's a university that considers such submissions. Some do.

It's certainly not for everyone but for students that are interested in science research it's a great program.

This is totally different from publishing a paper at a international journal which I'm claiming is a scam except for a select few. What you described is completely legit and you should enter this also in the Science Fair or Science Olympiad for further recognition; the Science Fairs were built for this but now they have also become a scam. Google the winning science fair titles you'll see it's a rip-off of a land-mark research paper of that same year. I can't believe kids have to fake it to make it now. And then what? the next generation of Cons rule the world?

Relax drama queen. It's just a course taught in high schools to learn about science research.

The HS course is fine and I encourage it. The outcome is the right level with the right stress.

What I am saying is "the over the top accomplishments" are a total scam.

There's a wide range of ability when learning science research just like with anything else. Some kids can be a tennis pro by age 18 and some will never hit the ball over the net.

Just back off kids that are interested in science research. There's nothing wrong with it and some of them are really interested and want to put a lot of time and energy into it and some don't.

Some of the projects and analysis yield a statistically significant result that is of interest. Most do not. It's no different than any other pursuit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My High school child mentioned that colleges are now looking for research papers for admissions. If anyone here can please explain the process, as we are not familiar with it, thank you for your help.

My DC submitted one that was published. she participated in in the research and the head researcher put her in the byline for her contribution. The instructions from the institution had indicated what type of materials they would consider for submission and published research was on that list.

HS kids now routinely head research and publish papers? That’s cool and a lot of work. No wonder they’re stressed!!

And then they get to college and away from their parents, and never publish another paper and never file for another patent ever again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My High school child mentioned that colleges are now looking for research papers for admissions. If anyone here can please explain the process, as we are not familiar with it, thank you for your help.

My DC submitted one that was published. she participated in in the research and the head researcher put her in the byline for her contribution. The instructions from the institution had indicated what type of materials they would consider for submission and published research was on that list.

HS kids now routinely head research and publish papers? That’s cool and a lot of work. No wonder they’re stressed!!

Read it again. The poster said that the lead investigator acknowledged a student contribution, not that a high school student was the lead investigator.

It's an activity like a lot of other high school activities. Some kids are interested in violin. Some like to play football some want to learn about science research. Different strokes for different folks

They used to want to fly to a developing country and volunteer at an orphanage. Apparently that changed them more than it changed the orphans, or so their essay said. That activity fell out of fashion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My High school child mentioned that colleges are now looking for research papers for admissions. If anyone here can please explain the process, as we are not familiar with it, thank you for your help.

My DC submitted one that was published. she participated in in the research and the head researcher put her in the byline for her contribution. The instructions from the institution had indicated what type of materials they would consider for submission and published research was on that list.

what exactly were your DC's contributions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just submit a research paper they wrote in high school, it doesn’t need to be published research.

It's going to look bad compared to the publishable paper that was mostly written by a professor with the highschooler helping.

The real answer, OP, is mostly networking/nepotism or paying up to a company like Lumiere, with negligible exceptions. You can also look at past ISEF finalists/winners to see which labs they worked at - those might be more highschool-friendly.