Do girls really have better applications than boys?

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Anonymous wrote:Girls have higher GPAs than boys on average.

A lot more women teacher in high school.

The girls have better ECs too. They mature quicker and are more organized. It’s no surprise that they do better than the boys.

You’re both right. The elementary and middle school years of sit still, be quiet and pay attention with, what, 30 minutes of recess, does not jibe well with male developmental timelines. The boys come into high school with delayed executive functioning skills. So teachers, especially female teachers, often treat boys like broken girls.

People say this all the time, but this is the school system that was designed by men, for boys. Nothing has changed: the length of recess, the age of kids when they start high school. Are we suggesting that boys have had some sort of gene shift in the past 30 years?

This!!! Education today is actually MORE in line with what boys need. Schools were extremely strict decades ago when boys were killing it. When FINALLY given the opportunity for equality, girls surpassed them. It has nothing to do with the curriculum, which is more liberal/open than ever. Boys have always been less mature and slower to develop exec functioning. That is not why they're falling behind. It does no good to keep making excuses.

I agree, I have been saying the same thing, and people ignore the fact that school is more “boy” friendly now than ever before. Wiggles are allowed, walking in class is allowed, moving is allowed. Schools have come a long way. And yet….

I’m going to be honest. It’s the hours of video games and screens. Boys need to be outside playing with others - climbing, exploring, cooperating, helping, making, taking care of others. Right now, with the exception of sports, they live indoors. So many boys are helpless. I see some who do an amazing job. I have been floored by the maturity and agency of some boys. But so many mothers distrust their sons and keep them on a leash. Huge mistake.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Asian boys are performing in line with girls. Asian boys are held to higher standards by their parents, and seem more individually motivated.

Exactly. A lot is expected of them, similar to the expectations on white men 100 years ago. Their culture also stresses the importance of education. At least the girls can marry Asian boys!

+1

South Asian mom of a boy checking in. My DS is far more motivated and responsible at his current age (junior HS) than I was. He's a gem and so are many of his friends!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m going to be honest. It’s the hours of video games and screens.

Yes, 100%. If people want to honestly ask "what has changed in the last 30 years?", video games have absolutely changed the profile of how boys spend their time. And, if we're being honest: porn.

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Anonymous wrote:Girls have higher GPAs than boys on average.

A lot more women teacher in high school.

The girls have better ECs too. They mature quicker and are more organized. It’s no surprise that they do better than the boys.

You’re both right. The elementary and middle school years of sit still, be quiet and pay attention with, what, 30 minutes of recess, does not jibe well with male developmental timelines. The boys come into high school with delayed executive functioning skills. So teachers, especially female teachers, often treat boys like broken girls.

People say this all the time, but this is the school system that was designed by men, for boys. Nothing has changed: the length of recess, the age of kids when they start high school. Are we suggesting that boys have had some sort of gene shift in the past 30 years?

Well read some support here:

https://phys.org/news/2013-01-girls-school.amp

https://dailycollegian.com/2018/04/schools-are-designed-more-for-girls-than-for-boys/

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Many AOs are women who prefer girls and gay men.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m going to be honest. It’s the hours of video games and screens.

Yes, 100%. If people want to honestly ask "what has changed in the last 30 years?", video games have absolutely changed the profile of how boys spend their time. And, if we're being honest: porn.

I think this is massively simplistic. Boys are much more susceptible to biological stress. Even as infants, girls are more resilient to stressors and do better when, for example, a parent dies. Boys, because of their single X chromosome, are more likely to have genetic disorders and many disabilities. I think there’s a lot going on, but I think it begins bery early and isn’t easily solved. We are living in a time of pollution, microplastics, endocrine disruptors, etc. You only have to look at the rise in ADHD in preschool boys (even at outdoorsy crunchy preschools) to see that something is different.

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Anonymous wrote:Many AOs are women who prefer girls and gay men.

Tell me more…

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Anonymous wrote:It’s because there are a lot more female applicants to these schools than their counterparts. To keep a gender balanced environment, their acceptance rate of male is higher than that of female. All lacs brown Yale and a few other ivies.

Opposite in the case of mit Georgia tech cmu scs, uiuc cs, etc. there you see a lot more male applicants

In CA there is a large gender gap between engineering and life sciences. Even in Silicon Valley there are not many girls going for engineering or physics and it is far easier for them to get in. It flips for life sciences, with girls far outnumbering boys so boys have an easier time being admitted.

Business, economics, political science are relatively balanced.

Not true. Still. Ore boys but lots of Bay Area girls do engineering and CS. Especially the children of immigrants.

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Anonymous wrote:At many colleges (Swarthmore, Brown, Wesleyan, Vassar, etc.) male applicants get an advantage over female applicants—affirmative action for boys. One can infer that this is needed to keep the gender ratio balanced. Without it, would females would be admitted at a significantly higher rate than males? Do girls put together better applicants than boys?

This seems like the conclusion that many posters here come to. All the boys I know are extremely high achieving though, so it’s hard for me to wrap my head around.

At many colleges (MIT, Caltech, Georgia Tech, Purdue, etc.) female applicants get an advantage over male applicants—affirmative action for girls. One can infer that this is needed to keep the gender ratio balanced. Without it, would males would be admitted at a significantly higher rate than frmale? Do boys put together better applicants than girls?

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Anonymous wrote:Wah wah wah. My girls …girls on stem , girls on the run, girl bosses, and then we do t like the result of neglecting the boys since 2010…

Who will they marry? I guess each other.

Those boys that have the whole package are going to be in such high demand….the home wrecking, mate poaching, etc is going to go thru the roof.

Why can't they marry down (in terms of income), the way men have been doing throughout history?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m going to be honest. It’s the hours of video games and screens.

Yes, 100%. If people want to honestly ask "what has changed in the last 30 years?", video games have absolutely changed the profile of how boys spend their time. And, if we're being honest: porn.

We are living in a time of pollution, microplastics, endocrine disruptors, etc.

This is the only part of your comment that could possibly explain the recent changes in performance

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Anonymous wrote:I’m going to be honest. It’s the hours of video games and screens.

Yes, 100%. If people want to honestly ask "what has changed in the last 30 years?", video games have absolutely changed the profile of how boys spend their time. And, if we're being honest: porn.

We are living in a time of pollution, microplastics, endocrine disruptors, etc.

This is the only part of your comment that could possibly explain the recent changes in performance

These are gender neutral factors that impact boys and the girls the same.

ADHD also affects boys and girls about the same. For girls, it’s ADD. For boys it’s AHD.

What really happened: Girls used to get little education two three generations ago. At that time, no parents paid any attention on girls academics. Versus nowadays, a large percentage of educated parents emphasize on education for both genders. Parents places the same expectations on the girls, and finally their performance is catching up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to be honest. It’s the hours of video games and screens.

Yes, 100%. If people want to honestly ask "what has changed in the last 30 years?", video games have absolutely changed the profile of how boys spend their time. And, if we're being honest: porn.

We are living in a time of pollution, microplastics, endocrine disruptors, etc.

This is the only part of your comment that could possibly explain the recent changes in performance

These are gender neutral factors that impact boys and the girls the same.

ADHD also affects boys and girls about the same. For girls, it’s ADD. For boys it’s AHD.

What really happened: Girls used to get little education two three generations ago. At that time, no parents paid any attention on girls academics. Versus nowadays, a large percentage of educated parents emphasize on education for both genders. Parents places the same expectations on the girls, and finally their performance is catching up.

It's more than caught up, in many respects. You still haven't explained the gap (unless it's some sexist BS about one gender somehow being inherently smarter than the other)

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Anonymous wrote:Wah wah wah. My girls …girls on stem , girls on the run, girl bosses, and then we do t like the result of neglecting the boys since 2010…

Who will they marry? I guess each other.

Those boys that have the whole package are going to be in such high demand….the home wrecking, mate poaching, etc is going to go thru the roof.

Why can't they marry down (in terms of income), the way men have been doing throughout history?

Women have babies, that’s why. Most women are still looking for earners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to be honest. It’s the hours of video games and screens.

Yes, 100%. If people want to honestly ask "what has changed in the last 30 years?", video games have absolutely changed the profile of how boys spend their time. And, if we're being honest: porn.

We are living in a time of pollution, microplastics, endocrine disruptors, etc.

This is the only part of your comment that could possibly explain the recent changes in performance

These are gender neutral factors that impact boys and the girls the same.

ADHD also affects boys and girls about the same. For girls, it’s ADD. For boys it’s AHD.

What really happened: Girls used to get little education two three generations ago. At that time, no parents paid any attention on girls academics. Versus nowadays, a large percentage of educated parents emphasize on education for both genders. Parents places the same expectations on the girls, and finally their performance is catching up.

It's more than caught up, in many respects. You still haven't explained the gap (unless it's some sexist BS about one gender somehow being inherently smarter than the other)

Have you ever seen the results of IQ tests? Girls are more of a bell curve with a strong and sustained middle while boys have more at both the weak and the high ends. While the averages turn out the same, the distribution is not. This presents challenges in the school setting.