Do girls really have better applications than boys?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Girls have higher GPAs than boys on average.

A lot more women teacher in high school.

The girls have better ECs too. They mature quicker and are more organized. It’s no surprise that they do better than the boys.

This. Especially because the boys tend to spend most of their time on sports. Which isn’t very useful for the application, unless a recruit. While the boy keeps talking about his soccer game and focuses on his own self, the girl sits on multiple community boards, volunteers extensively, runs a club, and may also play a sport.

[Anonymous]

My ds’s high school just did an event celebrating all the kids who got a 4.0 or above. One of the dad’s went through the list and found it was 65% girls, 35% boys. The ratio for freshman boys was even smaller.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls have higher GPAs than boys on average.

A lot more women teacher in high school.

The girls have better ECs too. They mature quicker and are more organized. It’s no surprise that they do better than the boys.

This. Especially because the boys tend to spend most of their time on sports. Which isn’t very useful for the application, unless a recruit. While the boy keeps talking about his soccer game and focuses on his own self, the girl sits on multiple community boards, volunteers extensively, runs a club, and may also play a sport.

This is why my T10-targeting son is letting up on their sport. They will still play for the hs if they get on the team (they’re expected to) but are quitting club after sophomore year and barely participated in club this spring. That was a painful $ hit but also a lesson learned - driven by him! - that when there are conflicts his time is better spent doing academic competitions, internship interviews, extra curricular things, studying for APs, and choosing to focus on what matters. He still is “an athlete” but has no illusions of playing in college, or even starting for HS. We see almost every other boy on both teams continuing to make their sport the #1. No shade, but it’s a choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls have higher GPAs than boys on average.

A lot more women teacher in high school.

The girls have better ECs too. They mature quicker and are more organized. It’s no surprise that they do better than the boys.

This. Especially because the boys tend to spend most of their time on sports. Which isn’t very useful for the application, unless a recruit. While the boy keeps talking about his soccer game and focuses on his own self, the girl sits on multiple community boards, volunteers extensively, runs a club, and may also play a sport.

Exactly. The girls are more nuanced and have interesting and developed areas of academic study. They can go deeper in their essays.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls have higher GPAs than boys on average.

A lot more women teacher in high school.

The girls have better ECs too. They mature quicker and are more organized. It’s no surprise that they do better than the boys.

You’re both right. The elementary and middle school years of sit still, be quiet and pay attention with, what, 30 minutes of recess, does not jibe well with male developmental timelines. The boys come into high school with delayed executive functioning skills. So teachers, especially female teachers, often treat boys like broken girls.

All-male HS/single gender is the way to go.

+1000

+2. I have kids of both genders and want this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls have higher GPAs than boys on average.

A lot more women teacher in high school.

The girls have better ECs too. They mature quicker and are more organized. It’s no surprise that they do better than the boys.

You’re both right. The elementary and middle school years of sit still, be quiet and pay attention with, what, 30 minutes of recess, does not jibe well with male developmental timelines. The boys come into high school with delayed executive functioning skills. So teachers, especially female teachers, often treat boys like broken girls.

While this may be true, teachers were 1000x stricter with school discipline from like 1600 - 2000, but nobody ever said it stifled male development.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls have higher GPAs than boys on average.

A lot more women teacher in high school.

The girls have better ECs too. They mature quicker and are more organized. It’s no surprise that they do better than the boys.

This. Especially because the boys tend to spend most of their time on sports. Which isn’t very useful for the application, unless a recruit. While the boy keeps talking about his soccer game and focuses on his own self, the girl sits on multiple community boards, volunteers extensively, runs a club, and may also play a sport.

This is why my T10-targeting son is letting up on their sport. They will still play for the hs if they get on the team (they’re expected to) but are quitting club after sophomore year and barely participated in club this spring. That was a painful $ hit but also a lesson learned - driven by him! - that when there are conflicts his time is better spent doing academic competitions, internship interviews, extra curricular things, studying for APs, and choosing to focus on what matters. He still is “an athlete” but has no illusions of playing in college, or even starting for HS. We see almost every other boy on both teams continuing to make their sport the #1. No shade, but it’s a choice.

Oh Lord, this makes me cringe…

Playing sports especially a team sport has so many benefits far beyond getting in a good college. It enhances a boy’s social skills tremendously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At many colleges (Swarthmore, Brown, Wesleyan, Vassar, etc.) male applicants get an advantage over female applicants—affirmative action for boys. One can infer that this is needed to keep the gender ratio balanced. Without it, would females would be admitted at a significantly higher rate than males? Do girls put together better applicants than boys?

This seems like the conclusion that many posters here come to. All the boys I know are extremely high achieving though, so it’s hard for me to wrap my head around.

Not if they are applying to STEM programs. A female CS major still has a HUGE advantage over her male co-applicants of getting admitted. So it is major dependent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls have higher GPAs than boys on average.

A lot more women teacher in high school.

The girls have better ECs too. They mature quicker and are more organized. It’s no surprise that they do better than the boys.

This. Especially because the boys tend to spend most of their time on sports. Which isn’t very useful for the application, unless a recruit. While the boy keeps talking about his soccer game and focuses on his own self, the girl sits on multiple community boards, volunteers extensively, runs a club, and may also play a sport.

Get over yourself. Both my sons played soccer- one was president of NHS and an active 4 year member of an academy club and ran a lot of the school drives. He had a part-time summer job too. My other soccer player is a musician, won literary awards and very involved in two school clubs. Straight As all the way through, 5s all APs and 35 ACTs. Their friends were very similar—different sports. Their HS has tons of T10/20/Ivy make admits who were not sports recruits

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My ds’s high school just did an event celebrating all the kids who got a 4.0 or above. One of the dad’s went through the list and found it was 65% girls, 35% boys. The ratio for freshman boys was even smaller.

Make the same list for high test scores and you will see the reverse. TO hurt boys and benefitted girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls have higher GPAs than boys on average.

A lot more women teacher in high school.

The girls have better ECs too. They mature quicker and are more organized. It’s no surprise that they do better than the boys.

You’re both right. The elementary and middle school years of sit still, be quiet and pay attention with, what, 30 minutes of recess, does not jibe well with male developmental timelines. The boys come into high school with delayed executive functioning skills. So teachers, especially female teachers, often treat boys like broken girls.

All-male HS/single gender is the way to go.

+1000

+1 million so glad we do us this for our sons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls have higher GPAs than boys on average.

A lot more women teacher in high school.

The girls have better ECs too. They mature quicker and are more organized. It’s no surprise that they do better than the boys.

You’re both right. The elementary and middle school years of sit still, be quiet and pay attention with, what, 30 minutes of recess, does not jibe well with male developmental timelines. The boys come into high school with delayed executive functioning skills. So teachers, especially female teachers, often treat boys like broken girls.

All-male HS/single gender is the way to go.

+1000

+1 million so glad we do us this for our sons.

yes. Sending out son to an all-boys school was probably the best thing we did for him, especially coming out of Covid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls have higher GPAs than boys on average.

A lot more women teacher in high school.

The girls have better ECs too. They mature quicker and are more organized. It’s no surprise that they do better than the boys.

This. Especially because the boys tend to spend most of their time on sports. Which isn’t very useful for the application, unless a recruit. While the boy keeps talking about his soccer game and focuses on his own self, the girl sits on multiple community boards, volunteers extensively, runs a club, and may also play a sport.

Get over yourself. Both my sons played soccer- one was president of NHS and an active 4 year member of an academy club and ran a lot of the school drives. He had a part-time summer job too. My other soccer player is a musician, won literary awards and very involved in two school clubs. Straight As all the way through, 5s all APs and 35 ACTs. Their friends were very similar—different sports. Their HS has tons of T10/20/Ivy make admits who were not sports recruits

Single gender HS, right? For the wealthy and high SES the boys and girls are indistinguishable. The ratio is identical. It’s why the competition for T10s/Ivies is similar for both sexes but drops off as you go down rankings. Gender balance at the top too. Differences are more bits are stem girls are humanities- and that drives differences/favor for MIT/tech schools and SLACs but it doesn’t mean the other gender is less qualified. Huge misconception. For the top schools both se es have the entire package.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls have higher GPAs than boys on average.

A lot more women teacher in high school.

The girls have better ECs too. They mature quicker and are more organized. It’s no surprise that they do better than the boys.

This. Especially because the boys tend to spend most of their time on sports. Which isn’t very useful for the application, unless a recruit. While the boy keeps talking about his soccer game and focuses on his own self, the girl sits on multiple community boards, volunteers extensively, runs a club, and may also play a sport.

Get over yourself. Both my sons played soccer- one was president of NHS and an active 4 year member of an academy club and ran a lot of the school drives. He had a part-time summer job too. My other soccer player is a musician, won literary awards and very involved in two school clubs. Straight As all the way through, 5s all APs and 35 ACTs. Their friends were very similar—different sports. Their HS has tons of T10/20/Ivy make admits who were not sports recruits

Single gender HS, right? For the wealthy and high SES the boys and girls are indistinguishable. The ratio is identical. It’s why the competition for T10s/Ivies is similar for both sexes but drops off as you go down rankings. Gender balance at the top too. Differences are more bits are stem girls are humanities- and that drives differences/favor for MIT/tech schools and SLACs but it doesn’t mean the other gender is less qualified. Huge misconception. For the top schools both se es have the entire package.

+1
The wealthy boys and girls are both impressive. However, the middle class girls do so much better than the middle class boys. I wonder what this will do to the dating market.

[Anonymous]

If you've truly _never_ met a non-high-achieving boy, you need to get out more. There are tons.

Yes, there are more girl applicants overall and they are on average stronger applicants. This has been discussed a lot:

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/23/opinion/to-all-the-girls-ive-rejected.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Fk8.ZLu1.ft1kBymmbDpI&smid=url-share