Amy Poehler and Tina Fey

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Anonymous wrote:I want to understand what makes them funny!


I think they are funnier if you share their exact politics AND you give yourself and others grace for being an older GenX-er who finds mean/insulting humor hilarious.

I think the people who don’t enjoy them either don’t share their liberal worldview or, if they do, they don’t like the way they still use biting sarcasm and put-down type humor in a manner that was completely normal in the 90s early 2000s but is not at all “acceptable” as humor now.

Curious to know whether OP feels that my theory nailed that explanation of why their humor doesn’t resonate with her….


I liked Amy on "Parks and Recreation." I've never seen any stand-up of hers. Amy is funnier to me than Tina. I find Tina very one-note with being cutting and snark. I've only seen one episode of 30 Rock. It bothered me when she did that stupid Sarah Palin impression about seeing Russia from her house. That makes no sense given the size of Alaska. Plus, Palin never said that. Yet Fey seemed so smug and satisfied with herself. All she is is smug.

I find Kristen Wiig 100 times funnier than either of these two.

no, Fey didn't plagiarize Palin's words, she did with them what comedians do.

interviewer Charles Gibson asked Palin what insight she had gained from living so close to Russia, and she responded: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska."


Well that certainly clarifies the " hilarity."

Surely you’re familiar with sketch comedy? Performers take a kernel of truth and then make it farcical. They exaggerate. The Palin sketch where Fey uttered the line, “And I can see Russia from my house,” was funny because the comment served as the ludicrous counterpoint to Hillary Clinton’s (Amy Poehler’s) studious, policy wonk approach to foreign policy. In real life, Clinton was a former Secretary of State and Palin had no foreign policy training or experience. Palin was out of her depth, so the sketch exaggerated that fact by having her make a ridiculous comment.

Even though that line was memorable for the audience, I actually think Poehler’s Clinton was the more brilliant performance. It was biting humor poking fun at Clinton, and there was also some truth to the zingers aimed at her.

The sketch is worth rewatching.


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Anonymous wrote:I want to understand what makes them funny!


I think they are funnier if you share their exact politics AND you give yourself and others grace for being an older GenX-er who finds mean/insulting humor hilarious.

I think the people who don’t enjoy them either don’t share their liberal worldview or, if they do, they don’t like the way they still use biting sarcasm and put-down type humor in a manner that was completely normal in the 90s early 2000s but is not at all “acceptable” as humor now.

Curious to know whether OP feels that my theory nailed that explanation of why their humor doesn’t resonate with her….


I liked Amy on "Parks and Recreation." I've never seen any stand-up of hers. Amy is funnier to me than Tina. I find Tina very one-note with being cutting and snark. I've only seen one episode of 30 Rock. It bothered me when she did that stupid Sarah Palin impression about seeing Russia from her house. That makes no sense given the size of Alaska. Plus, Palin never said that. Yet Fey seemed so smug and satisfied with herself. All she is is smug.

I find Kristen Wiig 100 times funnier than either of these two.

no, Fey didn't plagiarize Palin's words, she did with them what comedians do.

interviewer Charles Gibson asked Palin what insight she had gained from living so close to Russia, and she responded: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska."


Well that certainly clarifies the " hilarity."

Surely you’re familiar with sketch comedy? Performers take a kernel of truth and then make it farcical. They exaggerate. The Palin sketch where Fey uttered the line, “And I can see Russia from my house,” was funny because the comment served as the ludicrous counterpoint to Hillary Clinton’s (Amy Poehler’s) studious, policy wonk approach to foreign policy. In real life, Clinton was a former Secretary of State and Palin had no foreign policy training or experience. Palin was out of her depth, so the sketch exaggerated that fact by having her make a ridiculous comment.

Even though that line was memorable for the audience, I actually think Poehler’s Clinton was the more brilliant performance. It was biting humor poking fun at Clinton, and there was also some truth to the zingers aimed at her.

The sketch is worth rewatching.



But the sketch was in 2008, so she wasn't a former secretary of state then. She was still a senator.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish I liked their humor. Everyone my age loves them.
I do not see the appeal.


Flash in the pan. They had their day years ago. Probably considered too extreme by today's standards of sensitivity.

Lord have mercy on zoomers who watch uncensored Red Foxx, Lenny Bruce, Richard Prior, or Eddie Murphy from the old days.



Flash in the pan?


It's an industry term. The expression comes from the days of flintlock firearms though. Means quick bright flash that doesn't last long.

Shooting star is another term, but generally reserved to those who burn bright and fast then fade out or die.

Flash in the pan for celebrities tends to mean quick popularity, then struggle to stay relevant. The Simpson's did an episode on that with the "I didn't do it".

I know what it means and just wanted clarification on how Tina and Amy fall into that category
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Anonymous wrote:I wish I liked their humor. Everyone my age loves them.
I do not see the appeal.


Flash in the pan. They had their day years ago. Probably considered too extreme by today's standards of sensitivity.

Lord have mercy on zoomers who watch uncensored Red Foxx, Lenny Bruce, Richard Prior, or Eddie Murphy from the old days.



Flash in the pan?


It's an industry term. The expression comes from the days of flintlock firearms though. Means quick bright flash that doesn't last long.

Shooting star is another term, but generally reserved to those who burn bright and fast then fade out or die.

Flash in the pan for celebrities tends to mean quick popularity, then struggle to stay relevant. The Simpson's did an episode on that with the "I didn't do it".

I know what it means and just wanted clarification on how Tina and Amy fall into that category

They don’t.
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Anonymous wrote:I want to understand what makes them funny!


I think they are funnier if you share their exact politics AND you give yourself and others grace for being an older GenX-er who finds mean/insulting humor hilarious.

I think the people who don’t enjoy them either don’t share their liberal worldview or, if they do, they don’t like the way they still use biting sarcasm and put-down type humor in a manner that was completely normal in the 90s early 2000s but is not at all “acceptable” as humor now.

Curious to know whether OP feels that my theory nailed that explanation of why their humor doesn’t resonate with her….


I liked Amy on "Parks and Recreation." I've never seen any stand-up of hers. Amy is funnier to me than Tina. I find Tina very one-note with being cutting and snark. I've only seen one episode of 30 Rock. It bothered me when she did that stupid Sarah Palin impression about seeing Russia from her house. That makes no sense given the size of Alaska. Plus, Palin never said that. Yet Fey seemed so smug and satisfied with herself. All she is is smug.

I find Kristen Wiig 100 times funnier than either of these two.

no, Fey didn't plagiarize Palin's words, she did with them what comedians do.

interviewer Charles Gibson asked Palin what insight she had gained from living so close to Russia, and she responded: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska."


Well that certainly clarifies the " hilarity."

Surely you’re familiar with sketch comedy? Performers take a kernel of truth and then make it farcical. They exaggerate. The Palin sketch where Fey uttered the line, “And I can see Russia from my house,” was funny because the comment served as the ludicrous counterpoint to Hillary Clinton’s (Amy Poehler’s) studious, policy wonk approach to foreign policy. In real life, Clinton was a former Secretary of State and Palin had no foreign policy training or experience. Palin was out of her depth, so the sketch exaggerated that fact by having her make a ridiculous comment.

Even though that line was memorable for the audience, I actually think Poehler’s Clinton was the more brilliant performance. It was biting humor poking fun at Clinton, and there was also some truth to the zingers aimed at her.

The sketch is worth rewatching.



But the sketch was in 2008, so she wasn't a former secretary of state then. She was still a senator.

True enough, but she was a Senator and much better prepared for the presidency.
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Tina Fey and Amy Poehler are very Gen X. Younger people are super sensitive. I can see how young people don't click with them. People under the age of 30 don't have a sense of humor these days. And they better get off my lawn.
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Anonymous wrote:Amy Poehler's mega-pregnant Sarah Palin rap with the moose shooting remains one of the best moments on SNL ever.

Yes!


Yes! For many years, before I stopped laughing at political comedy, I would watch that when I was in a bad mood. Always made me feel better.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I want to understand what makes them funny!


I think they are funnier if you share their exact politics AND you give yourself and others grace for being an older GenX-er who finds mean/insulting humor hilarious.

I think the people who don’t enjoy them either don’t share their liberal worldview or, if they do, they don’t like the way they still use biting sarcasm and put-down type humor in a manner that was completely normal in the 90s early 2000s but is not at all “acceptable” as humor now.

Curious to know whether OP feels that my theory nailed that explanation of why their humor doesn’t resonate with her….


I liked Amy on "Parks and Recreation." I've never seen any stand-up of hers. Amy is funnier to me than Tina. I find Tina very one-note with being cutting and snark. I've only seen one episode of 30 Rock. It bothered me when she did that stupid Sarah Palin impression about seeing Russia from her house. That makes no sense given the size of Alaska. Plus, Palin never said that. Yet Fey seemed so smug and satisfied with herself. All she is is smug.

I find Kristen Wiig 100 times funnier than either of these two.

no, Fey didn't plagiarize Palin's words, she did with them what comedians do.

interviewer Charles Gibson asked Palin what insight she had gained from living so close to Russia, and she responded: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska."


Well that certainly clarifies the " hilarity."

You complained “Sarah didn’t even say that!” And when shown the exact paraphrasing you walk it back with “it’s not funny.”
That’s what makes you MAGA.


Exactly she did not say that. She never said she could see Russia from her house. I am sorry you need to rewrite history to make Tina Fey's 20 year old impression seem funny. Peddling Tina Fey as a great comic genius is confusing to me. Her whole persona was the brainy cool girl who is supposed to be attractive and irresistible to men. It is a tired trope with every female comic who does it, not just Fey.

And again, Kristen Wiig was much funnier as an actor and sketch comedian and she can actually act like something other than herself. She could play tons of different characters. Tina Fey has one mode, cynical brainy cool gitl.

This reminds me of when people used to laugh at Steve Martin clips and I always thought it was goofy and obvious. Tina Fey is in the obvious and not funny category to me.
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I never get tired of that second wife SNL skit.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I want to understand what makes them funny!


I think they are funnier if you share their exact politics AND you give yourself and others grace for being an older GenX-er who finds mean/insulting humor hilarious.

I think the people who don’t enjoy them either don’t share their liberal worldview or, if they do, they don’t like the way they still use biting sarcasm and put-down type humor in a manner that was completely normal in the 90s early 2000s but is not at all “acceptable” as humor now.

Curious to know whether OP feels that my theory nailed that explanation of why their humor doesn’t resonate with her….


I liked Amy on "Parks and Recreation." I've never seen any stand-up of hers. Amy is funnier to me than Tina. I find Tina very one-note with being cutting and snark. I've only seen one episode of 30 Rock. It bothered me when she did that stupid Sarah Palin impression about seeing Russia from her house. That makes no sense given the size of Alaska. Plus, Palin never said that. Yet Fey seemed so smug and satisfied with herself. All she is is smug.

I find Kristen Wiig 100 times funnier than either of these two.

no, Fey didn't plagiarize Palin's words, she did with them what comedians do.

interviewer Charles Gibson asked Palin what insight she had gained from living so close to Russia, and she responded: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska."


Well that certainly clarifies the " hilarity."

You complained “Sarah didn’t even say that!” And when shown the exact paraphrasing you walk it back with “it’s not funny.”
That’s what makes you MAGA.


Exactly she did not say that. She never said she could see Russia from her house. I am sorry you need to rewrite history to make Tina Fey's 20 year old impression seem funny. Peddling Tina Fey as a great comic genius is confusing to me. Her whole persona was the brainy cool girl who is supposed to be attractive and irresistible to men. It is a tired trope with every female comic who does it, not just Fey.

And again, Kristen Wiig was much funnier as an actor and sketch comedian and she can actually act like something other than herself. She could play tons of different characters. Tina Fey has one mode, cynical brainy cool gitl.

This reminds me of when people used to laugh at Steve Martin clips and I always thought it was goofy and obvious. Tina Fey is in the obvious and not funny category to me.

Oh, you mean you expect a comedy show to only directly quote people or it's not funny? Breaking news, comedian doesn't plagiarize, but paraphrases Palin when she said: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska."

But you're confused?

You're wrong on so many levels.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I want to understand what makes them funny!


I think they are funnier if you share their exact politics AND you give yourself and others grace for being an older GenX-er who finds mean/insulting humor hilarious.

I think the people who don’t enjoy them either don’t share their liberal worldview or, if they do, they don’t like the way they still use biting sarcasm and put-down type humor in a manner that was completely normal in the 90s early 2000s but is not at all “acceptable” as humor now.

Curious to know whether OP feels that my theory nailed that explanation of why their humor doesn’t resonate with her….


I liked Amy on "Parks and Recreation." I've never seen any stand-up of hers. Amy is funnier to me than Tina. I find Tina very one-note with being cutting and snark. I've only seen one episode of 30 Rock. It bothered me when she did that stupid Sarah Palin impression about seeing Russia from her house. That makes no sense given the size of Alaska. Plus, Palin never said that. Yet Fey seemed so smug and satisfied with herself. All she is is smug.

I find Kristen Wiig 100 times funnier than either of these two.

no, Fey didn't plagiarize Palin's words, she did with them what comedians do.

interviewer Charles Gibson asked Palin what insight she had gained from living so close to Russia, and she responded: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska."


Well that certainly clarifies the " hilarity."

You complained “Sarah didn’t even say that!” And when shown the exact paraphrasing you walk it back with “it’s not funny.”
That’s what makes you MAGA.


Exactly she did not say that. She never said she could see Russia from her house. I am sorry you need to rewrite history to make Tina Fey's 20 year old impression seem funny. Peddling Tina Fey as a great comic genius is confusing to me. Her whole persona was the brainy cool girl who is supposed to be attractive and irresistible to men. It is a tired trope with every female comic who does it, not just Fey.

And again, Kristen Wiig was much funnier as an actor and sketch comedian and she can actually act like something other than herself. She could play tons of different characters. Tina Fey has one mode, cynical brainy cool gitl.

This reminds me of when people used to laugh at Steve Martin clips and I always thought it was goofy and obvious. Tina Fey is in the obvious and not funny category to me.

Oh, you mean you expect a comedy show to only directly quote people or it's not funny? Breaking news, comedian doesn't plagiarize, but paraphrases Palin when she said: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska."

But you're confused?

You're wrong on so many levels.


To be more clear even the paraphrasing is not funny to me. The impression was not funny to me and I hate Sarah Palin. The impression was smug and obvious. The Sarah Palin hype gave Fey a huge head snd made her think she is a comic genius. She is like every other mildly witty woman in DC.
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Mayne the fact that she's a slightly above average mildly witty comedian explains why DC people love her so much. It fits in with the smart-ass tone of DC
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Tina Fey totally gives off mean girl vibes. Her humor is a lot of put downs and “I’m better than you” stuff.

I didn’t like 30 Rock. I can’t stand Tracy Morgan, Alec Baldwin or her bestie Jimmy Fallon. Ugh.

I really liked Wine Country and Sisters and they always do great as awards show presenters or hosts.

Kristen Wiig is much funnier than both of them.
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Anonymous wrote:I think the movies they’ve been in together are terrible, but they were lightning in a bottle on SNL together.



OMG! I don't recall seeing this one before. Comic gold!
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Anonymous wrote:I want to understand what makes them funny!


I think they are funnier if you share their exact politics AND you give yourself and others grace for being an older GenX-er who finds mean/insulting humor hilarious.

I think the people who don’t enjoy them either don’t share their liberal worldview or, if they do, they don’t like the way they still use biting sarcasm and put-down type humor in a manner that was completely normal in the 90s early 2000s but is not at all “acceptable” as humor now.

Curious to know whether OP feels that my theory nailed that explanation of why their humor doesn’t resonate with her….


I liked Amy on "Parks and Recreation." I've never seen any stand-up of hers. Amy is funnier to me than Tina. I find Tina very one-note with being cutting and snark. I've only seen one episode of 30 Rock. It bothered me when she did that stupid Sarah Palin impression about seeing Russia from her house. That makes no sense given the size of Alaska. Plus, Palin never said that. Yet Fey seemed so smug and satisfied with herself. All she is is smug.

I find Kristen Wiig 100 times funnier than either of these two.

no, Fey didn't plagiarize Palin's words, she did with them what comedians do.

interviewer Charles Gibson asked Palin what insight she had gained from living so close to Russia, and she responded: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska."


Well that certainly clarifies the " hilarity."

You complained “Sarah didn’t even say that!” And when shown the exact paraphrasing you walk it back with “it’s not funny.”
That’s what makes you MAGA.


Exactly she did not say that. She never said she could see Russia from her house. I am sorry you need to rewrite history to make Tina Fey's 20 year old impression seem funny. Peddling Tina Fey as a great comic genius is confusing to me. Her whole persona was the brainy cool girl who is supposed to be attractive and irresistible to men. It is a tired trope with every female comic who does it, not just Fey.

And again, Kristen Wiig was much funnier as an actor and sketch comedian and she can actually act like something other than herself. She could play tons of different characters. Tina Fey has one mode, cynical brainy cool gitl.

This reminds me of when people used to laugh at Steve Martin clips and I always thought it was goofy and obvious. Tina Fey is in the obvious and not funny category to me.


I disagree completely about Kristen Wiig. She is the weakest comedian. The majority of her characters are based on people with disabilities. I think she's crap and is only funny making fun of people who are different. It's low base humor that piles on people who are already bullied by everyone else.
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