$3,500 iPhones?

Anonymous
Trump is trying to deport all the Haitians who came in via the CBP app. We have to fight this. They were NOT eating dogs.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe $3500 iPhones are good - it will drive competition and make people think before upgrading to a new phone every year which is a disaster for the environment. We love our cheap stuff but has anyone really sat down and thought about whether it actually is good or bad in the long run?


Tariffs or no, the bolded has been an issue for me for a long time. Being environmentally conscious means nothing if we are dumping our tech devices so frequently. We buy the best products we can afford at the time and hold on to them for a long time. My car is old (20+ years), but has 120k miles, good mileage for a gas powered vehicle (32 mpg on highway, 27mpg locally), and still passes emissions and safety inspections with flying colors. Debatable whether recycling it and other cars every five years is better than holding onto this vehicle. Similar on electronic devices.

Not happy about tariffs but if it gets people to be more environmentally responsible, they will have some positive effect.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe $3500 iPhones are good - it will drive competition and make people think before upgrading to a new phone every year which is a disaster for the environment. We love our cheap stuff but has anyone really sat down and thought about whether it actually is good or bad in the long run?


Tariffs or no, the bolded has been an issue for me for a long time. Being environmentally conscious means nothing if we are dumping our tech devices so frequently. We buy the best products we can afford at the time and hold on to them for a long time. My car is old (20+ years), but has 120k miles, good mileage for a gas powered vehicle (32 mpg on highway, 27mpg locally), and still passes emissions and safety inspections with flying colors. Debatable whether recycling it and other cars every five years is better than holding onto this vehicle. Similar on electronic devices.

Not happy about tariffs but if it gets people to be more environmentally responsible, they will have some positive effect.


Driving 20 year old car is not good for the environment.
Anonymous
Reminds me of what my sister a long-time mac user and liberal said when I sent her the article about the riots in the Foxconn factory. "I'm glad I just go my new Mac, so I don't have to worry about disruptions."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhengzhou_Foxconn_protests

Couldn't leave the factory.

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Anonymous wrote:It is long past time to do away with 529’s and students loans. You do not need a college degree to work in a factory.


Frankly, a lot of jobs including high tech where I work, do not need as many degreed professionals either. Even some jobs in health and other industries. We do need high school diplomas to be symbolic of people achieving certain standards. Some kids have been robbed of education because they’ve been promoted without attaining reading and math standards.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe $3500 iPhones are good - it will drive competition and make people think before upgrading to a new phone every year which is a disaster for the environment. We love our cheap stuff but has anyone really sat down and thought about whether it actually is good or bad in the long run?


Tariffs or no, the bolded has been an issue for me for a long time. Being environmentally conscious means nothing if we are dumping our tech devices so frequently. We buy the best products we can afford at the time and hold on to them for a long time. My car is old (20+ years), but has 120k miles, good mileage for a gas powered vehicle (32 mpg on highway, 27mpg locally), and still passes emissions and safety inspections with flying colors. Debatable whether recycling it and other cars every five years is better than holding onto this vehicle. Similar on electronic devices.

Not happy about tariffs but if it gets people to be more environmentally responsible, they will have some positive effect.


Driving 20 year old car is not good for the environment.


But putting a new car every four to five years into the dump is??? Even recycling the parts costs energy (hauling the parts, melting them down, etc.).
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Anonymous wrote:I love that we now have a president who looks out for us strategically and tactically. He got illegal crossing down to like 1% of what it was under Biden, and no new democrat legislation was forced down our throats. He just reinstated the policies previously in place and a the number of illegal crossings dropped like a stone.

He has managed to isolate China and most other countries around the world know it. A game was played simply to go thru the motions of isolating them.

DOGE is identifying fraud, waste and abuse of the tax payer everyday. Billions or maybe even a trillion/year will be saved long term. Running things with common sense.

Unlike the last administration, whose sole action to every problem was to drop money from the sky on every problem , or implement "social justice" to anger the population through crazy policies, this administration governs well.

Unlike democrats, they don't just campaign well. They actually run things well. This is what the democrat party was before the elites took over.


America chose well. Have a splendid day!


I mean this kindly, I wanna have whatever it is you are smoking. It's clearly one helluva drug. I wish I could be this much checked out from reality. Goals!



What were you smoking when you told me the ONLY way to fix strangers flooding the southern border was through new legislation and that until then, the influx could not be fixed?




Trump found a brand new way by tanking the economy.



You lied to us. Just like you did about Biden's cognitive health.

No new legislation on immigration was needed. As we kept telling you, just enforce the immigration law in place.

But no, you kept it going to shove your ideology of multiculturalism down our throats with unchecked immigration and all the intended consequences thereof.

You democrats just can't be trusted anymore. You've proven yourselves to be untrustworthy elitist globalists.


Trump lies to us every single day. Trump is the one who can't be trusted. That's why the markets are currently tanking. He has zero credibility left on the global stage.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe $3500 iPhones are good - it will drive competition and make people think before upgrading to a new phone every year which is a disaster for the environment. We love our cheap stuff but has anyone really sat down and thought about whether it actually is good or bad in the long run?


Tariffs or no, the bolded has been an issue for me for a long time. Being environmentally conscious means nothing if we are dumping our tech devices so frequently. We buy the best products we can afford at the time and hold on to them for a long time. My car is old (20+ years), but has 120k miles, good mileage for a gas powered vehicle (32 mpg on highway, 27mpg locally), and still passes emissions and safety inspections with flying colors. Debatable whether recycling it and other cars every five years is better than holding onto this vehicle. Similar on electronic devices.

Not happy about tariffs but if it gets people to be more environmentally responsible, they will have some positive effect.


Driving 20 year old car is not good for the environment.


But putting a new car every four to five years into the dump is??? Even recycling the parts costs energy (hauling the parts, melting them down, etc.).


Don’t forget the environmental cost of manufacturing and recycling 4 new cars.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Migrants often can’t afford iPhones. But we can.


When I go home to inner city Detroit, social programs sometimes set up stations to get people phones who otherwise cannot afford them. At our Title I FCPS, a lot of my kids friends with lower incomes had iPhones when my kids had no devices at all. Those devices are sometimes a priority of other things. It may not make sense to people who always had a stable home environment, but trust me this prioritization often happens. They can be used for entertainment and educational apps, keeping track of where kids are, communication, etc. This can mean more than having a couch. Plus, those devices are easily portable if you are moving from place to place.

The cost will be on the social services that help these families.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe $3500 iPhones are good - it will drive competition and make people think before upgrading to a new phone every year which is a disaster for the environment. We love our cheap stuff but has anyone really sat down and thought about whether it actually is good or bad in the long run?


Tariffs or no, the bolded has been an issue for me for a long time. Being environmentally conscious means nothing if we are dumping our tech devices so frequently. We buy the best products we can afford at the time and hold on to them for a long time. My car is old (20+ years), but has 120k miles, good mileage for a gas powered vehicle (32 mpg on highway, 27mpg locally), and still passes emissions and safety inspections with flying colors. Debatable whether recycling it and other cars every five years is better than holding onto this vehicle. Similar on electronic devices.

Not happy about tariffs but if it gets people to be more environmentally responsible, they will have some positive effect.


Driving 20 year old car is not good for the environment.


But putting a new car every four to five years into the dump is??? Even recycling the parts costs energy (hauling the parts, melting them down, etc.).


Don’t forget the environmental cost of manufacturing and recycling 4 new cars.


New car are better for the environment because old cars leak fluids and shed plastics and metal. Plus the older cars pollute more vs newer cars.
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In the US most people do not buy new phones. The cost of the phone is added to the monthly bill.

You could increase the cost of a cell to $10k and the majority of iPhone users would have no clue how much it cost.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe $3500 iPhones are good - it will drive competition and make people think before upgrading to a new phone every year which is a disaster for the environment. We love our cheap stuff but has anyone really sat down and thought about whether it actually is good or bad in the long run?


Tariffs or no, the bolded has been an issue for me for a long time. Being environmentally conscious means nothing if we are dumping our tech devices so frequently. We buy the best products we can afford at the time and hold on to them for a long time. My car is old (20+ years), but has 120k miles, good mileage for a gas powered vehicle (32 mpg on highway, 27mpg locally), and still passes emissions and safety inspections with flying colors. Debatable whether recycling it and other cars every five years is better than holding onto this vehicle. Similar on electronic devices.

Not happy about tariffs but if it gets people to be more environmentally responsible, they will have some positive effect.


Driving 20 year old car is not good for the environment.


But putting a new car every four to five years into the dump is??? Even recycling the parts costs energy (hauling the parts, melting them down, etc.).


Don’t forget the environmental cost of manufacturing and recycling 4 new cars.


New car are better for the environment because old cars leak fluids and shed plastics and metal. Plus the older cars pollute more vs newer cars.
. This is idiotic. Driving N old car is wildly better for the environment than building a new car.
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Anonymous wrote:In the US most people do not buy new phones. The cost of the phone is added to the monthly bill.

You could increase the cost of a cell to $10k and the majority of iPhone users would have no clue how much it cost.


You mean "rich iPhone users would not clue how much it costs."

The rest of us will know.

We purchased new phones after the election.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Americans have had a good life for a long time, they had no idea how good it was because majority don’t travel and can’t compare. They are about to find out soon.


Can you imagine if just one day in his life, Trump woke up and tried to make things better for Americans instead of looking for brand new ways to make everything so much worse.
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Anonymous wrote:It is long past time to do away with 529’s and students loans. You do not need a college degree to work in a factory.


Frankly, a lot of jobs including high tech where I work, do not need as many degreed professionals either. Even some jobs in health and other industries. We do need high school diplomas to be symbolic of people achieving certain standards. Some kids have been robbed of education because they’ve been promoted without attaining reading and math standards.


Maybe the adults in red states should prioritize their schools and kids education. Lord knows blues states throw enough money at them.

2025: West Virginia, Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Nevada, Kentucky, Alabama, New Mexico, Texas, and Indiana rank among the least educated states in the U.S. These states struggle with lower educational attainment, lower graduation rates, fewer students in top universities, and lower scores on standardized tests.
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